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Pro Football Doc Says Odell Will Be Limited At Best Week 1

Josh in the City : 9/7/2017 2:41 pm
Dr. David Chao who knows what he's talking about (ex NFL doc) and has an incredible track record posted the article below. Based on the videos from practice he says there a high likelihood he doesn't play Sunday night and that even if he does he would be severely limited.
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Did he examine...  
Chris in Philly : 9/7/2017 2:43 pm : link
Beckham?
Lol  
Danny Kanell : 9/7/2017 2:44 pm : link
"Based on videos of practice."
Go look at his  
Josh in the City : 9/7/2017 2:45 pm : link
Twitter feed. He is like 95% accurate at diagnosing injuries live during games just based on what he sees on TV/replays. Wouldn't discredit what he says just b/c he hasn't examined him.
how a doctor  
nygiants16 : 9/7/2017 2:45 pm : link
who has never even looked at beckhams ankle can say if he will play or wont play on sunday is absolutely absurd to me...

no wonder the dude almost lost his medical license
Doesn't he have a rep for being a quack?  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/7/2017 2:45 pm : link
.
Can we all agree  
Beezer : 9/7/2017 2:46 pm : link
to just NOT have any more threads about who thinks OBJ will or won't play Sunday?

Let's just let it play out, fercrisakes.
Dr. Chao 'has an incredible track record'?  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/7/2017 2:46 pm : link
What exactly is incredible about his track record?
forget the quaks  
djm : 9/7/2017 2:47 pm : link
or legit docs. If you think Beckham is NOT going to be limited these next 2-3 weeks you're probably setting yourself up for disappointment. I don't think he even plays Sunday but you never know I guess.

He's definitely going to be limited. The guy hasn't practiced in two weeks.
This guy  
ryanmkeane : 9/7/2017 2:48 pm : link
is the worst. Comes on twitter and talks about every injury the second after it happened. I'm pretty sure he went on immediately and talked about Odell's knee after the hit and was already diagnosing it. The fact that anyone follows or listens to this guy is silly.
RE: Dr. Chao 'has an incredible track record'?  
Josh in the City : 9/7/2017 2:48 pm : link
In comment 13587440 Big Blue Blogger said:
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What exactly is incredible about his track record?


His ability to almost always correctly diagnose injuries from his couch.
this is the same guy who said  
nygiants16 : 9/7/2017 2:48 pm : link
odell must have a high ankle because he wasnt on the field 2 days after the injury, how can you possibly know that?
RE: Go look at his  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/7/2017 2:49 pm : link
Josh in the City said:
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Twitter feed. He is like 95% accurate at diagnosing injuries live during games just based on what he sees on TV/replays.
Where did you get that 95% figure? Did you match his tweets with the eventual diagnosis by the relevant team doctors?
Josh...  
ryanmkeane : 9/7/2017 2:49 pm : link
95%?? Based on what, a guy going down and holding his knee AS SOON as he plants (like Edelman) and then Chao saying "man, I fear that's the dreaded ACL for Edelman."

I'm about a million miles away from being a doctor and I could do what this idiot does on twitter.
RE: RE: Dr. Chao 'has an incredible track record'?  
nygiants16 : 9/7/2017 2:50 pm : link
In comment 13587444 Josh in the City said:
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In comment 13587440 Big Blue Blogger said:


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What exactly is incredible about his track record?



His ability to almost always correctly diagnose injuries from his couch.


he almost lost his medical license for malpractice
This dude was fired from the Chargers,  
BH28 : 9/7/2017 2:51 pm : link
sued for malpractice, and accused of gross negligence by the CA state medical board.

Can we please stop posting him as a credible source?
Cowherd  
joeinpa : 9/7/2017 2:53 pm : link
Siting his source with the Giants, said today on his show: "Beckham will not play"
RE: This dude was fired from the Chargers,  
Mad Mike : 9/7/2017 2:53 pm : link
In comment 13587456 BH28 said:
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sued for malpractice, and accused of gross negligence by the CA state medical board.

Can we please stop posting him as a credible source?

Dude, 95% is 95%. That's an A+ in most schools.
RE: Cowherd  
ryanmkeane : 9/7/2017 2:55 pm : link
In comment 13587458 joeinpa said:
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Siting his source with the Giants, said today on his show: "Beckham will not play"

Haha, Cowherd's Giant source.
Cowherd also said the Eagles are the 5th best team  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/7/2017 2:57 pm : link
in the NFL..
Not sure of the severity (moderate? Severe?) or location(high? Low?),  
Big Blue '56 : 9/7/2017 2:58 pm : link
but one thing is most likely, he'll be managing this the entire season, imo..That's the usual expectation re injuries such as this. Of course he could be that proverbial exception
Limited at best is probably correct  
BlackLight : 9/7/2017 3:14 pm : link
But it covers a pretty broad range of ability.

If he plays, the question is, how effective of a decoy can he be?
RE: Go look at his  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 9/7/2017 3:17 pm : link
In comment 13587434 Josh in the City said:
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Twitter feed. He is like 95% accurate at diagnosing injuries live during games just based on what he sees on TV/replays. Wouldn't discredit what he says just b/c he hasn't examined him.


Twitter Josh at it again. 95%? Stop pulling numbers out of your ass.
RE: RE: RE: Dr. Chao 'has an incredible track record'?  
Giantology : 9/7/2017 3:20 pm : link
In comment 13587450 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 13587444 Josh in the City said:


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In comment 13587440 Big Blue Blogger said:


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What exactly is incredible about his track record?



His ability to almost always correctly diagnose injuries from his couch.



he almost lost his medical license for malpractice


I heard it was only malpractice 5% of the time.
Beckham is playing Sunday  
ThatLimerickGuy : 9/7/2017 3:20 pm : link
A lot of this is gamesmanship.

Could you imagine preparing to play a team with or without it's best player? It's like preparing for 2 different offenses.

Beckham is up for the charade because he loves the attention and the "Will he/ Won't he" bit.

It's what I call the Roethlisberger move. Suffer an injury- float how bad it is or act like it's worse than it is by limping up the field (Ben) or collapsing in the tunnel when you see a camera following you in (Odell). Then the media hypes you up as a tough guy. For a guy who has a reputation around the league of being a little "soft" if not other things, this is a calculated move by Gmen and Odell together.

Note that I am NOT saying that he isn't hurt- we all saw what happened, but all indications were that he was walking around fine the next day. That was 2 weeks ago. What happened since then?
RE: Beckham is playing Sunday  
Giantology : 9/7/2017 3:22 pm : link
In comment 13587507 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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A lot of this is gamesmanship.

Could you imagine preparing to play a team with or without it's best player? It's like preparing for 2 different offenses.

Beckham is up for the charade because he loves the attention and the "Will he/ Won't he" bit.

It's what I call the Roethlisberger move. Suffer an injury- float how bad it is or act like it's worse than it is by limping up the field (Ben) or collapsing in the tunnel when you see a camera following you in (Odell). Then the media hypes you up as a tough guy. For a guy who has a reputation around the league of being a little "soft" if not other things, this is a calculated move by Gmen and Odell together.

Note that I am NOT saying that he isn't hurt- we all saw what happened, but all indications were that he was walking around fine the next day. That was 2 weeks ago. What happened since then?


Ah look, another crock of shit. Way to project buddy!
I tend to think the guy is right in this case  
Heisenberg : 9/7/2017 3:26 pm : link
But he's literally a twitter doctor at this point. It's dumb to place a lot of weight on his opinion.
RE: Beckham is playing Sunday  
arcarsenal : 9/7/2017 3:28 pm : link
In comment 13587507 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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A lot of this is gamesmanship.

Could you imagine preparing to play a team with or without it's best player? It's like preparing for 2 different offenses.

Beckham is up for the charade because he loves the attention and the "Will he/ Won't he" bit.

It's what I call the Roethlisberger move. Suffer an injury- float how bad it is or act like it's worse than it is by limping up the field (Ben) or collapsing in the tunnel when you see a camera following you in (Odell). Then the media hypes you up as a tough guy. For a guy who has a reputation around the league of being a little "soft" if not other things, this is a calculated move by Gmen and Odell together.

Note that I am NOT saying that he isn't hurt- we all saw what happened, but all indications were that he was walking around fine the next day. That was 2 weeks ago. What happened since then?


If this is "inside info" of yours, then I'm 100% confident it's BS.

Not sure it gets any more ridiculous than this bit...

"Note that I am NOT saying that he isn't hurt- we all saw what happened, but all indications were that he was walking around fine the next day. That was 2 weeks ago. What happened since then?"

Gee, I don't know.. maybe it could be that walking around and playing NFL football at full speed are like.. two COMPLETELY different things? Nothing changed.

Your posts are brutal.

Also, can we stop posting garbage from this quack doctor? There's a reason why he's making these bullshit diagnosis' from his couch and not for a team.
Don't all reputable doctors diagnose injuries from TV footage?  
Greg from LI : 9/7/2017 3:29 pm : link
I thought that was a standard practice?
RE: Dr. Chao 'has an incredible track record'?  
Larry in Pencilvania : 9/7/2017 3:33 pm : link
In comment 13587440 Big Blue Blogger said:
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What exactly is incredible about his track record?


That he almost lost his medical license. He was barred from practicing surgery at two San Diego hospitals that are believed to have led to him resigning from his position with the chargers. He also was in trouble for prescribing Ambien to junior Seau up until his suicide.

I'd say that's incredible
RE: Beckham is playing Sunday  
Larry in Pencilvania : 9/7/2017 3:38 pm : link
In comment 13587507 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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. What happened since then?


Beckham learned how to babysit and change diapers
Dr. Chao  
B in ALB : 9/7/2017 3:38 pm : link
says amputation is imminent.

RE: Don't all reputable doctors diagnose injuries from TV footage?  
giants#1 : 9/7/2017 3:40 pm : link
In comment 13587515 Greg from LI said:
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I thought that was a standard practice?


MRIs/XRays are a scam pushed by Big Pharma
RE: Don't all reputable doctors diagnose injuries from TV footage?  
jcn56 : 9/7/2017 3:40 pm : link
In comment 13587515 Greg from LI said:
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I thought that was a standard practice?


Sounds about right. Last time I sprained my ankle, my doctor asked me to text her a video of it.

Not entirely sure why she needed me to be naked for it, but I'm no medical expert.
Larry: That's pretty much what I was thinking.  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/7/2017 3:41 pm : link
The word "incredible" has several meanings. They aren't all good.
jcn56: So THAT's what that video was.  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/7/2017 3:43 pm : link
I unsubscribed to her Youtube channel after she posted it.
In my opinion, also as a doctor,  
HoustonGiant : 9/7/2017 3:43 pm : link
I haven't examined him so I'll just STFU.
His incredible track record  
Larry in Pencilvania : 9/7/2017 3:48 pm : link
Also shows the incompetence of the Chargers. I can see why eli didn't want to go there.

Don't get me wrong Beckham may sit, but there's no way any medical professional can make a diagnosis from a YouTube video
95% wasn't meant  
Josh in the City : 9/7/2017 3:49 pm : link
to be an exact figure. I was using it as a phrase to say he's right almost every time just based on what he sees on TV. Either way, the guy knows what he's talking about more than any sports reporter or general fan.
.  
Britt in VA : 9/7/2017 3:49 pm : link
I would rather Sit Beckham  
FatBoyLacy : 9/7/2017 4:00 pm : link
I would rather Sit Beckham for a week or 2 and wait until hes 100% then have him have lingering issues all season
.  
arcarsenal : 9/7/2017 4:02 pm : link
I'm sure the Giants doctors will be perfectly capable of handling this without any input from this fucking garbage Dr. Twitter.
I'm not interested in what the Giants' doctors  
B in ALB : 9/7/2017 4:02 pm : link
have to say unless Slefrak's opinion concurs.
just tweeted slefrak and he agreed that B in Ala and Josh in the City  
plato : 9/7/2017 4:37 pm : link
are as disreputable and ignorant as Dr Chao
wait a minute...  
Greg from LI : 9/7/2017 4:53 pm : link
...how do we know Dr. Chao ISN'T slefrak?

This guy is supposedly a top notch Dr also  
montanagiant : 9/7/2017 5:35 pm : link
Was able to judge past Presidents health just from pics
Hack  
TyreeHelmet : 9/7/2017 5:36 pm : link
No credible doctor would ever comment on a player without examining him. Poor form. Who knows if Odell plays but this guy is a joke.
Wait..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/7/2017 5:51 pm : link
I thought plato is slefrak??

All we need is a confirmation that Odell is walking badly from that fuckstick to prove it.
RE: Wait..  
arcarsenal : 9/7/2017 6:05 pm : link
In comment 13587641 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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I thought plato is slefrak??

All we need is a confirmation that Odell is walking badly from that fuckstick to prove it.


Well, one thing's for sure.... he's an equally shitty poster!
RE: Go look at his  
Matt M. : 9/7/2017 6:14 pm : link
In comment 13587434 Josh in the City said:
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Twitter feed. He is like 95% accurate at diagnosing injuries live during games just based on what he sees on TV/replays. Wouldn't discredit what he says just b/c he hasn't examined him.
Diagnosing an injury on TV is one thing. Determining the severity weeks later based on video from practice is another. I used to be very accurate diagnosing injuries watching games after taking a spoets medicine class in college.
RE: just tweeted slefrak and he agreed that B in Ala and Josh in the City  
B in ALB : 9/7/2017 6:42 pm : link
In comment 13587589 plato said:
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are as disreputable and ignorant as Dr Chao


OK ya fuckin weirdo dupe loser. How many handles is this for you? And don't lie, dupe liar.
RE: Wait..  
Big Blue '56 : 9/7/2017 7:01 pm : link
In comment 13587641 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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I thought plato is slefrak??

All we need is a confirmation that Odell is walking badly from that fuckstick to prove it.


He is
RE: jcn56: So THAT's what that video was.  
T in NJ : 9/7/2017 7:08 pm : link
In comment 13587532 Big Blue Blogger said:
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I unsubscribed to her xHamster channel after she posted it.


FTFY
During the Parcel's era, did player's play through injuries like this  
SB 42 and 46 and ? : 9/7/2017 10:29 pm : link
frequently? I seem to recall players saying that once in the heat of the game they didn't even notice the pain. I'm thinking of the game that a lot of older fans remember where Emmitt Smith played with one arm and killed the Giants, although he must have had pain in the other arm.

Or, if the player plays through it, is it likely that the injury will just become more painful and the player risks missing more games than if he had just waited for the sprain to completely heal?
I saw Dr David Chao here last night...  
EricJ : 9/7/2017 10:53 pm : link
RE: I saw Dr David Chao here last night...  
B in ALB : 9/7/2017 10:56 pm : link
In comment 13587911 EricJ said:
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Word is that his Diners Club card was maxed out and he had to sleep in the dumpster again.
you know this docs a qwack  
micky : 9/7/2017 11:31 pm : link
diagnosing players via video. you guys fall hook line and sinker for this lolol
On Big Blue Kickoff Live  
Torn Tendon : 9/8/2017 12:46 am : link
The hosts says that they and the press only get to see about 5 - 10 minutes of practice. I'd that's the case OBJ could be practicing.
Dr. Chao's incredible record  
WillieYoung : 9/8/2017 8:07 am : link
Chao pleads guilty to an alcohol related reckless driving charge.
1998

Gary Losse, Chao's business partner, is fired as Chargers team physician amid allegations that he has a prescription drug addiction. Chao subsequently becomes Chargers doctor.
1999

Former Chargers defensive back Mark Montreuil accuses Chao of condoning and facilitating Losse's drug use while Losse treated his knee injury. Montreuil would never play in the NFL again.
2002

The state medical board fines Chao $1,000 for failing to maintain adequate and accurate records after allegations surfaced that Chao illegally wrote Losse prescriptions.

Former Chargers quarterback Ryan Leaf sues Chao for alleged negligence in treating Leaf's wrist and shoulder injuries. Leaf would later drop his suit for unknown reasons.
Former Chargers linebacker Jon Haskins sues Chao for allegedly misdiagnosing a knee injury that ended Haskins' NFL career. Haskins dropped his suit suddenly on the eve of trial to take a college coaching job.
Abby Rueckert sues Chao, alleging he negligently severed her artery during surgery. A jury verdict awards her $460,000 in damages.
SeaWorld performer Jeff Warner reaches a settlement with Chao in his suit for alleged malpractice. Chao prescribed a medical device that caused Warner to develop non-freezing cold injury; Chao then misdiagnosed the injury, which nearly caused Warner to need a leg amputation.
2007

Chao pleads guilty to a drunken driving charge and receives five years probation and a $1,800 fine.
2009

Tom Fagan reaches a settlement with Chao for an undisclosed amount. Fagan accused Chao of carelessness in treatment after his leg needed to be amputated following a knee replacement surgery that Chao performed.
2010

Federal Drug Enforcement Administration agents execute a search warrant on the Chargers facilities. Reports circulate that the investigation is due to suspicions that Chao has written himself at least 108 drug prescriptions since 2008. The investigation ended in 2012 without any sanctions or charges being issued. Note: One month prior to this investigation former Chargers defensive back Kevin Ellison was found in possession of a 100 Vicodins.
2011

An arbitration panel awards Kathleen Adams $2,347,197 in her suit against Chao for malpractice. Adams needed emergency surgery after Chao lacerated her artery, vein and nerves during hip surgery.
2012

NFLPA formally requests a review of Chao's qualifications. An independent panel of three doctors would later exonerate Chao.
The state medical board publicly reprimands Chao for not disclosing his prior incidents of drunken driving on his application to be licensed as a "qualified medical evaluator."

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