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NFT: Knicks Chat: J. Parker was briefly discussed in Melo deal

DanMetroMan : 9/6/2017 11:28 am
"ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski reported last month that Houston was looking for a third team to make a trade work. The Milwaukee Bucks emerged as a potential third team at one point, per league sources, but there was no traction toward a deal. Milwaukee has been trying to shed salary so, in all likelihood, the idea of taking back the remaining money on Ryan Anderson's contract (three years, $60 million) in a trade wasn't enticing.

One name that came up in those (very) preliminary talks? Bucks forward Jabari Parker, per league sources.

The report didn't declare if the Knicks asked for Parker or the Bucks wanted to shop the young forward, but either would be a boon to a potential return for Anthony.

It's unclear which side -- the Knicks or Bucks -- brought up Parker's name. What is clear is that Parker would have been part of an outgoing package that included a larger Bucks contract, such as John Henson's or Greg Monroe's. If that deal had come to fruition, the Knicks would have received the type of return they'd long hoped for in an Anthony trade: a young player on a below-market contract in Parker."

Considering Robinson comes from the Bucks (and advocated for Beasley) and Cofield was Parker's trainer pre-draft, it should come as no surprise (assuming it's true) that the Knicks hoped to land the talented but oft-injured Parker.
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I'm assuming the deal  
Captplanet : 9/6/2017 11:38 am : link
fell through because no one wants Carmelo Anthony.
RE: I'm assuming the deal  
DanMetroMan : 9/6/2017 11:41 am : link
In comment 13585984 Captplanet said:
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fell through because no one wants Carmelo Anthony.


The Rockets and Blazers both want Carmelo Anthony. The issue is the Rockets have no assets and Melo likely balks at a deal to Portland.
his injury history would be a major concern...  
Italianju : 9/6/2017 11:45 am : link
but id have seriously considered taking on anderson if it meant we got parker
2 ACLs  
Pep22 : 9/6/2017 11:47 am : link
no thanks, if JP is the only reward for taking on RAs salary
RE: his injury history would be a major concern...  
DanMetroMan : 9/6/2017 11:48 am : link
In comment 13585999 Italianju said:
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but id have seriously considered taking on anderson if it meant we got parker


I would have done that without a second thought. Parker will be all of 23 in March (5 months older than KP) and was having a breakout season.
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DanMetroMan : 9/6/2017 11:49 am : link
In comment 13586002 Pep22 said:
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no thanks, if JP is the only reward for taking on RAs salary


Prepare for far, far worse return than an uber-talented 22 year old for Melo.
Ryan  
DanMetroMan : 9/6/2017 11:50 am : link
Anderson has a "bad" contract but he's not a bad player. He has value to a team (not the Knicks) but it's far from a given the Knicks would be unable to spin him at the deadline. He can help contenders.
Marcellus wiley  
nygiants16 : 9/6/2017 11:53 am : link
yes consider the source, says he was in a house with carmelo and said he will be traded to houston in 2 weeks
KP  
DanMetroMan : 9/6/2017 11:54 am : link
with his first "bad" game for Latvia (11 and 4). He's looked beastly in highlights previously. Russia apparently bodied him pretty hard and he didn't really respond.
you say  
Pep22 : 9/6/2017 11:54 am : link
prepare for a far worse return that JP

the key variable is the RA contract; if we have to take on that, I'd want more than a guy who while talented, is has already had two reconstructed knees at 22
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DanMetroMan : 9/6/2017 11:54 am : link
In comment 13586020 nygiants16 said:
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yes consider the source, says he was in a house with carmelo and said he will be traded to houston in 2 weeks


If it's a 2 team trade the return is likely going to be comical.
RE: you say  
DanMetroMan : 9/6/2017 11:55 am : link
In comment 13586024 Pep22 said:
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prepare for a far worse return that JP

the key variable is the RA contract; if we have to take on that, I'd want more than a guy who while talented, is has already had two reconstructed knees at 22


Again, Anderson's contract is less than ideal but he's also a very solid player which means it's quite possible you can move him in-season. The Rockets sending garbage to the Knicks does what exactly? Talent is more important than cap space right now.
that would have been nice  
Greg from LI : 9/6/2017 11:56 am : link
I can't think of any possible return they will get that would have been better than Parker
This  
DanMetroMan : 9/6/2017 11:58 am : link
idea Ryan Anderson is garbage is really silly. Averaged 14 and 5 on 42% from the field, 40% from 3, 86% from the line. WS/48 .117 (would have been #3 on the Knicks behind KOQ and Willy).
this is yet another example of why  
Enzo : 9/6/2017 11:58 am : link
the NBA CBA is so dumb. The Rockets should be able to trade Anderson or any other player while keeping a portion of the financial obligation owed him on their cap (like in the NHL), thereby lessening the cap hit to the acquiring team. It would be so much easier to facilitate trades.
RE: that would have been nice  
DanMetroMan : 9/6/2017 11:59 am : link
In comment 13586032 Greg from LI said:
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I can't think of any possible return they will get that would have been better than Parker


Exactly. Qi? Hartenstein? Future 1sts from a team that looks locked and loaded for the next few?
RE: this is yet another example of why  
DanMetroMan : 9/6/2017 12:00 pm : link
In comment 13586034 Enzo said:
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the NBA CBA is so dumb. The Rockets should be able to trade Anderson or any other player while keeping a portion of the financial obligation owed him on their cap (like in the NHL), thereby lessening the cap hit to the acquiring team. It would be so much easier to facilitate trades.


Totally agree.
Dotson  
DanMetroMan : 9/6/2017 12:02 pm : link
and Randle played pickup ball with Melo/THjr (and some non-Knicks) including McCollum who has been trying to convince Melo to go to Portland. Randle was unspeakably bad in summer league.
RE: Dotson  
nygiants16 : 9/6/2017 12:03 pm : link
In comment 13586049 DanMetroMan said:
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and Randle played pickup ball with Melo/THjr (and some non-Knicks) including McCollum who has been trying to convince Melo to go to Portland. Randle was unspeakably bad in summer league.


apparently frank has been playing in those games as well
RE: RE: Dotson  
DanMetroMan : 9/6/2017 12:05 pm : link
In comment 13586052 nygiants16 said:
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and Randle played pickup ball with Melo/THjr (and some non-Knicks) including McCollum who has been trying to convince Melo to go to Portland. Randle was unspeakably bad in summer league.



apparently frank has been playing in those games as well


Yeah I saw him in highlights the other day, I didn't see him in the most recent video (Kanter, McCollum, Melo, THjr, Randle "and others" but Tommy Beer didn't mention Frank and he name checks the Knicks who play so I'm assuming no Frank).
off topic, but interesting article  
Enzo : 9/6/2017 12:05 pm : link
on Isiah's hip.
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Parker  
TyreeHelmet : 9/6/2017 12:06 pm : link
Getting Jabari would be an incredible feat for the Knicks. It's never going to happen, but for fun how would a 3 team work? What would the Bucks be getting to make it worth it for them? I can't envision any scenario.
RE: Parker  
DanMetroMan : 9/6/2017 12:08 pm : link
In comment 13586061 TyreeHelmet said:
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Getting Jabari would be an incredible feat for the Knicks. It's never going to happen, but for fun how would a 3 team work? What would the Bucks be getting to make it worth it for them? I can't envision any scenario.


If I had a guess (and it's not mentioned) but this was probably related to the Bucks reportedly "waiting in the weeds" for Kyrie Irving if the Cavs/Celts deal fell apart.
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nygiants16 : 9/6/2017 12:09 pm : link
In comment 13586055 DanMetroMan said:
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and Randle played pickup ball with Melo/THjr (and some non-Knicks) including McCollum who has been trying to convince Melo to go to Portland. Randle was unspeakably bad in summer league.



apparently frank has been playing in those games as well



Yeah I saw him in highlights the other day, I didn't see him in the most recent video (Kanter, McCollum, Melo, THjr, Randle "and others" but Tommy Beer didn't mention Frank and he name checks the Knicks who play so I'm assuming no Frank).


yeah i dont think he was in the latest one
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