In 12 team ppr with people who know what they are doing. We start 2wr 2rb 1 flex. I have 4th pick which is a no brained OBJ or Brown. In rd 2 and 3 I want to go Rb/Rb. I am hoping Gurley falls but looks li,e my choice will be between Miller, MCaffrey maybe Fournette. I'm leaning Miller.
In rd 3 I want to take cooks who looks like the starter and best rookie this year or should I take Lynch who looked good.
Rbs go fast in top 3-4 rounds. I will have an elite Rb and need two solid rbs.
As for your 3rd round pick, again im not sure who you expect to be there, but out of what you listed id def go cook over lynch. Lynch is going to be a pretty big bust in my opition. Im just worried about his year off, his age, the fact that he was crappy in 2015, and I just dont think OAK is going to want to wear him down too much. Plus he isnt a good PPR RB.
It's between Powell and T. Coleman for me, for a 9th or 10th pick, At my spot it will be either McCoy, Evans, Green, or Freeman available. I am incredibly tempted to just grab Freeman and have the handcuff from the get go, and grab WR's later, what are your thoughts?
2nd Round I could grab someone like D.Thomas, unless another top RB falls, and in round three go with one of Allen, Rodgers, Cook, Mixon.
We get 6pts per passing TD, return yards are factored in as well. format is 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, Flex, TE, K, ST/D. (Really wish people would roll the K into the D/ST with 14 teams, but people are difficult)
I'd look at who is available and make up my mind.
At 21 and 28
you could pick from guys like:
Cooks
Gronk
Baldwin
Gurley
Hopkins
Fournette
Crowell
L. Miller
and maybe even Ajayi or Cooper
If Cooper or Cooks is there, and you come away with Beckham, Cooper/Cooks and Crowell, I'd say that's a solid 1st three rounds. I'd say Gurley or Miller over Crowell, but I had them both last year, pretty disappointing (relative to draft position), but realistically both could be really good picks there.
Martin. He is the starter after his suspension. Hunt at best will split with Ware.
It's between Powell and T. Coleman for me, for a 9th or 10th pick, At my spot it will be either McCoy, Evans, Green, or Freeman available. I am incredibly tempted to just grab Freeman and have the handcuff from the get go, and grab WR's later, what are your thoughts?
2nd Round I could grab someone like D.Thomas, unless another top RB falls, and in round three go with one of Allen, Rodgers, Cook, Mixon.
We get 6pts per passing TD, return yards are factored in as well. format is 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, Flex, TE, K, ST/D. (Really wish people would roll the K into the D/ST with 14 teams, but people are difficult)
Powell gets a lot of targets in a ppr. A lot. Coleman is second to Freeman.
::Adds to Jon's scouting report::
kmed speaks the truth, I usually start tanking for a better draft pick around week 2.
My first draft is this Saturday, any chance of getting the Kmed buddy/Eagles fan spreadsheet?
It's a keeper league so I don't need it too much, but I like his aggregates and the sub worksheets like 3rd year WR's and SOS for the playoffs (often overlooked).
It's between Powell and T. Coleman for me, for a 9th or 10th pick, At my spot it will be either McCoy, Evans, Green, or Freeman available. I am incredibly tempted to just grab Freeman and have the handcuff from the get go, and grab WR's later, what are your thoughts?
2nd Round I could grab someone like D.Thomas, unless another top RB falls, and in round three go with one of Allen, Rodgers, Cook, Mixon.
We get 6pts per passing TD, return yards are factored in as well. format is 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, Flex, TE, K, ST/D. (Really wish people would roll the K into the D/ST with 14 teams, but people are difficult)
You want good players in great offenses. I would keep Coleman and go for Freeman, who I think is a strong out-perform candidate for his draft position.
In terms of Coleman as a backup, he scored double digit fantasy points 7 times last season (8 if you count week 17). Powell did 4 times.
Plus, just go with the bigger talent. Tevin Coleman is much more talented than Bilal Powell. In the one year in which Powell received a fairly significant workload (a modest 176 carries in 2013), he had a 4.0 ypc and 1 rushing TD. Powell is not some unknown commodity. He has some juice in flashes, he will get some catches, but he's going into his 7th season and heretofore has not been much of a fantasy factor outside of a week or two here and there. I think it's not too controversial to say that Powell isn't going to carry the load as a #1 back and tote the ball 230 times or more.
Terrible offense, not the best talent, and oh by the way, did I miss the part where Matt Forte retired or something? Since when is Bilal Powell elevated to the clear #1 RB in that offense? I realize Forte has a hamstring, but this is the time of year where guys, especially veterans, are treated overly cautious when dealing with what may be minor injury issues. When it's all said in done, Coleman will have very close to, and perhaps more, touches than Powell, and I expect even if Freeman remains healthy, Coleman will be the more valuable fantasy commodity as he was last season.
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They will be fighting for last place. Go in with a plan and execute.
kmed speaks the truth, I usually start tanking for a better draft pick around week 2.
My first draft is this Saturday, any chance of getting the Kmed buddy/Eagles fan spreadsheet?
It's a keeper league so I don't need it too much, but I like his aggregates and the sub worksheets like 3rd year WR's and SOS for the playoffs (often overlooked).
I got you. It's an early version, so you might want to wait until the next one comes out. Why don't we wait and then if we get close to your drafts before the next one comes out, ill send it over. Cool?
I'll bet you he won't.
I can wait, thanks, always appreciate the help.
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Powell will have more value than Coleman in PPR leagues.
I'll bet you he won't.
The only way Coleman finishes with more fantasy points than Powell in PPR leagues is if Freeman misses time.
I'd be very comfortable making that bet.
End of week is good, my first draft is a week from tomorrow. Thanks, buddy!
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Powell will have more value than Coleman in PPR leagues.
I'll bet you he won't.
The only way Coleman finishes with more fantasy points than Powell in PPR leagues is if Freeman misses time.
I'd be very comfortable making that bet.
They were both #2's last year, they are both #2's this year. Powell scored more when Forte was hurt.
Still, on a fantasy points per game basis, even in PPR, and even though Coleman had zero starts, he outperformed Powell on a FPPG basis, 14.7 versus 12.4 for Powell (full point PPR). To be fair, on a total points PPR basis (again full point PPR, Powell outscored Coleman 199 to 191.1 (all 16 games reflected). However, Powell played all 16 games, with 4 starts. Coleman played 13 games with zero starts.
Coleman easily would've outscored him had he also played 16 games, but even if we were to assume he will miss a few games as he did last year, the argument would be Coleman + whatever replacement you would play in his stead vs Powell, and I'd still take Coleman in that case.
The projections on Powell are extremely optimistic. They are basically projecting him to all of a sudden have his best season, or at least to match his best season of 2013. I don't see a compelling reason that he will do that. Further, Forte is getting ignored here. Finally, the Jets are going to stink this year, and their offense is going to be terrible, they have no wideouts that scare anybody, and I want no part of that offense.
Yup, at least you will know you have a stud RB play every week unless the unthinkable happens and you lose both of them. Even if that were to happen, you know that somebody like Terron Ward or Brian Hill will be available on waivers.
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Powell will have more value than Coleman in PPR leagues.
I'll bet you he won't.
The only way Coleman finishes with more fantasy points than Powell in PPR leagues is if Freeman misses time.
I'd be very comfortable making that bet.
They were both #2's last year, they are both #2's this year. Powell scored more when Forte was hurt.
Still, on a fantasy points per game basis, even in PPR, and even though Coleman had zero starts, he outperformed Powell on a FPPG basis, 14.7 versus 12.4 for Powell (full point PPR). To be fair, on a total points PPR basis (again full point PPR, Powell outscored Coleman 199 to 191.1 (all 16 games reflected). However, Powell played all 16 games, with 4 starts. Coleman played 13 games with zero starts.
Coleman easily would've outscored him had he also played 16 games, but even if we were to assume he will miss a few games as he did last year, the argument would be Coleman + whatever replacement you would play in his stead vs Powell, and I'd still take Coleman in that case.
The projections on Powell are extremely optimistic. They are basically projecting him to all of a sudden have his best season, or at least to match his best season of 2013. I don't see a compelling reason that he will do that. Further, Forte is getting ignored here. Finally, the Jets are going to stink this year, and their offense is going to be terrible, they have no wideouts that scare anybody, and I want no part of that offense.
You're ignoring two things -
One is that Powell was not utilized the same way all year. He was used much, much more later in the year when Forte was hurt and ran out of gas.
Two - Matt Forte should generally be ignored because he's the lesser talent of the two backs at this point in time and Powell is going to get more touches.
Powell still caught 11 passes against MIA in a game where Forte played.
I think Matt Forte is shot and am not touching him this year unless he falls way, way down into late rounds.
Devonta Freeman is exponentially better than Matt Forte right now and is going to get plenty of work in that offense. Coleman is unlikely to out-touch Freeman in games where both players are healthy.
ATL also does not utilize Coleman in the pass game the way the Jets are going to use Powell. Powell will be a PPR gold mine this year because they won't be able to throw the ball down the field and their WR's suck. Expect plenty of dumpoffs from inexperienced QB's who won't have time for deeper/longer-developing routes.
But I'll concede all those points to you and I'll still take Coleman, especially if I have Freeman also.
Coleman won't usurp Freeman unless Freeman gets hurt.
I'd feel more comfortable starting Powell on a weekly basis simply because I think he's going to be a lock to catch 4-5 passes almost every week. Coleman's upside feels more capped with Freeman on the field.
Now, if you took Forte and Freeman out of the equation entirely, I'd probably take Coleman.
Coleman would also be more of a must own for me if I was a Freeman owner.
I do believe there is a chance for Coleman to gradually steal carries/touches from Freeman if Coleman can stay healthy, which he hasn't so far.
he's missed 7 games to injury in two seasons.
But agree with Arc on safer play.
I'd really like to handcuff Freeman and Coleman, but they're both valued backs and those types of handcuffs are costly.
gracias, much appreciated.
Thank you!
you mean don't adjust at halftime? Force the plan into the 4th quarter even if it is not working? Do we know a coach who did that?
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you mean don't adjust at halftime? Force the plan into the 4th quarter even if it is not working? Do we know a coach who did that?
Precisely!
Most people do, but I bet your list isn't rigid by positions, especially since someone always throws a curve ball and takes Drew Brees in the first round or some shit like that. and then someone becomes available that you didn't expect to be there.
Last year's draft I had a guy take Derrick Henry in the first. It was a keeper league, but holy shit, people were hurrying up to make sure that pick got "locked in" before he could change his mind. then we laughed at him.
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and a list of players in each round to target, but you have to have the ability to adjust as things unfold. I usually go in having a good idea of what positions I'm getting with my first 3 picks.
Most people do, but I bet your list isn't rigid by positions, especially since someone always throws a curve ball and takes Drew Brees in the first round or some shit like that. and then someone becomes available that you didn't expect to be there.
Last year's draft I had a guy take Derrick Henry in the first. It was a keeper league, but holy shit, people were hurrying up to make sure that pick got "locked in" before he could change his mind. then we laughed at him.
^This. There's always those "off script" picks that push someone down.
I Have 2 leagues, same # of teams, PPR, and one I pick 9, the other 7. Zeke's suspension totally fucked shit up, at 7 I had a chance at Julio or Mike Evans, but they will both be gone now, and at 9 I was planning on taking Gordon, but he will be gone now.
We also have a point for every 15 return yards, so I'm looking at Tyreek Hill as my #2 WR and Perkins as my #2 RB. Most think valuing Perk that high is crazy, but I dont.