What COULD the Giants have done to improve the OL....

Instead of handing the starting positions to a group that clearly did not get it done a year ago. They could also stop making excuses for the group and pointing the finger everywhere else every time McAdoo gets asked about the issues.

You preach "heavy-handedness" then stop babying them.

If the only redeeming quality you have is that you are supposedly good at pass blocking and have "continuity" with your starting linemates, but you continue to fall for the same damn basic stunt in the exact same situation, and you routinely get pushed backwards suffocating the pocket,, you don't deserve to be handed the starting job without second thought if someone could do the job better.

At least other guys don't get pushed back and can get some push in the running game. You think we could use a little of that?

How about we start there???

We had infinite amount of possible solutions.. Alex Mack was available, Richie Incognito was available, Tunsil was a good kid who smoked pot but wasn't a damaged good like Gregory.. Those guys were just off the top of my head.. all three were highly regarded or highly rated.. Tunsil was rated leaps and bounds higher than Flowers.. Flowers was supposed to be a mid to late 1st round pick.. Tunsil was supposed to be pick #1.. JR has made a huge mess with this OL and there were tons of solutions over the past 5 years.. Even this year we could've moved down and gotten Lamb or Cam Robinson..

Instead of Hart. How did that tradeoff look on Sunday?

Poor draft class and overpaid mediocre free agents wouldn't have been wise

This problem extends way beyond this offseason - it's been an issue for years, and is likely to derail what is otherwise a SB caliber roster

We need Odell back asap so he can turn slants into 80 yard TDs because this line is a joke

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In comment 13595363 annexOPR said:

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Poor draft class and overpaid mediocre free agents wouldn't have been wise

Maybe spent well, but not used well. They neglected to generate any competition for the group that failed us a year ago. And the HC continues to deflect any suggestion that there's a problem.

Trades may be an option as well. Plenty of deals made this year but that's not the way this team operates. Seattle Atlanta NE and Philly are all open to improving their rosters this way and teams like the Jets Buffalo and Cleveland are open to moving resources.

This will be the third year of essentially the same personnel on the O line performing poorly. How do they not make any changes?

Do you think their reluctance to go after Whitworth was because they wanted Flowers to work at LT? Or did they not want to pay for a 36 year old? As Krath pointed out, his deal is structured for really only 1 year. How did they not pursue him?

I would have signed Whitworth, signed another lower priced FA, drafted an OL in the first 2 rounds, and moved flowers to RG. This could have drastically improved the line. Now I just don't see how this unit can improve... Talent isnt there and the depth is scary bad.

1) chip with RB and TEs
2) run more 2 TE sets and use the middle of the field
3) be less generic and formation better
4) use Marshall's size
5) not have david carr syndrome in the pocket
6) try someone different at RG to at least have an OK run game... since pass blocking is less then ideal as well

Here are all the teams who trades for Oline the past two months.

Atlanta - Sambrailo, Ty T
Ravens - Bergstrom, Tony C
Seahawks - Battle, Isaiah T
Ravens - Bowanko, Luke C
49ers - Tomlinson, Laken G
Chiefs - Erving, Cameron G
Jets - Hennessy, Thomas C
Redskins - Crowley, Lucas C
Seahawks - Tobin, Matt T
Broncos - Barbre, Allen G
Saints- Dorenbos, Jon C

And again, my biggest issues is their failing to generate competition. But beyond that, if I were the GM I would leave no stone unturned in effort to fix this.

In comment 13595402 UberAlias said:

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Here are all the teams who trades for Oline the past two months. Atlanta - Sambrailo, Ty T Ravens - Bergstrom, Tony C Seahawks - Battle, Isaiah T Ravens - Bowanko, Luke C 49ers - Tomlinson, Laken G Chiefs - Erving, Cameron G Jets - Hennessy, Thomas C Redskins - Crowley, Lucas C Seahawks - Tobin, Matt T Broncos - Barbre, Allen G Saints- Dorenbos, Jon C And again, my biggest issues is their failing to generate competition. But beyond that, if I were the GM I would leave no stone unturned in effort to fix this.

Why not trade for Greg Robinson who is now the starting left tackle for the Lions? Only cost them a 6th round pick and 1 year left on his deal at 3 mill. Could have let him compete with Flowers for the LT spot.

My biggest issue with Reese was not bringing in any competition for this putrid unit. Make them earn their jobs. Who really competed with Flowers for that position???

and this clown of a Head Coach still starts Jerry

to go down the tubes as a result of not improving the O Line,
only one man is to blame. Players like Tomlinson and Cameron Erving were acquired right before the start of the season!
I think a 5th rounder was used for Erving, not sure on Tomlinson. Some of the other free agents in the offseason
were getting about 12 mill. AAV, like a Riley Rieff.
Whitworth got that much, and if they signed him,
well than Reese would be admitting that Flowers was a bust.
Jerry's ego won't allow that...I am not going to blame him
for not drafting someone who had a bong in his face, other teams passed on Tunsil as well.

In comment 13595462 Rflairr said:

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and this clown of a Head Coach still starts Jerry

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I would hope Jones or Fluker is starting soon. Hart has
'an ankle', might be out on Monday. Maybe Chad Wheeler
gets a start?

the Vikings have 5 new starting OL this season. They did it in one off season. Meanwhile Reese resigned Jerry and signed D.J. Fluker.

in MIA really care that Tunsil smoked pot in college? Look at Zeke, a vial human being. These guys are walking all over the NFL.

Now Tunsil is an excellent LT playing in an excellent scheme for Adam Gase!