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Realistic changes to the OL

The_Taxman : 9/11/2017 12:37 pm
We can't expect to do anything this year with last night's dismal play from the OL. Yes, Eli was bad but he's shell shocked. The right side of the pocket collapsed within 3 seconds all night long. That wears on a QB physically and mentally. Changes need to be made before Monday night. It's beyond ridiculous to wait any longer. Jerry is horrible and not getting any better. Hart was a 7th round pick for a reason. I don't see the potential in him that others do. Now what can we realistically do to better this mess of an o-line?

We worked out John Greco last week. If he's healthy, I would sign him and plug him in at RG. I'd also bench Hart and give Wheeler a shot at RT.

Another possibility, if Greco isn't fully healthy or didn't have a great work out with us, is to make changes internally. I'm still not sold on Flowers as a LT. I think he could be an effective mauling run blocking RG since he wouldn't have to always concentrate on his footwork. So move Flowers to RG, kick Pugh outside to LT, put Jones at LG, and give Wheeler a shot at RT.

Something has to be done with this OL. Sitting around waiting for this unit to get better as constituted is going to ruin this season.
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Tim in Eternal Blue : 9/11/2017 4:24 pm : link
That was legit JJ, all night last night.
RE: If trading isn't an option,  
GiantTuff1 : 9/11/2017 4:29 pm : link
In comment 13594416 Go Terps said:
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then I'm starting the Detroit game with Wheeler at left tackle, Jones at right guard, and Fluker at right tackle.

There isn't a guy on this offensive line that should feel like he deserves his job.


I agree, SOMETHING has to be done this is ridiculous.

Jerry needs to ride the pine that much is absolutely necessary...

Even
Pugh Jones Richburg Fluker Flowers

With Jones or Fluker flippable between LG and RG... whoever is most comfortable... Hart can renter the Guard discussion if one of Jones or Fluker stars failing...

Nobody should be safe with their job, and fear should motivate.

Not sure if I'd throw Wheeler out there just yet... that might be even more of a train wreck, but I guess if the O-line is going to go down in a flaming heap might as well work the experience angle and if he starts doing well that would be heartwarming.
RE: The time for multiple changes/experimentation was during preseason  
Watson : 9/11/2017 4:31 pm : link
In comment 13594578 Watson said:
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that time is over. Other than Hart getting some 1st team snaps, there was none of it. There was no experimentation of what 5 guys made the best combination. It seem to me the coaching staff bought into the conventional wisdom that last year's line just needed more time together. If that was the plan, they should have had more snaps in preseason games. Did anyone really think they were ready?

I'm certainly no expert and will concede to those who know better, that Hart didn't grade out better than Jerry. However, to my eye the unit as whole played better with Hart. He maybe lacking in strength but he plays smart and hangs in there more than one can say about Jerry. He's clearly the weakest link.

At this point other than signing another vet., replacing Jerry with Hart is the only viable option. If Hart isn't given 1st team snaps in this week's practices, McAdoo brings a whole new meaning to the word stubborn.


Oops meant Jones in my comments not Hart.
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Beer Man : 9/11/2017 5:03 pm : link
In comment 13594630 Tim in Eternal Blue said:
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That was legit JJ, all night last night.
What's just as bad in that clip is that Newhouse, Jerry , and Rich are all standing their and watching their RB get slammed to the ground
Jerry is a problem, but he isn't the only one  
Go Terps : 9/11/2017 5:07 pm : link
I wouldn't point to any of the starting five as a plus player that, as a GM, I wouldn't be actively looking to replace.

It's impossible to say for sure but the circumstantial evidence points to an organizational problem with regards to scouting and/or coaching OL talent.
Jerry should be cut  
JohnF : 9/11/2017 5:39 pm : link
as soon as the coaching staff looks at the game tapes. Just replacing him is a huge improvement. He can't run block, he's awful at picking up line games, and you're putting your 20 million dollar QB at risk.

I'd start Jones next game...if Hart does not improve, then I'd put Pugh at RT, and have this:

Flowers/Jones/Richburg/Fluker/Pugh

At the very least, Jerry needs to clean out his locker tomorrow. He just can't play.
RE: I think they are committed to Jerry right now....  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/11/2017 6:25 pm : link
In comment 13594271 Simms11 said:
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I really hate to say it, but Fluker didn't even get a game jersey last night! Jones might be an option, but that's probably about it this year, unless Fluker starts to pick it up in practice?! Wheeler is just too weak at for NFL defenses. He's got decent technique, but needs to build strength. I would think, with a good off-season conditioning program, that he could compete with Flowers at LT next year and then possibly look to move Flowers to the right side, probably at RT, pushing hart to the bench or inside to Guard. I thought Hart played fairly well at RG in his rookie season, albeit in a limited role.

The reason why Fluker didn't get a shirt isn't necessarily an indictment of his standing within the team. They have been consistently dressing seven OL for the past few years, so that only leaves two backup shirts. Fluker doesn't play C or LT, which puts him at an immediate disadvantage - they dressed a backup C/G, and a backup T who can at least nominally play LT. It's really not that complicated.
Trade  
Mkdaman1818 : 9/11/2017 7:36 pm : link
See if joe Thomas is available, if he's not then try a Duane Brown trade with Houston. We cannot do this to Eli.
RE: Trade  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/11/2017 7:46 pm : link
In comment 13594874 Mkdaman1818 said:
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See if joe Thomas is available, if he's not then try a Duane Brown trade with Houston. We cannot do this to Eli.

I don't disagree with this idea (and would throw Staley in as well). And if we need cap room, ask Eli to restructure. I mean, if we can't do this to Eli, surely he doesn't want to do it to himself, either.
We are better off finding 4 sumo wrestlers  
EricJ : 9/11/2017 8:38 pm : link
to flank Richberg. They have much better footwork, know about leverage and have power.

Sounds ridiculous but I bet they would get a better push and would protect Eli
Realistic changes?  
santacruzom : 9/11/2017 9:07 pm : link
I wouldn't be surprised if every offensive lineman we have changed back to their original form of a heart-shaped, half-inflated helium balloon. That seems realistic to me.
Lines they are a changin  
Maineline : 9/12/2017 7:51 am : link
Move our best offensive lineman Pugh to left tackle. Put Jones in Pugh's left guard position to help Richburg at center. Move Flowers to RT and put Fluker next to him at RT. Try to establish a power running game on the right side with a pissed of Flowers and mammoth Fluke. Start Darkwa at RB.
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