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The Giants have not scored 30 points

nyjuggernaut2 : 9/11/2017 12:16 am
during McAdoo's tenure as head coach (18 games now and counting).

However, in the two seasons McAdoo was the O.C. (32 games), the team scored 30 or more points 13 times.
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BleedBlue : 9/11/2017 12:17 am : link
yea something doesnt add up....elis decline? OL regression? too much responsibilty on BM and he cannot focus on just play calling?

all good questions/concerns.

Haven't scored 20 or more since before thanksgiving  
The_Boss : 9/11/2017 12:18 am : link
Unbelievable
I'd settle for double-digits at this rate  
SHO'NUFF : 9/11/2017 12:22 am : link
10 points would've been good. An offensive TD and field goal.
I'm obviously no coach so I'm just speculating  
j_rud : 9/11/2017 12:22 am : link
but you've gotta wonder about Coughlins influence on the playcalling. McAdoo's offense within Coughlin's philosophy was really, really good. Eli had some of his best years and they regularly put up points. Now they look like their cleats are tied together.
TC had is Hands on the offense, as well, didn't he?  
Canton : 9/11/2017 12:22 am : link
I don't think it was all McAdoo when we scored those 30+ points a game .
People keep talking about this like:  
Giants_West : 9/11/2017 12:31 am : link
former offensive coordinators get promoted, try to call plays, fail, pc duties stripped, stand alone oc gets hired; is some uncommon thing.

It has happened a bunch of times in the past, often with positive results.

What continues to puzzle me as with almost everything of the Eli/Coughlin/Reese/Mac era, is why everything needs to take so fucking long when these problems seem so god damn obvious to everyone else
Wow.  
DennyInDenville : 9/11/2017 12:38 am : link
Very telling.


Macadoo is officially on the hot seat if the Giants finish below .500 imo
Maybe he needs time.  
TC : 9/11/2017 12:44 am : link
The Giants fired an ineffective OC. His name was Sean Payton. Belichick bombed in Cleveland. Spags bombed with the Rams and Saints, but is putting together good D's again.

I didn't like Benny Mac when he was OC, but hoped for the best as HC. Let's see if he's smart enough to scout himself and make some changes. He's done some good stuff.
We have the weapons  
old man : 9/11/2017 2:24 am : link
Even with a declining Eli.
What we don't have is an OL that he has any confidence in to make the necessary passes comfortably or the runners to run effectively.
This team should be able to put up 30 on a bad day, if the OL wasn't so weak and porous. Thanks JR.
The really disturbing fact regarding the 30 points  
montanagiant : 9/11/2017 2:55 am : link
Is that the Giants the last year they did that had an Offense that had nobodies on Offense at the end of the year. And yet we still managed to make something happen
Truth be told  
blueblood'11 : 9/11/2017 6:24 am : link
Everyone wants to dump on the offensive line and I guess rightfully so but can anyone really tell what this guys offensive philosophy is. All we ever see are shallow crossing routes nothing vertical and a feeble attempt to run the ball. The defenses are packed in so tight against the offense Eli has nowhere to go with the ball. They took only one shot down the field.

I would like to start a petition to get rid of Mike Sullivan and bring back Kevin Gilbride. This offense is non existent.
That s not  
joeinpa : 9/11/2017 6:26 am : link
A very good resume
We will definitely get to 30 points this season  
Jimmy Googs : 9/11/2017 6:30 am : link
Probably around game 4...


It feels like they've gone way backwards..  
Sean : 9/11/2017 6:50 am : link
Even in early 2014 when Odell wasn't playing, the offense had its moments of taking shots down the field. I think Odell masks so many problems, but it is strange how inept the offense is now. Teams like the Jets & Browns can put together sustained drives.
Jimmy Googs  
blueblood'11 : 9/11/2017 7:00 am : link
Yeah that will be the total number of points they will have scored in all four games combined. When you look at some of the better defenses they are going to go up against what chance does this offense have.
Jimmy  
blueblood'11 : 9/11/2017 7:02 am : link
Sorry, I misinterpreted your post. I agree. They will have totaled at least 30 points combined by game four.
That's what I don't get  
BillT : 9/11/2017 7:02 am : link
This offense led to two of Eli's best seasons. And those OLs weren't filled with pro bowlers.
We were much more vertical  
regulator : 9/11/2017 7:05 am : link
in preseason against NE when Sullivan was calling the plays.

For whatever it's worth.
RE: Jimmy  
Jimmy Googs : 9/11/2017 7:22 am : link
In comment 13593275 blueblood'11 said:
Quote:
Sorry, I misinterpreted your post. I agree. They will have totaled at least 30 points combined by game four.


man, i thought it was kind of funny for a gloomy monday...

We're dealing with a perfect storm here  
UberAlias : 9/11/2017 7:28 am : link
Non-creative/Predictable play calling, Immobile QB playing without confidence behind a horrendous Oline without support of a running game.
RE: We're dealing with a perfect storm here  
map7711 : 9/11/2017 7:35 am : link
In comment 13593295 UberAlias said:
Quote:
Non-creative/Predictable play calling, Immobile QB playing without confidence behind a horrendous Oline without support of a running game.


Absolutely correct!! The booth mentioned last nite how we ran the same personnel last yr something like 90% of the time. Thusly the opposition can practice against that formation only. Makes it real easy to game plan. Plus add in the o line, and no running game-that spells disaster
The reason we hired McAdoo as our head coach..  
EricJ : 9/11/2017 7:42 am : link
(at least the reason tossed around here anyway) was to have some consistency for Eli. So, Eli would not have to have a new guy come on and possibly have a new system, etc.

At this point, that would have been a better option. The offense has regressed under McAdoo.
A lot of changes coming for this team  
32_Razor : 9/11/2017 7:58 am : link
On offense. Mac has to put fluke and Jones on ol, darkwa is better option at rb, promote Travis Rudolph since Odell looks to be out for another month. I don't want to hear Travis doesn't play specials
RE: Haven't scored 20 or more since before thanksgiving  
jeff57 : 9/11/2017 8:04 am : link
In comment 13593131 The_Boss said:
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Unbelievable


Dating back to Week 13 of last year, the Giants haven't cracked the 20-point mark a single time, which is a span of seven games including the playoffs and this year's season opener
It's  
AcidTest : 9/11/2017 8:57 am : link
pretty damning.
RE: We're dealing with a perfect storm here  
AcidTest : 9/11/2017 8:57 am : link
In comment 13593295 UberAlias said:
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Non-creative/Predictable play calling, Immobile QB playing without confidence behind a horrendous Oline without support of a running game.


Agreed.
Hire Gilbride!  
spike : 9/11/2017 8:59 am : link
!!!!
D-co's around the NFL are laughing at McAdoo  
trueblueinpw : 9/11/2017 8:59 am : link
He's pathetic.
I like Macadoo as a HC  
beatrixkiddo : 9/11/2017 10:07 am : link
Minus his involvement in play calling and how he runs this Offense. It's pathetic, you can't coach scared. It's the same shit as last year, he needs to make changes and not be afraid to be aggressive on offense, I fear he has coughlins stubbornness and won't be willing to change. Who knows, he made some adjustments that I liked after the half. But I scratch my head saying how could you come into this game so unprepared. If he doesn't step it up, The front office needs to threaten takin away his responsibilities as a play caller and hire an OC.
RE: I like Macadoo as a HC  
spike : 9/11/2017 10:58 pm : link
In comment 13593701 beatrixkiddo said:
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Minus his involvement in play calling and how he runs this Offense. It's pathetic, you can't coach scared. It's the same shit as last year, he needs to make changes and not be afraid to be aggressive on offense, I fear he has coughlins stubbornness and won't be willing to change. Who knows, he made some adjustments that I liked after the half. But I scratch my head saying how could you come into this game so unprepared. If he doesn't step it up, The front office needs to threaten takin away his responsibilities as a play caller and hire an OC.


We have a fuckin OC. His name is Sullivan. He needs to be fired.
I would've preferred  
BigBlueWhale : 9/11/2017 11:14 pm : link
Adam Gase, rumored to be on our short list. Excellent system that really attacks. The Dolphins have an interesting offense to watch if you ever catch them. He is hands down a better offensive coach than McAdoo based on merit and it's not close.
McAdoo is not calling the same offense  
Matt M. : 9/11/2017 11:20 pm : link
he did when OC. TheIt's his gameplans and playcalling.
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