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NY Giants v. Clev. Browns Preseason Game Discussion

gidiefor : Mod : 8/21/2017 7:12 pm
Give 'em hell!
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The biggest problem with our defense...  
M.S. : 8/21/2017 8:34 pm : link
... Is that they don't play offense.
RE: We are being vanilla on O  
FStubbs : 8/21/2017 8:34 pm : link
In comment 13567331 Mike in NY said:
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What. We are seeing now is not our complete regular season O


But they should at least be able to block.
RE: I see Richburg and Jerry being the problem  
UberAlias : 8/21/2017 8:34 pm : link
In comment 13567324 George from PA said:
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The tackles are not that big of an issue.
Agreed. I'm not a John Jerry fan. He's a huge liability in the run game and not nearly the level of pass blocker that you could overlook the fact.
Just block a little and run for one first down.  
Jimmy Googs : 8/21/2017 8:34 pm : link
One....
RE: We are being vanilla on O  
The_Boss : 8/21/2017 8:34 pm : link
In comment 13567331 Mike in NY said:
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What. We are seeing now is not our complete regular season O


Heard and read the same shit last August.
I understand being vanilla  
bubba0825 : 8/21/2017 8:34 pm : link
But our oline look overmatched on simple blocks
That  
AcidTest : 8/21/2017 8:35 pm : link
was good by Flowers, but his problem is not bull rushers, but speed around the edge.
.  
arcarsenal : 8/21/2017 8:36 pm : link
There we go. Couple nice gains.
arc  
prdave73 : 8/21/2017 8:36 pm : link
its just preseason right? lol
Engram is going to be a  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/21/2017 8:36 pm : link
Beast.
Flowers  
The 12th Man : 8/21/2017 8:36 pm : link
So far so good. A couple of those plays he could have easily been flagged for holding.
You hear that long whistle immediately following a play  
Ben in Tampa : 8/21/2017 8:36 pm : link
And hold your breath. Preseason injuries are like a black cloud hanging over you the team for 60 minutes
RE: I  
Jim in Tampa : 8/21/2017 8:37 pm : link
In comment 13567340 AcidTest said:
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think if the OL continues to play this way, Reese will do something. Even an average OL would make us legitimate SB contenders with our D, weapons, and Eli. In the short run, I'd like to see more of Gettis and Halapio.


Do what exactly? Draft and free agency are over and no team is trading a quality OL during the season.
Flowers looks like he could have gotten  
Jimmy Googs : 8/21/2017 8:37 pm : link
a few penalties to me...
That quick hitter to Engram coming out of the backfield  
mfsd : 8/21/2017 8:37 pm : link
could be a very nice play for us. And doesn't require the OL to hold their blocks for too long

Of course defenses will load up to stop it, unless we can prove just a little ability to run the ball
RE: RE: I see Richburg and Jerry being the problem  
wonderback : 8/21/2017 8:37 pm : link
In comment 13567345 UberAlias said:
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In comment 13567324 George from PA said:


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The tackles are not that big of an issue.


Agreed. I'm not a John Jerry fan. He's a huge liability in the run game and not nearly the level of pass blocker that you could overlook the fact.


Couldn't agree more. Jerry's play gets lost in all the Flower's crap.
RE: I understand being vanilla  
EricJ : 8/21/2017 8:37 pm : link
In comment 13567348 bubba0825 said:
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But our oline look overmatched on simple blocks


That's all I am saying. it does not matter what the play calling is. When you are lined up against one guy in front of you and he is tossing you around at will... then you have serious problems.
RE: I  
Jim in Tampa : 8/21/2017 8:37 pm : link
In comment 13567340 AcidTest said:
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think if the OL continues to play this way, Reese will do something. Even an average OL would make us legitimate SB contenders with our D, weapons, and Eli. In the short run, I'd like to see more of Gettis and Halapio.


Do what exactly? Draft and free agency are over and no team is trading a quality OL during the season.
Flowers hasn't really been the issue thus far  
bigbluescot : 8/21/2017 8:37 pm : link
it's the center right side which has been poor
RE: Flowers looks like he could have gotten  
wonderback : 8/21/2017 8:38 pm : link
In comment 13567356 Jimmy Googs said:
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a few penalties to me...


Is the headlock part of the technique he's been working on? Seems to have that one down.
RE: RE: I  
AcidTest : 8/21/2017 8:38 pm : link
In comment 13567355 Jim in Tampa said:
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In comment 13567340 AcidTest said:


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think if the OL continues to play this way, Reese will do something. Even an average OL would make us legitimate SB contenders with our D, weapons, and Eli. In the short run, I'd like to see more of Gettis and Halapio.



Do what exactly? Draft and free agency are over and no team is trading a quality OL during the season.


Maybe a vet OL. I agree there is no magic solution.
they can not worth a lick  
micky : 8/21/2017 8:39 pm : link
holy bad
RE: arc  
arcarsenal : 8/21/2017 8:39 pm : link
In comment 13567351 prdave73 said:
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its just preseason right? lol


Yes, which is important to keep in mind if you're going to complain about play calls.

Execution is different.
RE: they can not worth a lick  
micky : 8/21/2017 8:39 pm : link
In comment 13567364 micky said:
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holy bad


run
Good God.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 8/21/2017 8:39 pm : link
We cannot run the ball at all.
How can we be so consistently incompetent  
jlukes : 8/21/2017 8:40 pm : link
At running the ball.
our offensive line  
TeamSchlitz1 : 8/21/2017 8:40 pm : link
absolutely SUCKS! Holy Shit!!!!

Flowers is their best OL player so far  
PatersonPlank : 8/21/2017 8:40 pm : link
Hart and Jerry, especially Jerry, needs to be replaced
really absurd  
TexasGmenFan : 8/21/2017 8:40 pm : link
that this team ignored the OL this offseason.
RE: Good God.  
Del Shofner : 8/21/2017 8:40 pm : link
In comment 13567367 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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We cannot run the ball at all.


True, unfortunately.
special teams breaking down tonight too  
micky : 8/21/2017 8:40 pm : link
.
RE: Good God.  
EricJ : 8/21/2017 8:40 pm : link
In comment 13567367 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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We cannot run the ball at all.

yeah Perkins is getting hit three yards into the backfield way too often.
This team's run blocking is actually worse than  
jeff57 : 8/21/2017 8:40 pm : link
its pass blocking.
2nd worst run offense in the league since 2011  
jlukes : 8/21/2017 8:40 pm : link
2nd

Worst
RE: How can we be so consistently incompetent  
Joey from GlenCove : 8/21/2017 8:40 pm : link
In comment 13567368 jlukes said:
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At running the ball.


Also crazy we won a super bowl with last rated rushing attack.
did they just call the same run play again??  
prdave73 : 8/21/2017 8:40 pm : link
smh

Richburg  
Mike in NY : 8/21/2017 8:41 pm : link
Gets no push in running game
Looked like Perkins cut the wrong way  
mfsd : 8/21/2017 8:41 pm : link
on that second down run

Nice punt coverage
.  
arcarsenal : 8/21/2017 8:41 pm : link
I'd rather see Fluker than Jerry. If we can't run the ball at all, we're not going anywhere.
Ellison was awful  
bubba0825 : 8/21/2017 8:41 pm : link
On that last running play
RE: Flowers is their best OL player so far  
UberAlias : 8/21/2017 8:41 pm : link
In comment 13567370 PatersonPlank said:
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Hart and Jerry, especially Jerry, needs to be replaced
. Been saying it about Jerry. He's terrible.
Kiser in  
micky : 8/21/2017 8:41 pm : link
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to the whole "Flowers doesn't stink" crowd  
TeamSchlitz1 : 8/21/2017 8:42 pm : link
HOLY!!!!! I wanted to give this guy a chance too, the truth is he just is not good as being a LT, lets salvage what we can and move him to a mauling guard. He/one of our other shitty linemen is going to get Eli killed.
Don't worry,  
bceagle05 : 8/21/2017 8:42 pm : link
Justin Pugh will give us some bullshit answer about the OL play and then remind everyone how much money guards are getting these days.
duke Johnson burst of speed on edge  
micky : 8/21/2017 8:42 pm : link
.
Specials not so special  
ZogZerg : 8/21/2017 8:42 pm : link
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Is Pugh still excited at the direction the OL is heading?  
The_Boss : 8/21/2017 8:42 pm : link
Is that direction always 2 yards into the fucking backfield?
Probably another nail biter season especially with tougher schedule  
joe48 : 8/21/2017 8:43 pm : link
Hopefully the offense jells as the season progresses. Defense will have to carry the load again in the early going. Offensive line looks about the same as last year - not good.
cannot believe we ignored the OL this offseason  
TeamSchlitz1 : 8/21/2017 8:43 pm : link
we are going to pay dearly for that. What good are four stud pass catchers if we have .3 seconds to throw it to them?
RE: to the whole  
PatersonPlank : 8/21/2017 8:44 pm : link
In comment 13567386 TeamSchlitz1 said:
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HOLY!!!!! I wanted to give this guy a chance too, the truth is he just is not good as being a LT, lets salvage what we can and move him to a mauling guard. He/one of our other shitty linemen is going to get Eli killed.


Flowers has not been the issue tonight, he's actually done well. The right side has been horrible.
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