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DavidinBMNY : 8/20/2017 7:09 pm
I haven't seen a lot of preseason action, but so far it looks like the Jets and Jags might royally screw the pooch this year.

I remember a few seasons ago, watching our team, the year JPP blew up his hand, you knew that team was going to be bad, prior to the accident. The roster was just not competitive.

Which teams have you been able to see in pre-season that have you thinking this team is contending for the #1 2018 NFL draft pick?
Teams I think will be really bad  
robbieballs2003 : 8/20/2017 7:33 pm : link
Jets
Indy
Baltimore
SF

The Jags have a ton of talent but having problems at the QB position could really derail their season.

The Rams look like they are headed in the right direction.

The Bills could go either way.

Cleveland could be another year away from putting it together.
I can't put too much in the preseason  
djm : 8/20/2017 7:37 pm : link
Even in summer of 2015 when everyone was killing the Giants saying they were dreadful they still competed all season long. They didn't get blown out. They could have won 10 games that year even though they most definitely deserved to be 6-10.

Teams with no qb in place need a lot of things to go right in order to win 10 games. The jets will blow even if they play above expectations.
RE: I can't put too much in the preseason  
Boy Cord : 8/20/2017 7:47 pm : link
In comment 13566303 djm said:
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Even in summer of 2015 when everyone was killing the Giants saying they were dreadful they still competed all season long. They didn't get blown out. They could have won 10 games that year even though they most definitely deserved to be 6-10.

Teams with no qb in place need a lot of things to go right in order to win 10 games. The jets will blow even if they play above expectations.


Teams with a QB need a lot of things to go right to win ten games.
Live in Bills land  
family progtitioner : 8/20/2017 8:46 pm : link
With the exception of McCoy, that team has very little talent. They'll play hard because I think the coach is a good pick, but they're going to struggle to win 6. They're prepping for draft day 2018.
I was expecting the Jets to get walloped  
gogiants : 8/20/2017 8:57 pm : link
but I thought at least defensively they looked pretty good against the Titans. The Titans have a good team and are picked by many to win their division. The Jets held them to 3 points and came away with the win
The Colts without Luck  
BSIMatt : 8/20/2017 9:05 pm : link
Looked like trash.
The Jets have virtuallly no offense  
moespree : 8/20/2017 9:13 pm : link
They will be boring as hell for their fanbase this season.
with some decent QB play  
jnoble : 8/21/2017 12:43 am : link
I'm hoping maybe this is the year that Cleveland finally gets a playoff spot. It's not like they havent stocked up on talent in the draft in recent years
Jets and Bills  
grizz299 : 8/21/2017 4:52 am : link
Amazing (and maybe no un-corrolatted) the two worse teams are in the same division with the best teams.
Four easy wins for NE, you can't help but wonder if that's not significant in making NE the team they are.
Imagine our schedule for the past decade if we had those two instead of Dallas and Philly,
bet it would mean about four more playoff experiences and once you're in the playoffs,,,,,,,,,,!!!
Jags will struggle.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/21/2017 7:23 am : link
Bortles sucks.
Bills and Jets are a given  
Gman11 : 8/21/2017 7:41 am : link
Also, the Bears and Chargers. San Diego might be relieved that the Chargers left.
You really..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/21/2017 7:53 am : link
can't tell in preseason because some coaches are trying out certain things that will be just a small part of the plan going forward. Keep in mind that this past week might have been the first time some starters even played.

I mean a team like the Panthers has looked putrid, but Cam hasn't suited up and McCaffery had a really nice looking TD run when they were losing by 2 TD's.
It's impossible to say  
Ron Johnson 30 : 8/21/2017 8:12 am : link
Every year teams surprise and others fizzle
RE: The Jets have virtuallly no offense  
Section331 : 8/21/2017 9:18 am : link
In comment 13566353 moespree said:
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They will be boring as hell for their fanbase this season.


While this is likely true, their likely starting QB has played one series, and led them to a TD. Hackenburg is fucking brutal, a total waste of a 2nd round pick (and some blame Reese for trading up for Nassib!). If I'm NYJ, I cut bait on Hack, and carry McCown and Petty, who hasn't looked terrible. I doubt they do it, but they should.
RE: RE: I can't put too much in the preseason  
djm : 8/21/2017 11:29 am : link
In comment 13566311 Boy Cord said:
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In comment 13566303 djm said:


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Even in summer of 2015 when everyone was killing the Giants saying they were dreadful they still competed all season long. They didn't get blown out. They could have won 10 games that year even though they most definitely deserved to be 6-10.

Teams with no qb in place need a lot of things to go right in order to win 10 games. The jets will blow even if they play above expectations.



Teams with a QB need a lot of things to go right to win ten games.


Indeed. But just think back to teams like the 97 Giants. They all but set records for turnover differential. Didn't suffer major injuries and won a boat load of close games all year long. Still only won 10 games and promptly lost their only playoff game.

At least when the QB is in place the potential is there to be great.
Yes...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 8/21/2017 11:33 am : link
this is true:

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Indeed. But just think back to teams like the 97 Giants. They all but set records for turnover differential. Didn't suffer major injuries and won a boat load of close games all year long. Still only won 10 games and promptly lost their only playoff game.


It is also what can retard a team's development because it fools the coach into thinking the QB is in place. We were smart enough to move on from Kannell, but was Dak a beneficiary of the OL and the running game, or is he a legit player? Nick Foles couldn't stand up to the test of time, nor could guys like Rob Johnson, Matt Cassel or Brock Osweiler after initial success.
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