You said it yourself...players will go where the money is. Yes, Mara said the Giants would pay him but that doesn't mean they're the only team that would be willing to do so. I imagine that if Beckham reaches free agency healthy that he'll have his pick of several destinations.
Come on Terps, you of all people know how this works. The Giants aren't letting him get to FA. It doesn't matter how many other teams would be willing to pay him.
Hey I've been advocating trading him for a while as an alternative. If we get 2 or 3 premium picks in return that helps us possibly rebuild the offensive line or even compete for a QB in a draft that's supposed to have some blue chip guys in it.
Pay Beckham and yeah, you have Beckham but what does that matter when you have a 37 year old QB that's getting hit before he completes his drop?
There isn't a position more fungible on this team than WR...this team has been a revolving door of quality wide receivers since 2005. There will be good wide receivers after Beckham...this front office excels at that.
to fix the OLine with or without premium picks? They've been trying to fix it for how long now? They've failed for years at this now and aren't even close to fixing it still.
they lost 3 in a row, was the team falling apart then? no they turned around and went 9-2
and people act like the offense did not win any games last year, which is false
Wait, I'd like to know which games last year you're referring to in which the offense carried the team.
. . . I'll wait.
ravens game? eagles game? redskins game they put up points sans 2 nad turnovers by eli
I'll give you the Ravens game - even though the Giants run game was non-existent and Beckham had to go for over 200 yards just to edge them out.
But the Giants defense forced 2 turnovers against the Eagles and allowed them only three 3rd down conversions for the entire game. And I'm assuming you just through in that 19-10 Redskins game as a joke.
Bottom line is that it's absurd not to be concerned about this offense after this game and after what we saw from them last year.
What I find amazing is that anyone would find the tweet
even remotely controversial. The ownership is involved, they also read the papers and want to please the fans, sell tickets and jerseys, etc.
We took care of the defense last year, now for the offense ... except not.
The Giants had two first downs in the first half, they gave up in the second half ... it was an embarrassment. Some may say that we need to patch things together, trade draft picks for a 30+ year old lineman, you know, while Eli still has it. But if Eli has games like that, what is really the cost to rebuilding? Right now I would put Eli solidly in the bottom half of starting QBs....its up to Eli to try to change that.
I think there should be urgency with the Giants. It is not just one game, it is the trajectory. The defense is on a positive trajectory, and I am excited by that, the offense is not (despite the upgrades).
We do have time to turn things around this season, and we may, but that does not invalidate the sentiments of the tweet which are ... turn this around or you are gone!
He didn't look great in Dallas but he wasn't horrible either and terrific in Green Bay playoff game just last season. Eli isn't done. He's playing in an offense that is totally predictable. The worst thing about this shit show offense is that it very well may result in Eli either being injured or run out of town. If you sent Eli to play in any number of well schemed and well coached offenses then he'd be a top teir QB. He reads defenses, he makes all the throws, he's a fucking two time Super Bowl MVP. The problem isn't Eli, the problem is McAdoo's joke offense. I wrote here earlier, B-list podcasters watching on broadcast TV are picking up the tells and tendencies of McAdoo's offense. It sucks.
I don't think McAdoo would get fired even if they don't score 20 pts
once in a game the rest of the year. I can't imagine what changes McAdoo can make that would make this a potent offense. Sometimes I feel like we have a high school staff going against the likes of Wade Philips every week. Sure, OBJ will explode in a few games and we will all temporarily forget how inept this staff is.
There are poor OL's around the league, but we don't see those offenses struggle so much to establish anything. And usually they have the excuse of a piss poor QB. Eli was pretty bad on Sunday, but with his history I'd rather cut him some slack than McAdoo.
11-5 means nothing against a weak schedule and as an offensive head coach when you just pretty much rode the defense all year.
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You said it yourself...players will go where the money is. Yes, Mara said the Giants would pay him but that doesn't mean they're the only team that would be willing to do so. I imagine that if Beckham reaches free agency healthy that he'll have his pick of several destinations.
Come on Terps, you of all people know how this works. The Giants aren't letting him get to FA. It doesn't matter how many other teams would be willing to pay him.
Hey I've been advocating trading him for a while as an alternative. If we get 2 or 3 premium picks in return that helps us possibly rebuild the offensive line or even compete for a QB in a draft that's supposed to have some blue chip guys in it.
Pay Beckham and yeah, you have Beckham but what does that matter when you have a 37 year old QB that's getting hit before he completes his drop?
There isn't a position more fungible on this team than WR...this team has been a revolving door of quality wide receivers since 2005. There will be good wide receivers after Beckham...this front office excels at that.
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Stop....this is classic NFL over-reactions.
Again, the reaction isn't to the loss.
The reaction (not going to call it an overreaction because it's valid)
It stops being valid around the time where people start suggesting anyone should be fired or "on watch". Let's live in reality, folks.
and people act like the offense did not win any games last year, which is false
and people act like the offense did not win any games last year, which is false
Wait, I'd like to know which games last year you're referring to in which the offense carried the team.
. . . I'll wait.
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they lost 3 in a row, was the team falling apart then? no they turned around and went 9-2
and people act like the offense did not win any games last year, which is false
Wait, I'd like to know which games last year you're referring to in which the offense carried the team.
. . . I'll wait.
ravens game? eagles game? redskins game they put up points sans 2 nad turnovers by eli
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they lost 3 in a row, was the team falling apart then? no they turned around and went 9-2
and people act like the offense did not win any games last year, which is false
Wait, I'd like to know which games last year you're referring to in which the offense carried the team.
. . . I'll wait.
ravens game? eagles game? redskins game they put up points sans 2 nad turnovers by eli
I'll give you the Ravens game - even though the Giants run game was non-existent and Beckham had to go for over 200 yards just to edge them out.
But the Giants defense forced 2 turnovers against the Eagles and allowed them only three 3rd down conversions for the entire game. And I'm assuming you just through in that 19-10 Redskins game as a joke.
Bottom line is that it's absurd not to be concerned about this offense after this game and after what we saw from them last year.
We took care of the defense last year, now for the offense ... except not.
The Giants had two first downs in the first half, they gave up in the second half ... it was an embarrassment. Some may say that we need to patch things together, trade draft picks for a 30+ year old lineman, you know, while Eli still has it. But if Eli has games like that, what is really the cost to rebuilding? Right now I would put Eli solidly in the bottom half of starting QBs....its up to Eli to try to change that.
I think there should be urgency with the Giants. It is not just one game, it is the trajectory. The defense is on a positive trajectory, and I am excited by that, the offense is not (despite the upgrades).
We do have time to turn things around this season, and we may, but that does not invalidate the sentiments of the tweet which are ... turn this around or you are gone!
There are poor OL's around the league, but we don't see those offenses struggle so much to establish anything. And usually they have the excuse of a piss poor QB. Eli was pretty bad on Sunday, but with his history I'd rather cut him some slack than McAdoo.
11-5 means nothing against a weak schedule and as an offensive head coach when you just pretty much rode the defense all year.