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According to Papa/Diehl, interior trio the issue

That’s Gold, Jerry : 8/23/2017 10:05 am
on the offensive line, not Flowers or Hart. I was on their show on Sirius this morning and started talking about Flowers.

Bob jumped in, saying I had bought into the media view of EF and indicating that, so far this season, the issue has been Pugh, Richburg and Jerry. DD said they are getting no push at all at the POA and are getting pushed back into the backfield. In terms of running the ball, they seemed to indicate these three are not, as yet, playing good enough.

Thoughts?
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Pugh and Ritchburg  
Chris L. : 8/23/2017 7:34 pm : link
have been overrated on this board for a long time. Both continually get pushed backwards. Please let this end the lets give them big money talk. We need to pay some offensive lineman but my money wouldn't go to either of these two guys.
RE: RE: RE: Profound observation...  
Klaatu : 8/23/2017 8:27 pm : link
In comment 13570469 M.S. said:
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In comment 13570392 Klaatu said:


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In comment 13570383 M.S. said:


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...when a 6th grader can see our o-line crashed inward on several running plays.

Jerry Reese -- 5 years and counting to fix this mess.



Exactly how many years should it take?


IMO, 3 at max. And if the front office knows how to evaluate O-line college and free agent talent, maybe 2.


Jeepers, it took us around four or five years to build the last dominant O-Line we had...same for the Cowboys with their current stellar O-Line.

You could do it in three at the max, maybe two?

You should sell your magic formula to every team in the league. You'd clean up.
Paul Blake - good comment  
idiotsavant : 8/23/2017 9:00 pm : link
''The Giants
PaulBlakeTSU : 10:46 am : link : reply
offense is like a race car with a broken clutch. The top speed capabilities and the excellent driver are meaningless if it can never get out of first gear.

This offense is completely hopeless if the line continues to play at this current level at the POA. It will require McAdoo becoming far, FAR more creative with offensive disguises and unpredictable play-calling to even give this team a shot of putting points on the board.''

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A really smart guy once compared Fassels Giants to a "Ferrari without an engine"

(due to the exact same thing, line play and effects of it ....while you do have great tools you cannot use them properly)
i posted during MNF  
djstat : 8/23/2017 9:09 pm : link
Richburg was a problem and gets no push
instead of training with that OLine guru  
madgiantscow009 : 8/23/2017 9:54 pm : link
they need to be in Jersey training with Flowers next off season. ;)
RE: RE: Profound observation...  
LauderdaleMatty : 8/23/2017 10:27 pm : link
In comment 13570392 Klaatu said:
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In comment 13570383 M.S. said:


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...when a 6th grader can see our o-line crashed inward on several running plays.

Jerry Reese -- 5 years and counting to fix this mess.



Exactly how many years should it take?


Dallas did it in 3.
Deihl practically said the middle three are weak  
Elite Mobster #32 : 8/23/2017 10:35 pm : link
That could be the problem
RE: I said it 100x last spring  
Ten Ton Hammer : 8/24/2017 12:13 am : link
In comment 13570766 idiotsavant said:
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' go G-C-G 1,2,3 in the draft'


You can say it, but that doesn't make it a viable plan for building a ballclub. There are two first round picks and a second round pick playing on this offensive line right now. How's that working out?
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Ten Ton Hammer : 8/24/2017 12:15 am : link
In comment 13570381 winoguy said:
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There's no nasty, no attitude.


How would we know this? From watching on TV? Richburg has been ejected from games for personal fouls.

They're not performing well, but "they're not mean enough" is amateur psychology without even knowing the personalities.
With regards to the interior line issues  
The Tempest : 8/24/2017 11:18 am : link
It is absolutely reasonable to expect Pugh and Richburg to improve. They will get better than they have shown so far this year. Find it very hard to consider at this point they are declining as players.

John Jerry has always been average, a combination of slightly better pass protection and terrible run blocking. This year he has proven a liability in pass protection. He is bringing down the quality of the entire offensive line, yes even the plays that go to the other side.
Some of us  
area junc : 8/24/2017 11:30 am : link
have been saying Pugh, Richburg & Hart lack play strength for a while now. This has been on full display, sometimes people evaluate what they want to see rather than what they're actually seeing.

Take Pugh f.e. - I've constantly read here how he's a top G, and he certainly talks a good game. But how any Giants fan who just spent years watching Seubert & Snee could think Pugh was a top notch G is just incredible. He's a serviceable starter, nothing more. As Diehl & the boys are pointing out, he gets zero push. Doesn't fire off the ball with intensity.

The whole damn line plays weak outside of Flowers. You can't have 4 weaklings on the OL and expect to block ANY pro front 7. Look at Richburg's comments yesterday about no mental errors. That's the scariest thing: there is no cure for getting physically manhandled
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