need a young QB that can scramble. I like Eli but this OL isn't built for him.
Ok. Cuz teams are winning championships with scrambling QB's. How about sign a RG or RT and run the football. Passing lanes open and your defense can rest. The Giants used to be built like this. Now not so much.
spent a lot of resources on the OL, but there are still problems. Dallas also spent a lot of resources on its OL, and they are dominant. They really won this game. Prescott was the classic "game manager." We have a very good front four, and had a hard time getting to Dak.
Take for the Giants org. To realize offensive line is important. Every one on this board knows it but the GM DOESNT. Wtf
The Giants have relied too much on thinking that certain players would get better and chemistry would be a big difference. Well, I've seen nothing that would give me any indication that that theory was right. i think they could have done a much better job of bringing in more talent on the Oline, but just didn't happen.
As mentioned above, Eli can't mask the offensive line troubles. He's a statue which just enhances the issue. It's a disastrous combination & Odell has saved our ass on offense since 2014.
need a young QB that can scramble. I like Eli but this OL isn't built for him.
Ok. Cuz teams are winning championships with scrambling QB's. How about sign a RG or RT and run the football. Passing lanes open and your defense can rest. The Giants used to be built like this. Now not so much.
Eli is the least of our problems
How about the Giants won't do that. It's only been four years.
but tonight he is just as responsible for the pathetic performance as the O Line... even when not overly pressured he made bad throws, missed open receivers, threw behind or over receivers and generally looks as unathletic as a pro athlete could.
it will be interesting to see what happens if we are .500 through 8-10 games and Eli isn't playing very well.
Holly hell... how in the world this guy isn't the feature of this offense is completely bizarre. And Brandon Marshall not being the feature target in the game is completely McAdoo's fault.
This jackass has multiple handles. Unless of course two *huge* Trainspotting fans both signed up for accounts at the same fucking time.
Having multiple handles and trolling isn't against the rules, unless you happen to mention the CiC or Randy (or God forbid, both in the same sentence).
but tonight he is just as responsible for the pathetic performance as the O Line... even when not overly pressured he made bad throws, missed open receivers, threw behind or over receivers and generally looks as unathletic as a pro athlete could.
it will be interesting to see what happens if we are .500 through 8-10 games and Eli isn't playing very well.
Yea having a bad oline for what 6 straight years can't be good for your confidence
agree that Eli being a statute compounds the problems of a poor OL, but he is not being benched. That is crazy. And do you really want Smith? Webb isn't even close to ready. Make some changes to the OL. Jerry for Jones, and maybe Wheeler for Hart. Remember with OL, you need very large men with fast feet. That is a really rare combination.
O-line was as expected.. Bad, very bad. No run game at all, no backs can mke a play. Skill players outside of OBJ are purely compliment pieces and are not as good as advertised once OBJ is off the field. Defense was solid but didnt knock my socks off once today. Horrible opening game.
Ok. Cuz teams are winning championships with scrambling QB's. How about sign a RG or RT and run the football. Passing lanes open and your defense can rest. The Giants used to be built like this. Now not so much.
Eli is the least of our problems
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its starting to seem pretty clear
Captain check down the entire first half and an awful throw to gift wrap the game for Dallas
That's a little unfair. This is the offense: get the ball out quickly and check down. Eli is just doing what he is supposed to do in this offense.
He's missing dump offs and behind guys. It's been that way since the home Redskin game. He's 36, not 26.
How is it his fault? 2 targets and 2 bad throws. Eli makes an accurate pass on the 2nd target and it's a 30 yard gain.
Eli can't keep looking for Shep and Engram
Eli wasn't great but he is a product of this line and has been for years now. Reese should have been gone years ago for ruining Elis prime years.
Yep. Biggest shocker for me tonight. Everyone knows the OL sucks but I never would've guessed Marshall would be invisible and not even compete.
He's a complete back. Someone Reese has not managed to ever draft.
The Giants have relied too much on thinking that certain players would get better and chemistry would be a big difference. Well, I've seen nothing that would give me any indication that that theory was right. i think they could have done a much better job of bringing in more talent on the Oline, but just didn't happen.
The OL is the problem. Not Marshall. Not "the scheme". They can't block for shit.
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need a young QB that can scramble. I like Eli but this OL isn't built for him.
Ok. Cuz teams are winning championships with scrambling QB's. How about sign a RG or RT and run the football. Passing lanes open and your defense can rest. The Giants used to be built like this. Now not so much.
Eli is the least of our problems
How about the Giants won't do that. It's only been four years.
Yes, seriously. He cannot be worse.
I have not heard or seen Flowers' name called which is generally a good thing for a LT). Anyone have any thoughts on his play?
"Hold our beers"
-Giants OL
More like three years
but tonight he is just as responsible for the pathetic performance as the O Line... even when not overly pressured he made bad throws, missed open receivers, threw behind or over receivers and generally looks as unathletic as a pro athlete could.
it will be interesting to see what happens if we are .500 through 8-10 games and Eli isn't playing very well.
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Should be ashamed of himself tonight
How is it his fault? 2 targets and 2 bad throws. Eli makes an accurate pass on the 2nd target and it's a 30 yard gain.
Eli can't keep looking for Shep and Engram
How is it his fault? Zero effort and zero separation all night long.
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He's useless.
This jackass has multiple handles. Unless of course two *huge* Trainspotting fans both signed up for accounts at the same fucking time.
Having multiple handles and trolling isn't against the rules, unless you happen to mention the CiC or Randy (or God forbid, both in the same sentence).
Ah shit...
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Should be ashamed of himself tonight
How is it his fault? 2 targets and 2 bad throws. Eli makes an accurate pass on the 2nd target and it's a 30 yard gain.
Eli can't keep looking for Shep and Engram
not looking, staring them down. They coached that in the Dallas game prep and was blatantly obvious. Compounded by no looks for Marshall.
but tonight he is just as responsible for the pathetic performance as the O Line... even when not overly pressured he made bad throws, missed open receivers, threw behind or over receivers and generally looks as unathletic as a pro athlete could.
it will be interesting to see what happens if we are .500 through 8-10 games and Eli isn't playing very well.
Yea having a bad oline for what 6 straight years can't be good for your confidence
Have they actually regressed? Is that possible?
What a shitty night. Just completely bummed.
Go F yourself
ol....that is pathetic. really no sugar coating it like it will be during the week. excuses
eli....which has progressed on account of failure of ol and now age showing some cracks
ol....that is pathetic. really no sugar coating it like it will be during the week. excuses
eli....which has digressed on account of failure of ol and now age showing some cracks
he is looking at year 2 regress. Would not be surprised if we have a losing season and he is fired. Spags would likely do a better job at the helm.