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tbonfig : 9/12/2017 7:20 am
Scored a ridiculous score of 56 points to start the season. Brady/Cooks set the tone and the rest of my team just pooped the bed.

I'm a Jordan Howard owner and curious how much everyone thinks I should allocate to acquire Tarik Cohen? We have a 100 budget but my league gets super aggressive when a good player is available. I was contemplating $31 but curious on others thoughts.

Non PPR league.
There's a whole thread on Cohen  
UConn4523 : 9/12/2017 7:24 am : link
with some info on bids. That said non PPR changes his value to you a bit but I'd still want him. No idea what I'd bid though.
I lost in all three leagues and have David Johnson in my big money  
Heisenberg : 9/12/2017 7:42 am : link
league.

RE: There's a whole thread on Cohen  
YAJ2112 : 9/12/2017 8:27 am : link
In comment 13595262 UConn4523 said:
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with some info on bids. That said non PPR changes his value to you a bit but I'd still want him. No idea what I'd bid though.


Sorry UConn, your input on these threads is no longer to be taken seriously. You lost to arc by 40?????????????
RE: RE: There's a whole thread on Cohen  
UConn4523 : 9/12/2017 8:28 am : link
In comment 13595307 YAJ2112 said:
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In comment 13595262 UConn4523 said:


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with some info on bids. That said non PPR changes his value to you a bit but I'd still want him. No idea what I'd bid though.



Sorry UConn, your input on these threads is no longer to be taken seriously. You lost to arc by 40?????????????


Yeah I wouldn't listen to me either.
I won won and lost one  
superspynyg : 9/12/2017 9:14 am : link
In the league I lost, I did not have OBJ, DJax or Snead who were my 1-2-3 wrs. Its a full point ppr. Plus Russel Wilson shit the bed.

In the league I won, I scored the highest without Ajayi.
Thanks UCONN  
tbonfig : 9/12/2017 9:19 am : link
I have now reluctantly bid 51/100 on Cohen, 7 on Alex Smith (Dalton as backup) and 3 on Algohor.

Awesome.
I won my matchup  
beatrixkiddo : 9/12/2017 9:31 am : link
and that was with Hoyer at QB as I didn't have Winston.

I am contemplating using a waiver claim on a player but I know that I won't be able to steal any of the top payers like Cohen or Allen, I'm currently 8th out of 14 and am weighing if I should just wait and let my waiver priority climb for something better.

I'm pretty set everywhere, but thin at WR. I have Cooper, Tate and Moncrief and thats it right now. Was wondering if it is worth it to try and take Cooper-Kupp, or should i wait till Waivers pass and try and nab someone like Marquise Lee (who may even have more value)?
Hurting at  
Mr. Nickels : 9/12/2017 10:34 am : link
every position

Will Eifert be ok for TE or do I add Fleener?

At WR:

Golladay
Agholor
Marquise Lee
Marquise Goodwin
Jermaine Kearse
JJ Nelson
Breshard Perriman

What 2 to add? I am liking Agholor Lee and Nelson.
Spending half of your points on Cohen  
Keith : 9/12/2017 10:41 am : link
in week 1 is batsh*t crazy, IMO.
I have waiver priority and have David johnson  
TommytheElephant : 9/12/2017 10:42 am : link
Keeper league and I got him last year 14th Rd so I'm not dropping
I need another RB and have Jordan Howard
Tarik cohen wouldn't make sense ....

I don't want to waste priority on the Arizona by committee

Available
Carson
Sims
Buck Allen
Kamara
Chris Thompson

Non ppr and pickins are slim....
Uh Eifert & Olsen both took shits for me.  
Motley Two : 9/12/2017 10:56 am : link
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arcarsenal : 9/12/2017 11:21 am : link
I'm so fucking pissed at myself - I picked Cohen up in 2 of my 3 leagues and I dropped him for Smallwood after reading all this BS about how Smallwood was going to have a large role in the Eagles offense, etc. so I hedged a bit.

I did hang onto Cohen in the other league - but that's the league where I already have Gurley, Hunt, McCaffrey, and Coleman - so I'm loaded @ RB. The league I dropped him is the one I really need him.

I'm going to put in an aggressive bid but I also don't want to blow a huge chunk of my budget. Very costly mistake and stupid on my behalf.
I want to pick up guys  
pjcas18 : 9/12/2017 11:30 am : link
like Cohen and Golladay or Kupp, in my only league they're available (non ppr) and we have a FAAB, but who do you drop from this team?

QB: Ryan, Big Ben
WR: A. Brown, Cooks, T. Hill, R. Cobb, J. Maclin
RB: Gurley, R. Kelley, F. Gore, D. Martin (Susp)
TE: J. Reed, E. Engram

1K, 1 DEF

Do I drop Kelley for Cohen or Golladay then I have to start Cohen or Gore, Kelley sucked this week, but I think he's still the main back in WAS for now at least. And by the time Martin returns who cares.

Do I drop Maclin for Golladay or Kupp?


RE: RE: There's a whole thread on Cohen  
arcarsenal : 9/12/2017 11:54 am : link
In comment 13595307 YAJ2112 said:
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In comment 13595262 UConn4523 said:


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with some info on bids. That said non PPR changes his value to you a bit but I'd still want him. No idea what I'd bid though.



Sorry UConn, your input on these threads is no longer to be taken seriously. You lost to arc by 40?????????????


To be fair to him, everyone would have lost to me except T-Bone.

:)
Do I prioritize  
Mr Brightside : 9/12/2017 11:57 am : link
my high waiver claim on Cohen or skip him for Hooper? I have Freeman, McCaffrey, Ingram, Gillislee, & Perkins at RB, but only Doyle & Ebron at TE...yuck.
RE: I want to pick up guys  
Maximus, Esq. : 9/12/2017 12:02 pm : link
In comment 13595723 pjcas18 said:
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like Cohen and Golladay or Kupp, in my only league they're available (non ppr) and we have a FAAB, but who do you drop from this team?

QB: Ryan, Big Ben
WR: A. Brown, Cooks, T. Hill, R. Cobb, J. Maclin
RB: Gurley, R. Kelley, F. Gore, D. Martin (Susp)
TE: J. Reed, E. Engram

1K, 1 DEF

Do I drop Kelley for Cohen or Golladay then I have to start Cohen or Gore, Kelley sucked this week, but I think he's still the main back in WAS for now at least. And by the time Martin returns who cares.

Do I drop Maclin for Golladay or Kupp?



I'd drop Kelley for Cohen or Allen. Perine will eventually take over notwithstanding his 0-0-0 day.

I'd hold Maclin.
Thanks ME  
pjcas18 : 9/12/2017 12:08 pm : link
anyone think Algholor is for real or just one of the fools gold glimpses Algholor has flashed in the past?

He's available in all my leagues.

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arcarsenal : 9/12/2017 12:11 pm : link
I need to see another good game out of Agholor before I waste a spot on him - but he's someone I'll have an eye on.

I would hold into Maclin. He'll likely be more consistent than either of the guys you're considering dropping him for.
pj  
bigbluehoya : 9/12/2017 12:14 pm : link
First move is to drop Engram. Unless it's dynasty or something?

Maybe Trade Cobb + Kelly for a better RB?
RE: pj  
pjcas18 : 9/12/2017 12:17 pm : link
In comment 13595805 bigbluehoya said:
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First move is to drop Engram. Unless it's dynasty or something?

Maybe Trade Cobb + Kelly for a better RB?


I feel like I need a 2nd TE on my roster, Jordan Reed while awesome when healthy is never healthy so yeah, I drafted him anyway and then they report just before week 1 he has a broken toe or some shit and is going to play through it all year (or until he gets his 90th concussion)

I can drop Engram, but I do feel like a need another TE option, unless I try and sell low on Reed for another TE.

Shallow position.

I am shopping Cobb and have some interest.
RE: Thanks ME  
Keith : 9/12/2017 12:19 pm : link
In comment 13595795 pjcas18 said:
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anyone think Algholor is for real or just one of the fools gold glimpses Algholor has flashed in the past?

He's available in all my leagues.


He had 1 really big play on a broken play. I'm def not sold.
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arcarsenal : 9/12/2017 12:27 pm : link
I wouldn't drop Engram yet. His role is only going to grow.
Why isn't worried about Howard and Cohen  
Sonic Youth : 9/12/2017 12:39 pm : link
having a timeshare on a bad offense?

People think Howard is just going to lose his job like that? I know Cohen is the goods, but Howard isn't a scrub either.
RE: Why isn't worried about Howard and Cohen  
bigbluehoya : 9/12/2017 12:44 pm : link
In comment 13595884 Sonic Youth said:
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having a timeshare on a bad offense?

People think Howard is just going to lose his job like that? I know Cohen is the goods, but Howard isn't a scrub either.


Plenty of touches to go around. Meredith and Kevin White both out long term. Kendall Wright can play, but he's never been a high target volume guy.

Cohen will be a utility knife.
So I "won" Cohen  
tbonfig : 9/12/2017 12:48 pm : link
51/100. Will be interesting to see how that backfield plays out.
51 pts on Cohen is absolutely  
Keith : 9/12/2017 12:48 pm : link
ridiculous. You just sabotaged yoru season.
RE: So I  
arcarsenal : 9/12/2017 12:48 pm : link
In comment 13595895 tbonfig said:
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51/100. Will be interesting to see how that backfield plays out.


You spent more than half your budget? Oof. That's one expensive pickup!
I'm guessing the next highest was around 20.  
Keith : 9/12/2017 12:49 pm : link
You just wasted a sh*t ton of pts.
RE: So I  
bigbluehoya : 9/12/2017 12:52 pm : link
In comment 13595895 tbonfig said:
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51/100. Will be interesting to see how that backfield plays out.


I'll go against the grain and say I think you paid about the right price. You didn't steal him but I don't think you made an egregious move.
There is almost no scenario  
Keith : 9/12/2017 12:55 pm : link
in which using more than half of your pts in week 1 is a good move. Especially when you are talking about a kid on a brutally bad offense that will be sharing touches. I understand that he's explosive and looks to be a playmaker, but you just put yourself behind the 8 ball significantly for the remaining 17 weeks of fantasy!
Rank these TE pickups for 0.5 PPR  
Mr Brightside : 9/12/2017 1:05 pm : link
Fleener
Hooper
Clay
Brate
RE: There is almost no scenario  
giants#1 : 9/12/2017 1:08 pm : link
In comment 13595917 Keith said:
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in which using more than half of your pts in week 1 is a good move. Especially when you are talking about a kid on a brutally bad offense that will be sharing touches. I understand that he's explosive and looks to be a playmaker, but you just put yourself behind the 8 ball significantly for the remaining 17 weeks of fantasy!


At best there are 16 weeks left, but most leagues have their championships in week 16, so there are really only 15 weeks left!
RE: 51 pts on Cohen is absolutely  
tbonfig : 9/12/2017 1:17 pm : link
In comment 13595897 Keith said:
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ridiculous. You just sabotaged yoru season.


Actually, guy, the next highest was 38
RE: RE: So I  
tbonfig : 9/12/2017 1:20 pm : link
In comment 13595898 arcarsenal said:
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51/100. Will be interesting to see how that backfield plays out.



You spent more than half your budget? Oof. That's one expensive pickup!


It is. It absolutely is. We'll see if it pays off!
RE: RE: So I  
tbonfig : 9/12/2017 1:21 pm : link
In comment 13595914 bigbluehoya said:
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51/100. Will be interesting to see how that backfield plays out.



I'll go against the grain and say I think you paid about the right price. You didn't steal him but I don't think you made an egregious move.


Honestly if I didn't have Howard I wouldn't have spent as much
RE: There is almost no scenario  
Metnut : 9/12/2017 1:22 pm : link
In comment 13595917 Keith said:
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in which using more than half of your pts in week 1 is a good move. Especially when you are talking about a kid on a brutally bad offense that will be sharing touches. I understand that he's explosive and looks to be a playmaker, but you just put yourself behind the 8 ball significantly for the remaining 17 weeks of fantasy!


Not all leagues are the same.

My 12 team league drafted 20 rounds and has 27 roster spots per team. In a PPR league, you can certainly make a good case to take Allen or the Bears guy for 50-65% of the budget since the chances to get anyone who can contribute are so slim due to the format.
RE: I want to pick up guys  
SomeFan : 9/12/2017 1:24 pm : link
In comment 13595723 pjcas18 said:
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like Cohen and Golladay or Kupp, in my only league they're available (non ppr) and we have a FAAB, but who do you drop from this team?

QB: Ryan, Big Ben
WR: A. Brown, Cooks, T. Hill, R. Cobb, J. Maclin
RB: Gurley, R. Kelley, F. Gore, D. Martin (Susp)
TE: J. Reed, E. Engram

1K, 1 DEF

Do I drop Kelley for Cohen or Golladay then I have to start Cohen or Gore, Kelley sucked this week, but I think he's still the main back in WAS for now at least. And by the time Martin returns who cares.

Do I drop Maclin for Golladay or Kupp?



I have a very similar team, especially WRs. I am thinking of dropping Gore for Gollady.
RE: RE: I want to pick up guys  
SomeFan : 9/12/2017 1:27 pm : link
In comment 13595986 SomeFan said:
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In comment 13595723 pjcas18 said:


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like Cohen and Golladay or Kupp, in my only league they're available (non ppr) and we have a FAAB, but who do you drop from this team?

QB: Ryan, Big Ben
WR: A. Brown, Cooks, T. Hill, R. Cobb, J. Maclin
RB: Gurley, R. Kelley, F. Gore, D. Martin (Susp)
TE: J. Reed, E. Engram

1K, 1 DEF

Do I drop Kelley for Cohen or Golladay then I have to start Cohen or Gore, Kelley sucked this week, but I think he's still the main back in WAS for now at least. And by the time Martin returns who cares.

Do I drop Maclin for Golladay or Kupp?





I have a very similar team, especially WRs. I am thinking of dropping Gore for Gollady.


Though if I had your team, I'd probably drop Maclin.
I crushed it  
VenteSette : 9/12/2017 1:27 pm : link
153 points and that is with Mike Evans on the bye and Gillislee on the bench and 0 from TE because of Henry's concussion. Kareem Hunt, Jags D, and Stafford were awesome. It is better to be lucky than good.

I have Jarvis Landry, Duke Johnson and Woodhead on my bench and need a TE and I am considering a waiver claim for Cohen or Golloday. Which would you prefer? Looking to dump Johnson first, but I may just drop him for another TE (James, Clay, Engram, Zach Miller all FAs). Otherwise I could just dump Henry and stream.
Should have just posted my team  
VenteSette : 9/12/2017 1:33 pm : link
QB:Stafford
WR:Evans, Cooper, Pryor, Jeffery, Landry, Watkins
RB:McCoy, Hunt, Anderson, Gillislee, Woodhead, Duke Johnson
TE:Hunter Henry
K:Hopkins
D:Jags

Can you tell who got auto-drafted while I was making dinner? 10 team league with some people with strange strategies, so plenty of bodies left.
Have the 3rd slot on the waiver wire  
ColinFiggs : 9/12/2017 1:33 pm : link
Guaranteed that Cohen will be gone.

I have Gordon, Fournette, Vereen and Powell.

You guys think Buck Allen is worth using the slot or save it?
I can see spending 50+% of your FAAB on a week 1 guy  
YAJ2112 : 9/12/2017 2:22 pm : link
That guy should be contributing to your team for the most amount of time/weeks, why wouldn't you be willing to spend most of your budget on that?

Now the question of Cohen being worth that or not is a separate one. That will be more league format/team specific. There are some leagues I will do that in for Cohen, where the rosters are deep and the amount of impact players on waivers over the course of the season extremely small.
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