most of the games, lucky bounces, and other teams struggles, this team isn't going anywhere with this ol, and Eli regressing..and lack of running game..period.
leads the team n receiving yardage albeit much of it in garbage time. Sad statement.
Once again, as has been the case for several seasons, they will live and die with the OL. Unfortunately it's difficult to imagine much of a change there considering the personnel.
which is a big if, we might make the game a little more competitive, but Detroit can do the same thing to us that Dallas just did and they have a better QB. Then on to Philly, in Philly the following weekend and boy that will be a joy going up against their Dline in Philly! We might be 1-2 in 3 weeks if this offense doesn't wake up soon!
Fool us twice shame on us ! The one real so-called upgrade to the OL wasn't even active for the game. Why should we expect anything different from last year when practically nothing has changed!
It all starts with the OL - look at how crappy Brady looked too
Eli hit 75% of his passes, but for only 211 yds. The line just won't give enough time to get down the field. This makes defense very easy for the opponent.
McAdoo was supposed to be some kind of offensive coach?
Sucks. We are going no where again this year. For some reason Jerry doesn't like to address the main issue on this team. Year after year. Time for him to go.
I think that we have not had nearly enough game time in the pre-seasons and it was unfortunate that we went up against an offense that wins on chewing up the TOP. In the second half we seemed to get into a bit of a rythm but did not capitalize on our first opportunity to score. My biggest concern is Eli who seemed afraid out there.
When asked if Marshall was targeted down at the endzone he said, "definitely, he was part of the progression". But, my question would be, why wasn't BM the first read down there on at least one play?
which is a big if, we might make the game a little more competitive, but Detroit can do the same thing to us that Dallas just did and they have a better QB. Then on to Philly, in Philly the following weekend and boy that will be a joy going up against their Dline in Philly! We might be 1-2 in 3 weeks if this offense doesn't wake up soon!
0-3 is more of a possibility
The bad OL play beat them into submission by start of
But I've got little good to say about the Cowboys either. Dak Prescott isn't a good QB. Their defense isn't a good defense (even if it's better than our offense). Their OL won the game and their tackles deserve huge credit for shutting down JPP and OV. I don't think you'll see that again this year.
In 1986, the Giants opened against the Cowboys. Late in the game Herschel Walker seemed to run wild and the Cowboys won. I called my father and ranted on the phone about how the Giants had passed on Walker and drafted Tyrone Davis (who never amounted to anything) and that was why they would NEVER win the Super Bowl. I was steaming.
But, as I said, that was 1986. A few months later, they were carrying Parcells off the field in Pasadena and collecting a Lombardi trophy.
The moral of that story, for me anyway: Don't panic. Enjoy football. But stay calm and keep watching.
RE: RE: McAdoo getting annoyed at the OL questions
it is football 101 that it all starts up front, and yet we come into this year with this OL after clearly sucking on OL last year. And this is with the least mobile QB in the NFL, so logic would dictate putting a great line in front of him.I was willing to wait and see if Flowers really improved or the line gelled. But, early returns are in: we blow. Our C gets shoved back. The right side of our line spends most of the game yelling "lookout!" So El gets jumpy, and we can't get out of our own way. As a bonus, they can't run block either. They couldn't open a hole with a crowbar.
We have a solid D, but this looked like the bad old days of Kanell and Co. sucking on O while the D tries to hold on by their fingernails. Just awful.
In 1986, the Giants opened against the Cowboys. Late in the game Herschel Walker seemed to run wild and the Cowboys won. I called my father and ranted on the phone about how the Giants had passed on Walker and drafted Tyrone Davis (who never amounted to anything) and that was why they would NEVER win the Super Bowl. I was steaming.
But, as I said, that was 1986. A few months later, they were carrying Parcells off the field in Pasadena and collecting a Lombardi trophy.
The moral of that story, for me anyway: Don't panic. Enjoy football. But stay calm and keep watching.
it is hard to know what to do. To me, you have got to make a drastic change. Brett Jones needs to be on the field. He is just average, but he is smart, and we could use somebody not making stupid mistakes. Put Pugh at LT, Wheeler at RT and Jones to Guard. How much worse could they be?
1. Our best player, OBJ.
2. A real running back that can move the chains.
3. An OL that includes a RT on roller skates.
4. A QB who follows up his best play with his worst
5. A defense that never looked close to as dominant as advertised, or even close to what they looked like last year towards most of the end of the season.
This Oline just continually gets pushed back......
When you look at the replays, they aren't moving forward, but being pushed back. You wonder why Eli can't function when someone is running free at him or an OLineman is getting pushed right back into him. There's not a solid pocket. I'm starting to really be concerned with Richburg and of course Jerry, as well. Hart could also be a culprit.
Once I heard OBJ was a no go my enthusiasm for this game definitely declined a ton. Simply put we are not going on the road in prime time and beating a solid NFL team without him. Nothing to be ashamed of, The Steelers would have a hard time without AB, the Falcons the same with Julio Jones, buts its even worse with us because he's that much more of what we do. Its just not happening. Do we have problems on offense beyond that especially with the O-line? Of course. End of the day though this season doesn't start for me until he plays. Until then we are just biding time as pretenders.
Next week is pretty much a must win with a trip to Philly and their scumbag fans looming. They would want nothing more than to put our season on the brink at 0-3.
This!!
Was right.
Can't say I'm surprised. Apparently the only folks who thought the OL was good enough were NYG coaches and their idiot GM.
It's a long season.
But the way the offense played tonight, it looks like it might be a looooooong season.
The Giants have wasted years with this OL.
Once again, as has been the case for several seasons, they will live and die with the OL. Unfortunately it's difficult to imagine much of a change there considering the personnel.
Offense was playing the preseason game in replacement of the ones the starters sat out.
Fucking offensive coaching/game-planning/play-calling/in-game adjustment seems to be nonexistent.
Hopefully that is the dose of reality they need to get off their asses and go.
0-3 is more of a possibility
Seriously? The OL sucks. What does he think people are going to ask questions about?
STFU...ban this troll
But, as I said, that was 1986. A few months later, they were carrying Parcells off the field in Pasadena and collecting a Lombardi trophy.
The moral of that story, for me anyway: Don't panic. Enjoy football. But stay calm and keep watching.
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What the fuck did he think they were going to ask?
Seriously? The OL sucks. What does he think people are going to ask questions about?
If this was Parcells he'd say yes the OL sucks, and if they don't improve we'll be bringing in all new players.
I am not convinced that we have the best players starting.
The 1st half play calls were a joke.
The Cowboys seem to want it more....
OL was not the only problem
Out coached in all 3 phases.
Dallas have half their players suspended, most are new and their defense out played ours.
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What the fuck did he think they were going to ask?
Seriously? The OL sucks. What does he think people are going to ask questions about?
he has to say positive toward them or defend them.
but behind doors if he doesn't come down hard on them..then he needs to reevaluate himself
We have a solid D, but this looked like the bad old days of Kanell and Co. sucking on O while the D tries to hold on by their fingernails. Just awful.
But, as I said, that was 1986. A few months later, they were carrying Parcells off the field in Pasadena and collecting a Lombardi trophy.
The moral of that story, for me anyway: Don't panic. Enjoy football. But stay calm and keep watching.
Happened in 07 too
1. Our best player, OBJ.
2. A real running back that can move the chains.
3. An OL that includes a RT on roller skates.
4. A QB who follows up his best play with his worst
5. A defense that never looked close to as dominant as advertised, or even close to what they looked like last year towards most of the end of the season.