for display only
Big Blue Interactive The Corner Forum  
Back to the Corner

Archived Thread

New York Giants - Dallas Cowboys Game Discussion Thread

gidiefor : Mod : 9/10/2017 8:17 pm
Go Giants!
Pages: 1 2 3 ... 35 36 37 <<Prev | Show All |  Next>>
RE: The Giants  
Rjanyg : 9/10/2017 11:09 pm : link
In comment 13592644 sb2003 said:
Quote:
need a young QB that can scramble. I like Eli but this OL isn't built for him.


Ok. Cuz teams are winning championships with scrambling QB's. How about sign a RG or RT and run the football. Passing lanes open and your defense can rest. The Giants used to be built like this. Now not so much.

Eli is the least of our problems
RE: RE: Eli isn't Eli anymore  
The_Boss : 9/10/2017 11:09 pm : link
In comment 13592638 HomerJones45 said:
Quote:
In comment 13592599 redbeard said:


Quote:


its starting to seem pretty clear

Captain check down the entire first half and an awful throw to gift wrap the game for Dallas

That's a little unfair. This is the offense: get the ball out quickly and check down. Eli is just doing what he is supposed to do in this offense.


He's missing dump offs and behind guys. It's been that way since the home Redskin game. He's 36, not 26.
RE: Brandon Marshall  
jestersdead : 9/10/2017 11:10 pm : link
In comment 13592664 The 12th Man said:
Quote:
Should be ashamed of himself tonight

How is it his fault? 2 targets and 2 bad throws. Eli makes an accurate pass on the 2nd target and it's a 30 yard gain.

Eli can't keep looking for Shep and Engram
All night Papa and Banks are pointing out  
BlueHurricane : 9/10/2017 11:10 pm : link
That Eli is getting hit before he is finished with his drop and u guys want to blame Eli.

Eli wasn't great but he is a product of this line and has been for years now. Reese should have been gone years ago for ruining Elis prime years.
RE: Brandon Marshall  
WillVAB : 9/10/2017 11:10 pm : link
In comment 13592664 The 12th Man said:
Quote:
Should be ashamed of himself tonight


Yep. Biggest shocker for me tonight. Everyone knows the OL sucks but I never would've guessed Marshall would be invisible and not even compete.
Remember the game OBJ sat out against Minnesota  
Essex : 9/10/2017 11:10 pm : link
a couple a years ago, this game reminded me of that one.
0-1  
Sec 103 : 9/10/2017 11:10 pm : link
15 to go. Gotta git better can't get any worse.... can we?
we got lucky as it seems nobody got hurt on defense  
32_Razor : 9/10/2017 11:10 pm : link
with all the time they were on the field. Defense earned their paychecks tonight
Reese  
AcidTest : 9/10/2017 11:10 pm : link
spent a lot of resources on the OL, but there are still problems. Dallas also spent a lot of resources on its OL, and they are dominant. They really won this game. Prescott was the classic "game manager." We have a very good front four, and had a hard time getting to Dak.
RE: Elliot just over 100 for the game......  
nybeast : 9/10/2017 11:10 pm : link
In comment 13592656 Simms11 said:
Quote:
4.6 yards a carry with a long of 10. They just keeping feeding him and he just keeps falling forward for 4 to 5


He's a complete back. Someone Reese has not managed to ever draft.
If this game doesn't result in some changes on  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/10/2017 11:10 pm : link
the OL, what will?
RE: What does it  
Simms11 : 9/10/2017 11:10 pm : link
In comment 13592663 cokeduplt said:
Quote:
Take for the Giants org. To realize offensive line is important. Every one on this board knows it but the GM DOESNT. Wtf


The Giants have relied too much on thinking that certain players would get better and chemistry would be a big difference. Well, I've seen nothing that would give me any indication that that theory was right. i think they could have done a much better job of bringing in more talent on the Oline, but just didn't happen.
The biggest issue..  
Sean : 9/10/2017 11:10 pm : link
As mentioned above, Eli can't mask the offensive line troubles. He's a statue which just enhances the issue. It's a disastrous combination & Odell has saved our ass on offense since 2014.
1. Eli is fading  
annexOPR : 9/10/2017 11:11 pm : link
2. This OL will force him into early retirement

The OL is the problem. Not Marshall. Not "the scheme". They can't block for shit.
Brandon Marshall  
The 12th Man : 9/10/2017 11:11 pm : link
Will catch a pass now in this last drive to keep his streak alive. If it was me I would not throw him the ball.
RE: RE: The Giants  
sb2003 : 9/10/2017 11:11 pm : link
In comment 13592681 Rjanyg said:
Quote:
In comment 13592644 sb2003 said:


Quote:


need a young QB that can scramble. I like Eli but this OL isn't built for him.




Ok. Cuz teams are winning championships with scrambling QB's. How about sign a RG or RT and run the football. Passing lanes open and your defense can rest. The Giants used to be built like this. Now not so much.

Eli is the least of our problems


How about the Giants won't do that. It's only been four years.
Marshall didn't competge because he is too old  
32_Razor : 9/10/2017 11:11 pm : link
He is an old man
Giants offense owes us 3 hours of our life back.  
Pete in CO : 9/10/2017 11:11 pm : link
Pretty tough to watch.
let's go Packers  
gtt350 : 9/10/2017 11:11 pm : link
.
I fucking HATE DallASS!  
Simms11 : 9/10/2017 11:12 pm : link
Eagles even more, but Dallas is pretty bad. This is just no fun and to start the season this way really SUCKS!
RE: welp  
DisgruntledGiantsfan : 9/10/2017 11:12 pm : link
In comment 13592608 SHO'NUFF said:
Quote:
that's all she wrote. if they can't figure out that Brett Jones is superior to John Jerry, then we're all fucked.


Yes, seriously. He cannot be worse.

I have not heard or seen Flowers' name called which is generally a good thing for a LT). Anyone have any thoughts on his play?

RE: 0-1  
j_rud : 9/10/2017 11:12 pm : link
In comment 13592689 Sec 103 said:
Quote:
15 to go. Gotta git better can't get any worse.... can we?


"Hold our beers"

-Giants OL
RE: Giants offense owes us 3 hours of our life back.  
Reb8thVA : 9/10/2017 11:12 pm : link
In comment 13592704 Pete in CO said:
Quote:
Pretty tough to watch.


More like three years
eli might be feeling long term effects  
LG in NYC : 9/10/2017 11:12 pm : link
from years of bad O line play..

but tonight he is just as responsible for the pathetic performance as the O Line... even when not overly pressured he made bad throws, missed open receivers, threw behind or over receivers and generally looks as unathletic as a pro athlete could.

it will be interesting to see what happens if we are .500 through 8-10 games and Eli isn't playing very well.

I think  
cokeduplt : 9/10/2017 11:12 pm : link
Dave Diehl right now is better than Hart
RE: RE: Brandon Marshall  
WillVAB : 9/10/2017 11:12 pm : link
In comment 13592684 jestersdead said:
Quote:
In comment 13592664 The 12th Man said:


Quote:


Should be ashamed of himself tonight


How is it his fault? 2 targets and 2 bad throws. Eli makes an accurate pass on the 2nd target and it's a 30 yard gain.

Eli can't keep looking for Shep and Engram


How is it his fault? Zero effort and zero separation all night long.
Preseason does show you how good the first team is going to be  
SomeFan : 9/10/2017 11:12 pm : link
and it showed that pir first team offense is going to be horrible
Marshall's fault?  
trueblueinpw : 9/10/2017 11:13 pm : link
Holly hell... how in the world this guy isn't the feature of this offense is completely bizarre. And Brandon Marshall not being the feature target in the game is completely McAdoo's fault.
IIRC  
j_rud : 9/10/2017 11:13 pm : link
All but two drives began inside the 15
RE: RE: Marshall will be cut by week 6  
jcn56 : 9/10/2017 11:13 pm : link
In comment 13592655 j_rud said:
Quote:
In comment 13592625 Renton said:


Quote:


He's useless.



This jackass has multiple handles. Unless of course two *huge* Trainspotting fans both signed up for accounts at the same fucking time.


Having multiple handles and trolling isn't against the rules, unless you happen to mention the CiC or Randy (or God forbid, both in the same sentence).

Ah shit...
OMG, Odell with a Repose look on sideline  
32_Razor : 9/10/2017 11:13 pm : link
He is so beautiful. Look at those tattoos and hair. So beautiful
RE: RE: Brandon Marshall  
mdc1 : 9/10/2017 11:13 pm : link
In comment 13592684 jestersdead said:
Quote:
In comment 13592664 The 12th Man said:


Quote:


Should be ashamed of himself tonight


How is it his fault? 2 targets and 2 bad throws. Eli makes an accurate pass on the 2nd target and it's a 30 yard gain.

Eli can't keep looking for Shep and Engram


not looking, staring them down. They coached that in the Dallas game prep and was blatantly obvious. Compounded by no looks for Marshall.
RE: eli might be feeling long term effects  
cokeduplt : 9/10/2017 11:13 pm : link
In comment 13592714 LG in NYC said:
Quote:
from years of bad O line play..

but tonight he is just as responsible for the pathetic performance as the O Line... even when not overly pressured he made bad throws, missed open receivers, threw behind or over receivers and generally looks as unathletic as a pro athlete could.

it will be interesting to see what happens if we are .500 through 8-10 games and Eli isn't playing very well.




Yea having a bad oline for what 6 straight years can't be good for your confidence
Huge failure by MacAdoo  
jsuds : 9/10/2017 11:13 pm : link
He should have challenged the spot on the Dallas 3rd down spot on their first drive. Cost Giants the game.
I  
AcidTest : 9/10/2017 11:13 pm : link
agree that Eli being a statute compounds the problems of a poor OL, but he is not being benched. That is crazy. And do you really want Smith? Webb isn't even close to ready. Make some changes to the OL. Jerry for Jones, and maybe Wheeler for Hart. Remember with OL, you need very large men with fast feet. That is a really rare combination.
This OL  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/10/2017 11:14 pm : link
Just a complete joke.

Have they actually regressed? Is that possible?

What a shitty night. Just completely bummed.
RE: Why are they even bothering?  
map7711 : 9/10/2017 11:14 pm : link
In comment 13592678 Hereditaryemperor said:
Quote:
I mean its funny to see FMIC at like a whiner but my god


Go F yourself
three things that this offense lives on  
micky : 9/10/2017 11:14 pm : link
obj...for big play..

ol....that is pathetic. really no sugar coating it like it will be during the week. excuses

eli....which has progressed on account of failure of ol and now age showing some cracks

Offense has been bad for a while  
UberAlias : 9/10/2017 11:14 pm : link
If you're excusing anyone you are not being realistic. There is plenty of blaim to go around.
Someone explain to me how Dallas has 2-3 guys  
montanagiant : 9/10/2017 11:14 pm : link
Within 2 yards of anyone that catches a ball
RE: three things that this offense lives on  
micky : 9/10/2017 11:14 pm : link
In comment 13592730 micky said:
Quote:
obj...for big play..

ol....that is pathetic. really no sugar coating it like it will be during the week. excuses

eli....which has digressed on account of failure of ol and now age showing some cracks
Actually  
cokeduplt : 9/10/2017 11:15 pm : link
Looked worse than the jets
bhahah and now you heard his name  
gtt350 : 9/10/2017 11:15 pm : link
.
We  
AcidTest : 9/10/2017 11:15 pm : link
were not competitive. McAdoo made no personnel adjustments in the second half. Should have benched Jerry, and used Darkwa and Lewis more.
Eli played timid and missed on a few throws  
est1986 : 9/10/2017 11:15 pm : link
O-line was as expected.. Bad, very bad. No run game at all, no backs can mke a play. Skill players outside of OBJ are purely compliment pieces and are not as good as advertised once OBJ is off the field. Defense was solid but didnt knock my socks off once today. Horrible opening game.
Maybe  
cokeduplt : 9/10/2017 11:15 pm : link
We'll get Sam Darnold next year
Manning missing a ton of throws  
Sonic Youth : 9/10/2017 11:15 pm : link
This is not good. For the first time in a while I'm questioning if Eli lost it
RE: Huge failure by MacAdoo  
mdc1 : 9/10/2017 11:15 pm : link
In comment 13592726 jsuds said:
Quote:
He should have challenged the spot on the Dallas 3rd down spot on their first drive. Cost Giants the game.


he is looking at year 2 regress. Would not be surprised if we have a losing season and he is fired. Spags would likely do a better job at the helm.
Just pitiful  
Simms11 : 9/10/2017 11:16 pm : link
.
RE: Someone explain to me how Dallas has 2-3 guys  
HomerJones45 : 9/10/2017 11:16 pm : link
In comment 13592734 montanagiant said:
Quote:
Within 2 yards of anyone that catches a ball
They have team speed; we don't
Pages: 1 2 3 ... 35 36 37 <<Prev | Show All |  Next>>
Back to the Corner