I am sure the minions of the PSU cult won't believe it, but the story looks more and more grim as the years go on. If any program ever deserved the death penalty it was them. Link - ( New Window )
I mean the program had to deal with what 1 year of probation? (Sarcasm off) 5 years later all is forgiven and they are back on top. What a joke. Screw a statue lets build a monument to good old JoePa.
For years after knowing what he did. We all realize he should have been arrested years ago but they not only didn't do that but actually seemed to coddle him after being fired
I hate when people talk bad about my old place..Penn State.. Â
When Paterno's death basically hijacked the Championship Sunday the last time the Giants made a Super Bowl run. The fact that he remains so revered when he failed to protect sexually abused children in order to protect a fucking college football program is reprehensible. I hope there is a special circle of hell for pedophiles and those who protect them.
... proudly say, 'My kid is going/goes to Pedo State.' One of them always made offensive comments about homosexuals, and now he proudly sends his boy to a school that enabled pedophilia and continues to bury its head in the sand.
I have no respect for anyone affiliated with that school and people that display their swag.
Feel free to tell me all the great things they do off the field. Sorry. My alma mater does that and they are DEAD to me.
To the Pedo State world. Fuck. You. That goes for all the Baylor fans, too.
Hello! Your school is a dogshit institution and doesn't deserve to have a football team, as the morally bankrupt assholes that were part of your institution valued college football over forced rape and sodomy of boys in the single digit ages!
I just got back from a week in PA (Hershey Park/Dutch Wonderland, etc) with the family. Every time I saw someone wear a Penn State hat or t-shirt it made me feel a little off.
Two "Penn Staters" saw each other at Hershey Park and said something and it turned my stomach.
And to think they are recruiting well and are in the Top 10 with maybe the best player in the country on the team. Who the fuck would ever want to go there and play after what happened?
How anyone convinces themself that Paterno didn't know Sandusky was a disturbed criminal is beyond me. I will always maintain that Sandusky's enablers were (and remain) more disgusting cowards than even Sandusky. Sandusky is a sick piece of garbage, but he clearly has some sort of uncontrollable pathology which compels him to rape children. It's no excuse, I'm glad he's finally in jail and I hope soul burns in eternal Hell fire, but Sandusky is a sick person. What's Paterno'a excuse? He wanted to win some football games? Joe Pa's legacy should be the obvious truth that he allowed children to be raped so his legacy of what was actually pretty average achievement would remain. He was a pathetic coward.
but I know several people who knew him well. They universally talk about his high principals and ethics.
I am 77 years old and Paterno was considerably older than me.
I grew up in a different and naïve time compared to subsequent generations. It's going to be hard for a more modern person to understand that this simply wasn't part of our repertoire. You might no it happened but only in a distant and theoretical way, not to anyone you knew or was near you. And monsters like that had horns, they were evil incarnate and visible. They weren't buddies you had a beer with or would have anything to do with football or sports.
You've grown up in a world where priests are labeled as perverts. That couldn't happen in our world, it's just something you couldn't comprehend...Priests were good, kind, sacrificing and men of God. That was our truth, that's why it existed for so long.
Remembering that Paterno is a generation before me, I will always believe that he was in denial, that he simply didn't get it - that it was too horrible to get around.
I just can't imagine any man, much less a man of reputed high character and morals countenancing anything like this.
It just didn't happen in certain circles.
Believing the alternative - that Paterno knew, really knew - is, like the act itself, too horrible to contemplate and actually scares me.
If Paterno knew and countenanced it...everything in my world is a little bit shakier. So maybe I'm in denial too.
but I know several people who knew him well. They universally talk about his high principals and ethics.
I am 77 years old and Paterno was considerably older than me.
I grew up in a different and naïve time compared to subsequent generations. It's going to be hard for a more modern person to understand that this simply wasn't part of our repertoire. You might no it happened but only in a distant and theoretical way, not to anyone you knew or was near you. And monsters like that had horns, they were evil incarnate and visible. They weren't buddies you had a beer with or would have anything to do with football or sports.
You've grown up in a world where priests are labeled as perverts. That couldn't happen in our world, it's just something you couldn't comprehend...Priests were good, kind, sacrificing and men of God. That was our truth, that's why it existed for so long.
Remembering that Paterno is a generation before me, I will always believe that he was in denial, that he simply didn't get it - that it was too horrible to get around.
I just can't imagine any man, much less a man of reputed high character and morals countenancing anything like this.
It just didn't happen in certain circles.
Believing the alternative - that Paterno knew, really knew - is, like the act itself, too horrible to contemplate and actually scares me.
If Paterno knew and countenanced it...everything in my world is a little bit shakier. So maybe I'm in denial too.
What a load of crap. Spoiler alert: you're on denial
my grandfather is from that generation and he would have killed Jerry Sandusky with his bare hands if he caught him doing this. There is simply no good explanation as to why Paterno didn't do everything in his power (which was immense) to not only stop Sandusky but to eradicate that culture from his program and institution.
mandatory 10-year ban from playing NCAA football. I still can't believe it. Yeah a couple of administrators are walking around their houses wearing ankle bracelets as a condition of their home-confinement sentences. Great.
I remember a story I read about Paterno stopping an undergrad on campus , who had run a stop sign. Joe made himself a citizen's arrest, he of such impeccable integrity . Well, Coach, that doesn't make up for covering for and abetting the actions of a pedophile.
I'll remember him as he was his last game in Columbus, when he shit his pants on the sideline and had to sprint to the locker room during the game.
And for the counter-factual bent, he almost became HC of the Giants .
is moronic. These are individuals. Those involved have been punished or are dead. But anyone who has attended this university is also somehow still responsible? Hundreds of thousands of students and alumni have to continue to listen to this shit from ignorant jackasses. I went to Penn State and had a great experience. I've worked with abused children. But I still get this misdirected shit.
So? Your hero allowed children to be raped. And your alma mater tried to limit the damage. Fuck you and the rest of you despicable people who continue to either remain in denial or refuse to admit the university was wrong. Fuckwad.
No the football team isn't the whole school, but for decades it was as big a draw as any, bigger when it came to.fundraising. To protect the program and the tens of thousands of fans who descend on Happy Valley a few times a year and send checks and all that good shit, to protect a man who built that program and was it's single biggest draw long after he ceased to be effective, people consciously covered up child rape. To spare the program and it's figurehead from embarrassment, they let Sandusky go on raping. So the institution deserves every ounce of that guilt, and the people for whom that gives them no pause deserve their own share of shame.
Couple threads above we are praising one of our own beloved Lawrence Taylor who is registered as a low level sex offender for sleeping with a 16 year old. Don't hear the venomous outrage as I do for penn state.
Couple threads above we are praising one of our own beloved Lawrence Taylor who is registered as a low level sex offender for sleeping with a 16 year old. Don't hear the venomous outrage as I do for penn state.
Couple threads above we are praising one of our own beloved Lawrence Taylor who is registered as a low level sex offender for sleeping with a 16 year old. Don't hear the venomous outrage as I do for penn state.
Couple threads above we are praising one of our own beloved Lawrence Taylor who is registered as a low level sex offender for sleeping with a 16 year old. Don't hear the venomous outrage as I do for penn state.
I was wondering the same thing. We are told on this thread that it is a disgrace to root for Penn State.
I was wondering if those same people stopped rooting for the Giants because of L. T.
Obviously those posters find some sexual abuse to be so egregious that we should never root for that team again. But L. T. s sexual abuse while bad, It s really no reason to stop being a Giants fan, and there s certainly no need to revisit it every month.
You guys are pathetic.
Go State. Fuck guys like the OP who are too stupid to see there own hypocrisy.
Couple threads above we are praising one of our own beloved Lawrence Taylor who is registered as a low level sex offender for sleeping with a 16 year old. Don't hear the venomous outrage as I do for penn state.
Couple threads above we are praising one of our own beloved Lawrence Taylor who is registered as a low level sex offender for sleeping with a 16 year old. Don't hear the venomous outrage as I do for penn state.
You smoke crack, don't ya?
No but LT did that as well, prolly shouldn't put a statue up of him in front of Giants stadium. As if anyone would be against that despite his many flaws.
I was wondering the same thing. We are told on this thread that it is a disgrace to root for Penn State.
I was wondering if those same people stopped rooting for the Giants because of L. T.
Obviously those posters find some sexual abuse to be so egregious that we should never root for that team again. But L. T. s sexual abuse while bad, It s really no reason to stop being a Giants fan, and there s certainly no need to revisit it every month.
You guys are pathetic.
Go State. Fuck guys like the OP who are too stupid to see there own hypocrisy.
Another child molester apologist. You should be proud.
being self-righteous by pointing out that people who continue to idolize someone who allowed decades of child rape are loathsome? Or by pointing out the ridiculous false equivalency between the systematic cover-up of decades of pedophila and a guy with legendary substance abuse problems who in one case was tricked by a prostitute who misrepresented her age and tried to press assault charges that were ultimately thrown out by the judge. Is he really?
If your comments about being loathsome are directed towards me, I resent that.
Fuck you.
I have never supported the shitheads involved in that horrible fiasco, nor have I defended them. The main people involved, except for McQueary, have been properly tried and adjudicated.
I am not comparing LT to any of that.
For you and many others on this board who equate students and alumni as responsible for what happened is just pure Snowflake bullshit masquerading as outrage.
You should be ashamed of yourself for advocating that.
If your comments about being loathsome are directed towards me, I resent that.
Fuck you.
I have never supported the shitheads involved in that horrible fiasco, nor have I defended them. The main people involved, except for McQueary, have been properly tried and adjudicated.
I am not comparing LT to any of that.
For you and many others on this board who equate students and alumni as responsible for what happened is just pure Snowflake bullshit masquerading as outrage.
You should be ashamed of yourself for advocating that.
I wasn't really taking about you, but the absurd snowflake talking point makes me wish I was.
I have no beef with PSU people who recognize the horrors of what went on and feel some sense of shame for how Paterno continues to be idolized and defended. I just can't seem to find any.
you went to Penn State but can't be disgusted? Like I said earlier if this was Calhoun I'd sever all ties with UConn. I'd be appalled and repulsed, and I'd have no problem never rooting for them again.
Seriously? When LT was playing for the Giants he wasn't ever accused of pedophilia. Not ever. So there's no equivalence between LT and Sandusky. Zero. LTs no paragon of virtue, and the underage hooker thing from a few years ago earned him a grade A scum bag rating in my book. But he's not a pedophile.
The Giants organization certainly turned a blind eye to LTs drug use during a part of his career. But I don't think it's accurate to say they enabled his drug use and I don't think they covered up any criminal activity. I think it's fairly obvious that PSU covered up Sandusky's crimes. I also think it's fairly obvious that Paterno enabled Sandusky's crimes as the notion that a man like Paterno, who controlled every single aspect of the football program, didn't know about Sandusky is just pure fantasy. Just don't see how the Giants or their fans are in any way doing the same thing as PSU and Joe Pa supporters.
... proudly say, 'My kid is going/goes to Pedo State.' One of them always made offensive comments about homosexuals, and now he proudly sends his boy to a school that enabled pedophilia and continues to bury its head in the sand.
I have no respect for anyone affiliated with that school and people that display their swag.
Feel free to tell me all the great things they do off the field. Sorry. My alma mater does that and they are DEAD to me.
To the Pedo State world. Fuck. You. That goes for all the Baylor fans, too.
My daughter is a freshman at Penn State. She did have anything to do with this and Penn State is an excellent acedemic institution. I do not condone how they handled Sandusky but how and why should the kids who are there now have to pay for the mistakes of them? You want them to take down the statue of JoePA like General Lee? I am not apologizing but I am glad she is there. I was there last week met some of the professors and many of the workers who are there helping put their kids through college. Take your shots the man is where he should be,in jail. I hope they have a great year. What a great experience that would be for her to be a part of. My daughter is proud to be there and I am even prouder of her success. Personally, I could careless what you think about Penn State. All I worry about is who looks at her resume and hires her when she graduates. WE ARE PENN STATE!
is moronic. These are individuals. Those involved have been punished or are dead. But anyone who has attended this university is also somehow still responsible? Hundreds of thousands of students and alumni have to continue to listen to this shit from ignorant jackasses. I went to Penn State and had a great experience. I've worked with abused children. But I still get this misdirected shit.
Scum.
Violets are blue
Jerry rapes little boys
And Joe Paterno knew
I feel horrible for all the people Sandusky victimized over the years. My thoughts & prayers to them.
Scum.
Penn State grad here fuckwad.
I have no respect for anyone affiliated with that school and people that display their swag.
Feel free to tell me all the great things they do off the field. Sorry. My alma mater does that and they are DEAD to me.
To the Pedo State world. Fuck. You. That goes for all the Baylor fans, too.
Violets are blue
Jerry rapes little boys
And Joe Paterno knew
That is beautiful.
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Child molestation apologists chime in.
Scum.
Penn State grad here fuckwad.
I went to UConn and if this was Calhoun I'd renounce my fandom and want nothing to do with the school ever again.
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Child molestation apologists chime in.
Scum.
Penn State grad here fuckwad.
Fuck Penn St
Two "Penn Staters" saw each other at Hershey Park and said something and it turned my stomach.
And to think they are recruiting well and are in the Top 10 with maybe the best player in the country on the team. Who the fuck would ever want to go there and play after what happened?
I am 77 years old and Paterno was considerably older than me.
I grew up in a different and naïve time compared to subsequent generations. It's going to be hard for a more modern person to understand that this simply wasn't part of our repertoire. You might no it happened but only in a distant and theoretical way, not to anyone you knew or was near you. And monsters like that had horns, they were evil incarnate and visible. They weren't buddies you had a beer with or would have anything to do with football or sports.
You've grown up in a world where priests are labeled as perverts. That couldn't happen in our world, it's just something you couldn't comprehend...Priests were good, kind, sacrificing and men of God. That was our truth, that's why it existed for so long.
Remembering that Paterno is a generation before me, I will always believe that he was in denial, that he simply didn't get it - that it was too horrible to get around.
I just can't imagine any man, much less a man of reputed high character and morals countenancing anything like this.
It just didn't happen in certain circles.
Believing the alternative - that Paterno knew, really knew - is, like the act itself, too horrible to contemplate and actually scares me.
If Paterno knew and countenanced it...everything in my world is a little bit shakier. So maybe I'm in denial too.
I am 77 years old and Paterno was considerably older than me.
I grew up in a different and naïve time compared to subsequent generations. It's going to be hard for a more modern person to understand that this simply wasn't part of our repertoire. You might no it happened but only in a distant and theoretical way, not to anyone you knew or was near you. And monsters like that had horns, they were evil incarnate and visible. They weren't buddies you had a beer with or would have anything to do with football or sports.
You've grown up in a world where priests are labeled as perverts. That couldn't happen in our world, it's just something you couldn't comprehend...Priests were good, kind, sacrificing and men of God. That was our truth, that's why it existed for so long.
Remembering that Paterno is a generation before me, I will always believe that he was in denial, that he simply didn't get it - that it was too horrible to get around.
I just can't imagine any man, much less a man of reputed high character and morals countenancing anything like this.
It just didn't happen in certain circles.
Believing the alternative - that Paterno knew, really knew - is, like the act itself, too horrible to contemplate and actually scares me.
If Paterno knew and countenanced it...everything in my world is a little bit shakier. So maybe I'm in denial too.
What a load of crap. Spoiler alert: you're on denial
I remember a story I read about Paterno stopping an undergrad on campus , who had run a stop sign. Joe made himself a citizen's arrest, he of such impeccable integrity . Well, Coach, that doesn't make up for covering for and abetting the actions of a pedophile.
I'll remember him as he was his last game in Columbus, when he shit his pants on the sideline and had to sprint to the locker room during the game.
And for the counter-factual bent, he almost became HC of the Giants .
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Child molestation apologists chime in.
Scum.
Penn State grad here fuckwad.
So? Your hero allowed children to be raped. And your alma mater tried to limit the damage. Fuck you and the rest of you despicable people who continue to either remain in denial or refuse to admit the university was wrong. Fuckwad.
it was a tragdy....no matter how we view it.
if Joe refused to believe....is not an excuse. if he hid it on purpose....it is disgusting.
either way.....he died from this sorid tale
You seem smart...
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Couple threads above we are praising one of our own beloved Lawrence Taylor who is registered as a low level sex offender for sleeping with a 16 year old. Don't hear the venomous outrage as I do for penn state.
You seem smart...
You seem to hide behind your keyboard
You smoke crack, don't ya?
I was wondering if those same people stopped rooting for the Giants because of L. T.
Obviously those posters find some sexual abuse to be so egregious that we should never root for that team again. But L. T. s sexual abuse while bad, It s really no reason to stop being a Giants fan, and there s certainly no need to revisit it every month.
You guys are pathetic.
Go State. Fuck guys like the OP who are too stupid to see there own hypocrisy.
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Couple threads above we are praising one of our own beloved Lawrence Taylor who is registered as a low level sex offender for sleeping with a 16 year old. Don't hear the venomous outrage as I do for penn state.
You seem smart...
You seem to hide behind your keyboard
Um, okay?
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Couple threads above we are praising one of our own beloved Lawrence Taylor who is registered as a low level sex offender for sleeping with a 16 year old. Don't hear the venomous outrage as I do for penn state.
You smoke crack, don't ya?
No but LT did that as well, prolly shouldn't put a statue up of him in front of Giants stadium. As if anyone would be against that despite his many flaws.
I was wondering if those same people stopped rooting for the Giants because of L. T.
Obviously those posters find some sexual abuse to be so egregious that we should never root for that team again. But L. T. s sexual abuse while bad, It s really no reason to stop being a Giants fan, and there s certainly no need to revisit it every month.
You guys are pathetic.
Go State. Fuck guys like the OP who are too stupid to see there own hypocrisy.
Another child molester apologist. You should be proud.
Fuckin NAMBLA member.
You are also pathetic
You are also pathetic
You support a school that supported a child molester and his patron. What more can be said? You should be ashamed.
Good for you.
Now get down from your self-righteous pedestal and shut the fuck up.
Penn State people are so fucking weird.
Fuck you.
I have never supported the shitheads involved in that horrible fiasco, nor have I defended them. The main people involved, except for McQueary, have been properly tried and adjudicated.
I am not comparing LT to any of that.
For you and many others on this board who equate students and alumni as responsible for what happened is just pure Snowflake bullshit masquerading as outrage.
You should be ashamed of yourself for advocating that.
Fuck you.
I have never supported the shitheads involved in that horrible fiasco, nor have I defended them. The main people involved, except for McQueary, have been properly tried and adjudicated.
I am not comparing LT to any of that.
For you and many others on this board who equate students and alumni as responsible for what happened is just pure Snowflake bullshit masquerading as outrage.
You should be ashamed of yourself for advocating that.
I wasn't really taking about you, but the absurd snowflake talking point makes me wish I was.
I have no beef with PSU people who recognize the horrors of what went on and feel some sense of shame for how Paterno continues to be idolized and defended. I just can't seem to find any.
The Giants organization certainly turned a blind eye to LTs drug use during a part of his career. But I don't think it's accurate to say they enabled his drug use and I don't think they covered up any criminal activity. I think it's fairly obvious that PSU covered up Sandusky's crimes. I also think it's fairly obvious that Paterno enabled Sandusky's crimes as the notion that a man like Paterno, who controlled every single aspect of the football program, didn't know about Sandusky is just pure fantasy. Just don't see how the Giants or their fans are in any way doing the same thing as PSU and Joe Pa supporters.
Obviously those posters find some sexual abuse to be so egregious that we should never root for that team again.
"Some." Hahaha holy shit. I shiver to think what or who you would sacrifice for a Penn State national championship win.
Good for you.
Now get down from your self-righteous pedestal and shut the fuck up.
Self righteous? About child rape and a known mechanism to hide it, cover it up and limit the damage to a football team?
Are you Fucking kidding?
Holy shit.
Put the sign outside your house, filth.
I have no respect for anyone affiliated with that school and people that display their swag.
Feel free to tell me all the great things they do off the field. Sorry. My alma mater does that and they are DEAD to me.
To the Pedo State world. Fuck. You. That goes for all the Baylor fans, too.
My daughter is a freshman at Penn State. She did have anything to do with this and Penn State is an excellent acedemic institution. I do not condone how they handled Sandusky but how and why should the kids who are there now have to pay for the mistakes of them? You want them to take down the statue of JoePA like General Lee? I am not apologizing but I am glad she is there. I was there last week met some of the professors and many of the workers who are there helping put their kids through college. Take your shots the man is where he should be,in jail. I hope they have a great year. What a great experience that would be for her to be a part of. My daughter is proud to be there and I am even prouder of her success. Personally, I could careless what you think about Penn State. All I worry about is who looks at her resume and hires her when she graduates. WE ARE PENN STATE!
Amen!