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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/10/2017 9:59 am
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LETS GO GIANTS  
GiantsFanPatsLand : 9/10/2017 10:02 am : link
Start the season 1-0 and get an early lead on our main rival for the division
So happy Giants football is back  
pganut : 9/10/2017 10:02 am : link
I don't need style points. Just win. Go Big Blue.
let's go defense! it's up to you tonight  
micky : 9/10/2017 10:04 am : link
hopefully can get out of the with a w..going to be tough w/o obj
If ODB is at risk of exacerbating his injury, ...  
Boy Cord : 9/10/2017 10:14 am : link
... hope he stays on the sideline. It's a long season with what
looks like a brutal schedule. ODB can't miss an extended period of time.
I did read this week that 70%....  
UticaMike : 9/10/2017 10:14 am : link
.....of Giants players last year who were listed as "questionable" during the week ended up playing that Sunday.
It's football season!!!!!!!  
HBart : 9/10/2017 10:17 am : link
Go Giants!!!!!!
I think tonight we're going to get a proper introduction to  
jcn56 : 9/10/2017 10:19 am : link
Mr. Engram and his high speed football show.
Yeah Baby!  
gidiefor : Mod : 9/10/2017 10:19 am : link
Go Giants!!!!
Let's go Big Blue!  
trueblueinpw : 9/10/2017 10:31 am : link
Looking forward to the game, but I wish Florida wasn't getting destroyed while I'm watching football. Doesn't seem right to get too excited about any of the games. Hoping for the best for everyone down in Florida.

Doubt OBJ plays. Wouldn't it be great to see Perk rush for 200 yards on this soft Dallas D? I know Engram is a rook in his first game, but it would great to see him with a big game too. I hope the defense plays with heavy hands and a nasty attitude!

Dallas sucks!
Steve Smith Sr. Was on NFL Network comparing Janoris Jenkins  
adamg : 9/10/2017 10:32 am : link
And Jason Sehorn. Said Jackrabbit will shutdown Dez like Sehorn did Irvin.

Pretty hilarious exchange between him and Irvin.
Just win, baby.  
Klaatu : 9/10/2017 10:36 am : link
With or without OBJ.
prescott helps jackrabbit cover dez also  
nygiants16 : 9/10/2017 10:38 am : link
jackrabbit is very good and a shut down corner but dak allows jenkins to under cut routes because there is no threat of a deep ball...

giants have 3 good corners and that helps in stopping the run game because they stack the box and dare dak to beat you...
season is a marathon not a sprint, I wouldn't risk Beckham aggravating  
Eric on Li : 9/10/2017 10:38 am : link
anything since high ankle sprains linger. This year they (may) have the personnel to establish a and running game and an overall offense that's not so dependent on one player, may as well start figuring out to what extent that can be a reality. Still have weapons all over the field with Marshall, Shepard, and Engram.
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/10/2017 10:42 am : link
Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet 7h7 hours ago

High-ankle sprains like Odell Beckham suffered can take 4 weeks to heal. Today marks fewer than 3. But there's more optimism today than Fri.

Kimberly Jones‏Verified account @KimJonesSports 2h2 hours ago

Odell Beckham Jr's ankle was sore yesterday after considerable amount of treatment he's getting. A game-time decision? "For sure," I'm told.
RE: ...  
nygiants16 : 9/10/2017 10:45 am : link
In comment 13589984 Eric from BBI said:
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Ian Rapoport‏Verified account @RapSheet 7h7 hours ago

High-ankle sprains like Odell Beckham suffered can take 4 weeks to heal. Today marks fewer than 3. But there's more optimism today than Fri.

Kimberly Jones‏Verified account @KimJonesSports 2h2 hours ago

Odell Beckham Jr's ankle was sore yesterday after considerable amount of treatment he's getting. A game-time decision? "For sure," I'm told.


i still dont believe it is high ankle...

but if he is still that sore if he can do more damage if he plays just sit him...

if it is just pain tolerance and he cant do more damage i think he plays...
Tonight finally answers a few questions....  
Doomster : 9/10/2017 10:47 am : link
How much does Marshall have left?

Will Double E be a player to reckoned with right out of the blocks?

Will Perkins be the man in the backfield?

Will TE's help this OL with blocking?

Can the Giants run the ball with the new players?

Which Eli shows up this season?

Can Rosas kick a last second pressure fg?

Will the defense be as strong, stronger, or will there be a slight drop off?

And of course, will this OL show improvement over last season?

Naturally, if OBj can't play or is limited, everyone else has to up their game.....

Dallas is at full strength on offense and Dak has a year under his belt.....he has a full playbook.....the Dallas offense will be better....

Their defense is suspect and has a lot of new parts.....Eli and the offense has to score points and take some of the pressure off the defense....

Nothing better than going into Dallas and winning one on the road, outside of the playoffs...
RE: season is a marathon not a sprint, I wouldn't risk Beckham aggravating  
Jersey55 : 9/10/2017 10:50 am : link
In comment 13589973 Eric on Li said:
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anything since high ankle sprains linger. This year they (may) have the personnel to establish a and running game and an overall offense that's not so dependent on one player, may as well start figuring out to what extent that can be a reality. Still have weapons all over the field with Marshall, Shepard, and Engram.

the addition of Marshall and Engram should be enough to let OBJ sit this game out.
Let's go!!  
nybeast : 9/10/2017 10:55 am : link
Just. One out of this games healthy! Long season that should be great if the pieces fall in place. I want to see how Goodson, Thompson, Apple, Hart, Flowers, Bromley, Tomlinson, and Perkins do tonight. These are the key players this season. Who among these will emerge as a breakout player this season? I will watching this group all year.
King  
Hilary : 9/10/2017 10:57 am : link
If the blocking holds up I look for Tavares King to have a big game. He has shown that he can get open for deep throws or out run the defense to the end zone after an intermediate route. Like him much more than Lewis
Let's go!!  
nybeast : 9/10/2017 10:58 am : link
Just come out of this game healthy! Long season that should be great if the pieces fall in place. I want to see how Goodson, Thompson, Apple, Hart, Flowers, Bromley, Tomlinson, and Perkins do tonight. These are the key players this season. Who among these will emerge as a breakout player this season? I will be watching this group all year.
Engram  
annexOPR : 9/10/2017 10:59 am : link
has an Odell like rookie impact and becomes a star Monday morning

(Please suit up Odell)
This certainly gives a new meaning to  
Rflairr : 9/10/2017 11:00 am : link
Minor ankle injury. Jeesh. It's been like 4 weeks
They need him out there  
Rflairr : 9/10/2017 11:01 am : link
Even if it's just as a decoy
Just a guess...  
M.S. : 9/10/2017 11:04 am : link

...(and assuming OBJ does NOT play), gotta feeling that the pass-oriented Giants will pass even more than usual.

And that has nothing to do with the effectiveness (or inadequacies) of the run game.

Giants will open it up from the get-go and they will live or die on how well their passing game clicks.

But one difference. It won't necessarily be a downfield passing attack, but numerous underneath passes with several throws to RBs.

Release  
area junc : 9/10/2017 11:06 am : link
the Kracken
OLine  
Mdgiantsfan : 9/10/2017 11:14 am : link
Whether Odell plays or not, it still boils down to the guys up front. We need a good effort from the OL. If we get that, then I think we have enough on offense to get it done.

Go Big Blue!!!
What we need is a Eli to play like a superstar  
UberAlias : 9/10/2017 11:19 am : link
Pocket presence don't get rattled, shift and slide, accurate throws and no bonehead mistakes.
This game is on the Offensive Line  
PatersonPlank : 9/10/2017 11:31 am : link
We know the D will play well
We know Eli, if given time by the OL, will play well
We know the WR's, if the OL gives them time, will get open
We know that Perkins will run, if the OL creates holes

Cut the crap OL. Its not about individual talent, which supposedly we have a lot of, its about functioning as a unit. No more missed assignments.
Honestly  
bigblue1124 : 9/10/2017 11:36 am : link
I am looking more forward to see this defense play a full game together rather than the O.

It goes without saying I hope the offense blows the doors off with or without OBJ but I still think this team goes as far as our D takes us.

This D can be real special this year providing the few new spot's can prove their worth? The MLB & DT position are still a question, as much as I like the players currently it's still a question mark. I am not as concerned with the back-end as many are and think we are solid more depth sure but every team wishes that.

Tonight I think Snacks is the key not with stopping the run but disrupting the pocket. I think Dak will be scrabbling left and right straight into JPP & OV's hands. The running game will be a non factor for them in this game IMO they will be forced to be one dimensional.


OBJ may be a Willis Reed situation. TD pass on the second play of the  
Ivan15 : 9/10/2017 12:06 pm : link
game and a decoy for the rest of the game.
Eli has some weapons and a great defense  
UberAlias : 9/10/2017 12:18 pm : link
Now go out and get a division win.
also remember  
nygiants16 : 9/10/2017 12:29 pm : link
cowboys are starting a new roght guard and new right tackle, i expect snacks and jpp to have big games
The only thing that will suck more than this being...  
M.S. : 9/10/2017 12:35 pm : link

...a night game, is all the f-ing bullshit we're gonna be subjected to regarding Zeke's non-suspension and OBJ's ankle.

Gonna suck.

But a Giants win would make it allllllll worthwhile!!!

I kinda feel the same way about King  
Bluesbreaker : 9/10/2017 12:39 pm : link
If he is healthy and in shape I think he can do enough to offset what we lose with OBJ . He is capable of getting
deep . Much will depend on the run game if we run the ball
effectively and can sustain some long drives convert some
early TD's our defense will give us the edge .
I'm watching our DTs  
George : 9/10/2017 12:40 pm : link
Against the left side of the Dallas line. They don't have a guard to put between Frederick and Smith, and Snacks/Bromley might have a big game tonight.
I really think  
Gregorio : 9/10/2017 12:41 pm : link
the key to this game will be long, sustained, clock eating drives on offense that keep the ball away from Dak and the Dallas O. Go dominate the time of possession.

Go Giants!
Marshall Faulk just now on the NFL Network:  
Mr. Bungle : 9/10/2017 12:43 pm : link
"The Cowboys' offensive line will dominate this game. I'm taking the Cowboys."

Hahahaha.
jay glazer seems to think  
nygiants16 : 9/10/2017 12:53 pm : link
beckham will try and play through it
I  
AcidTest : 9/10/2017 12:59 pm : link
expect the Cowboys to blitz Eli a lot if Beckham doesn't play. He's immobile, and they need to protect their secondary. I think Engram is the key. He immediately shows why the Giants picked him as he opens up the Cowboys defense down the middle of the field. The OL should be able to fend of a depleted Dallas front four.

Our defense should be able to control the Dallas O. We can pressure Prescott, and cover their WRs well enough. We do need to be careful about not over pursuing when Dak bootlegs, and on misdirection and screen plays.

Giants 30-16.
Up since 2:30 AM  
Sec 103 : 9/10/2017 1:03 pm : link
and hope I get a couple hour nap before this thing goes off tonite.
GO GIANTS !!!!!!!
Chris Carter spoke with Odell  
UberAlias : 9/10/2017 1:20 pm : link
Should have update shortly
I have a work meeting tonight  
Jay in Toronto : 9/10/2017 2:04 pm : link
:( :(
OBJ as Willis Reed!  
CT Charlie : 9/10/2017 2:26 pm : link
Sweet image. Play him in the green zone, and then throw to... Rhett Ellison.
This game is going to be an old fashioned NFC East fist fight  
GiantJake : 9/10/2017 2:36 pm : link
The Giants can expect the referees to provide the Cowboys with a hometown call or two. It will come down to the 4th quarter and probably be decided by a FG. Most would say that favors the Cowboys and Dan Bailey, but I'll say Giants rookie Aldrick Rosas is the hero and kicks the game winner late.
Chris Carter spoke w OBJ  
UberAlias : 9/10/2017 3:19 pm : link
Calling it 60/40
Apple needs to stay away  
Simms11 : 9/10/2017 3:35 pm : link
from blatant holds, Oline needs to stay poised, O needs to protect the Duke and whole team needs to be physical/heavy-handed, especially with Zeke.

Expect early jitters on both sides until teams get settled. Giants need to withstand early punch but Dallas with home fans getting loud on Sunday night national TV, as well.

Lastly, I want to see Engram become that TE that haunts Dallas for years to come, much like Witten has done to us!
Hopefully he sees the game Antonio Brown  
Rflairr : 9/10/2017 3:45 pm : link
Is having and it will inspire him to play :)
Theres an electricity in the air, folks.  
I'mRonBurgandy? : 9/10/2017 4:13 pm : link
A palpable hue of anticipation.

RE: Chris Carter spoke w OBJ  
dpinzow : 9/10/2017 4:17 pm : link
In comment 13590399 UberAlias said:
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Calling it 60/40


60/40 that Odell plays
damn if you do a good tape job on a sprained ankle you can hardly  
gtt350 : 9/10/2017 4:19 pm : link
feel it, at least that's how i remember it
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