There are tons of people who will wait on lines days in advance and gladly shell out a grand for this. I can't understand why, but Apple knows this and prices their product accordingly.
Lavar Ball should be looking into this business model.
What does it do that a phone for half that price doesn't?
I won't pay that much for a phone, but its not like they've broken a price barrier. Several others premium phones sell for that from Samsung and others.
looks great. I don't own a tablet, so having a large phone to browse the internet and watch media/video is nice for me to have. I think I'm in for the iPhone X if I can get a good trade-in price on my iPhone 7 plus and my carrier will play ball.
iPhone release was always insanely anticipated. Threads here pages long prior to the event. Now halfway through the event and a total of six posts... wow!!!
Kind of wish I skipped over the iPhone 7 and waited out the X - the difference between the 6 and 7 was fairly minimal.
If I can get a good trade-in deal, I'll probably consider it. Otherwise I'll probably just ride it out with the 7+ for another year.
Yeah I am in the same boat. I had to get a new phone when my 6Plus shit the bed. I paid $1000 for the 7plus that I have now. I checked on Gazelle for the trade in value and it put it as just shy of $350. Are they crazy with that price? The phone isn't even 6 months old.
Kind of wish I skipped over the iPhone 7 and waited out the X - the difference between the 6 and 7 was fairly minimal.
If I can get a good trade-in deal, I'll probably consider it. Otherwise I'll probably just ride it out with the 7+ for another year.
Yeah I am in the same boat. I had to get a new phone when my 6Plus shit the bed. I paid $1000 for the 7plus that I have now. I checked on Gazelle for the trade in value and it put it as just shy of $350. Are they crazy with that price? The phone isn't even 6 months old.
It's like buying last year's car model when the new ones are about to come out. The availability of the new and better thing depreciates what you have.
I would wait to see what the carriers are offering. Last year they offered generous trade in deals, provided you got a 2 year payment plan.
and i'm an Apple guy. It looks like a clumsy device to use. Even with current iPhones swiping is hit and miss. Its probably my own fault but I often mis-swipe and don't get the desired result. Now they've replaced something as important as the home button with a swipe gesture. It seems error prone. The traditional touch id requires an overt action to unlock the phone or authorize apple pay, you have to touch the home button. It seems with face id you can unintentionally unlock the phone or authorize a payment.
Also, how are you supposed to hold the damn thing without blocking the display or getting your grubby fingerprints where you don't want them ? Now i'll be ordering an 8 plus as soon as they're available, but I hope that the X does not turn out to be the future of iPhones
cracked screen, and the lightning connector is going - so I will probably go with the 8. My 6 is pushing up against its 64GB limit, so it looks like I will have to splurge for the 256.
cracked screen, and the lightning connector is going - so I will probably go with the 8. My 6 is pushing up against its 64GB limit, so it looks like I will have to splurge for the 256.
It's a pisser that they've eliminated the the 128GB model, forcing you to go to $849 on the 256GB.
cracked screen, and the lightning connector is going - so I will probably go with the 8. My 6 is pushing up against its 64GB limit, so it looks like I will have to splurge for the 256.
No microSD slot? You can get microSD with double the capacity for half that.
who make 30, 40, 50k (or 80k supporting a family) can spend $1000 or $1150 on a phone. That's not a moral judgment. I literally just dont understand how you can spend 1/30 or 1/50 of your pre-tax income on a phone.
who make 30, 40, 50k (or 80k supporting a family) can spend $1000 or $1150 on a phone. That's not a moral judgment. I literally just dont understand how you can spend 1/30 or 1/50 of your pre-tax income on a phone.
with contracts and the $200 upgrade to a new phone I stopped paying attention to the new units. A $1000 phone over 24 months is still an extra $41 per month before taxes. If you have 2 lines that's almost $100 per month after tax anytime you ever want to upgrade.
I much prefer ancontrct for an upgrade at a reasonable price. If I ever wanted out of a contract a competitor would buy it out anyway so it never mattered to me that I signed upon for another 2 years each time.
who make 30, 40, 50k (or 80k supporting a family) can spend $1000 or $1150 on a phone. That's not a moral judgment. I literally just dont understand how you can spend 1/30 or 1/50 of your pre-tax income on a phone.
It basically does everything. It can be a GPS, instant chat device, phone, tv, music device, workout monitor, newspaper, notebook, email device, photo camera, video camera, banking center, zagat type guide, gaming console, and likely a bunch of other stuff i can't even think of. It would cost a lot more to buy all of these devices separately. A lot of people don't own desktops or laptops anymore and just have a phone.
Yes, you can get most of the functionality from a less expensive device, but people have spent beyond their means way before Apple came out with the iPhone. IMO, as long as iPhones run iOS and other phones don't, people will continue to pay a premium to have the devices with the best operating system.
who make 30, 40, 50k (or 80k supporting a family) can spend $1000 or $1150 on a phone. That's not a moral judgment. I literally just dont understand how you can spend 1/30 or 1/50 of your pre-tax income on a phone.
$1000 dollar phones are a recent thing.
Virtually no one buys these phones out right, they lease the phone on a plan and pay for it over the life of the contract. And let's be honest, a phone just isn't a "phone" anymore - it's a personal computer in the palm of your hand.
who make 30, 40, 50k (or 80k supporting a family) can spend $1000 or $1150 on a phone. That's not a moral judgment. I literally just dont understand how you can spend 1/30 or 1/50 of your pre-tax income on a phone.
$1000 dollar phones are a recent thing.
Virtually no one buys these phones out right, they lease the phone on a plan and pay for it over the life of the contract. And let's be honest, a phone just isn't a "phone" anymore - it's a personal computer in the palm of your hand.
The iPhone X is the Mercedes of mobile phones. How do people afford a Mercedes ? For those of modest means, an iPhone SE can be had for a few hundred dollars. Refurbished iPhones from Apple can also be had. Your getting the same technology and the Apple ecosystem for a fraction of the cost of a top of the line phone, only without some bells and whistles . If the Apple name isn't important, Androids can still be had for close to nothing.
I spite of all that , I see people who I would think are not well to do walking around with the 6s or 7 Plus
That is more important than their phone?? Our entire lives center around it. And it's not just some novelty item. Most of us depend on it for work.
Don't really get the price complaints either? The recent iPhones have been selling around $800.00-$850.00. Is a couple hundred bucks difference really shocking for a 10 year anniversary item with a gaggle of new items?
Also, if you buy the phone outright your crazy. I lease my phone for 30-ish bucks a month.. every year I trade my old phone in and get the new one as part of a NEXT program. I put next to nothing out.
That is more important than their phone?? Our entire lives center around it. And it's not just some novelty item. Most of us depend on it for work.
Don't really get the price complaints either? The recent iPhones have been selling around $800.00-$850.00. Is a couple hundred bucks difference really shocking for a 10 year anniversary item with a gaggle of new items?
Also, if you buy the phone outright your crazy. I lease my phone for 30-ish bucks a month.. every year I trade my old phone in and get the new one as part of a NEXT program. I put next to nothing out.
I have 5 lines on my plan...I need to start making my kids be more accountable (a whole different questions). $30-ish a month might sound intriguing, but an added $150-ish a month?
once they didn't away with contracts, instead of getting a new phone for $200-$300 every 2 years you can now only get a new phone if you pay full price of $700-$1000.
I can't believe that many people cared about contracts. I've been with the same carrier my whole life, and if I ever did want to switch a competitor would just pay the buyout.
have trouble fitting the 6 or 7 plus in their pockets. I always wear khaki or suit pants to work, and usually jeans otherwise, and it fits comfortably in my pocket along with some other stuff too. The iPhone X is even slightly smaller than the 6/7 plus so it'll fit easier.
once they didn't away with contracts, instead of getting a new phone for $200-$300 every 2 years you can now only get a new phone if you pay full price of $700-$1000.
I can't believe that many people cared about contracts. I've been with the same carrier my whole life, and if I ever did want to switch a competitor would just pay the buyout.
You save 20 per month on your line access fee by doing the monthly phone pricing, so that knocks 480 off the bill and evens it out pretty much.
once they didn't away with contracts, instead of getting a new phone for $200-$300 every 2 years you can now only get a new phone if you pay full price of $700-$1000.
I can't believe that many people cared about contracts. I've been with the same carrier my whole life, and if I ever did want to switch a competitor would just pay the buyout.
Yeah, but service plans are cheaper now. They used to bake in about $250 per year for the cost of the phone they were subsidizing. But if you chose not to get a new phone after two years the bill didn't go down. And if you just wanted a cheap phone, you still payed the same rate as if you'd bought an iPhone or other premium phone.
They've simply broken apart the service and equipment costs.
pretty much all of them. Verizons line access fee used to be 40 dollars per phone per month if you signed a 2 year contract. Now it's 20 if you pay for the phone over 24 months
I'll have to check if ATT does it which would make it a much different and more reasonable cost.
Mook is describing older contract phone plans vs. today's contract free plans. The old plans you had a 2 year contract and your phone purchases were subsidized, but they baked in a higher line access fee to pay for it. The fee didn't go down when the contract was up.
Today's plans no longer have contracts and they've lowered the line access fees. But there so phone subsidies, so you pay full price for the phone. You can buy it on an interest free 24 month payment plan added to your bill if you choose.
Bottom line: the carriers are not going to reduce your current line access fee in exchange for buying a phone on a payment plan. You'll pay the same amount for service, plus the equipment charge.
with enough minutes and unlimited data used to be $150 per month with the ability to get a new phone at a subsized cost every 2 years. Now I'm at $165 per month for the same 2 lines, unlimited everything, with no ability to upgrade without adding in $30 per month per phone.
My plan got more expensive, and I have no incentive to ever upgrade unless either my phone breaks or im dying for the new shiny toy. I liked it much better the old way.
with enough minutes and unlimited data used to be $150 per month with the ability to get a new phone at a subsized cost every 2 years. Now I'm at $165 per month for the same 2 lines, unlimited everything, with no ability to upgrade without adding in $30 per month per phone.
My plan got more expensive, and I have no incentive to ever upgrade unless either my phone breaks or im dying for the new shiny toy. I liked it much better the old way.
You're with AT&T? They have a two line unlimited plan for $115. Caveats: requires auto-pay, paperless billing and limits video to 480p.
What does it do that a phone for half that price doesn't?
Lavar Ball should be looking into this business model.
What does it do that a phone for half that price doesn't?
I won't pay that much for a phone, but its not like they've broken a price barrier. Several others premium phones sell for that from Samsung and others.
If I can get a good trade-in deal, I'll probably consider it. Otherwise I'll probably just ride it out with the 7+ for another year.
If I can get a good trade-in deal, I'll probably consider it. Otherwise I'll probably just ride it out with the 7+ for another year.
Yeah I am in the same boat. I had to get a new phone when my 6Plus shit the bed. I paid $1000 for the 7plus that I have now. I checked on Gazelle for the trade in value and it put it as just shy of $350. Are they crazy with that price? The phone isn't even 6 months old.
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Kind of wish I skipped over the iPhone 7 and waited out the X - the difference between the 6 and 7 was fairly minimal.
If I can get a good trade-in deal, I'll probably consider it. Otherwise I'll probably just ride it out with the 7+ for another year.
Yeah I am in the same boat. I had to get a new phone when my 6Plus shit the bed. I paid $1000 for the 7plus that I have now. I checked on Gazelle for the trade in value and it put it as just shy of $350. Are they crazy with that price? The phone isn't even 6 months old.
It's like buying last year's car model when the new ones are about to come out. The availability of the new and better thing depreciates what you have.
I would wait to see what the carriers are offering. Last year they offered generous trade in deals, provided you got a 2 year payment plan.
Also, how are you supposed to hold the damn thing without blocking the display or getting your grubby fingerprints where you don't want them ? Now i'll be ordering an 8 plus as soon as they're available, but I hope that the X does not turn out to be the future of iPhones
If I can get a good trade-in deal, I'll probably consider it. Otherwise I'll probably just ride it out with the 7+ for another year.
Same but I'm still on a 6. No chance in hell I spend $1000 but if there's a deal to be had I'll consider it.
Its 1150 on apple.com
It's a pisser that they've eliminated the the 128GB model, forcing you to go to $849 on the 256GB.
It's a pisser that they've eliminated the the 128GB model, forcing you to go to $849 on the 256GB.
I was thinking the same thing. I wouldn't mind paying the extra $50 for 126, but 256 seems like overkill.
No microSD slot? You can get microSD with double the capacity for half that.
No microSD slot? You can get microSD with double the capacity for half that.
On an Apple? Surely you jest!
This has bugged me for years.
I much prefer ancontrct for an upgrade at a reasonable price. If I ever wanted out of a contract a competitor would buy it out anyway so it never mattered to me that I signed upon for another 2 years each time.
It basically does everything. It can be a GPS, instant chat device, phone, tv, music device, workout monitor, newspaper, notebook, email device, photo camera, video camera, banking center, zagat type guide, gaming console, and likely a bunch of other stuff i can't even think of. It would cost a lot more to buy all of these devices separately. A lot of people don't own desktops or laptops anymore and just have a phone.
Yes, you can get most of the functionality from a less expensive device, but people have spent beyond their means way before Apple came out with the iPhone. IMO, as long as iPhones run iOS and other phones don't, people will continue to pay a premium to have the devices with the best operating system.
$1000 dollar phones are a recent thing.
Virtually no one buys these phones out right, they lease the phone on a plan and pay for it over the life of the contract. And let's be honest, a phone just isn't a "phone" anymore - it's a personal computer in the palm of your hand.
but really the comparison should be
iPhone 8 PLUS with iPhone x
because although the iPhone 8 plus is larger phone
the iPhone X actually has LARGER SCREEN than iPhone 8 Plus!!!
in other words iPhone x is slightly larger than iPhone 8
but has larger screen than iPhone 8 PLUS.
iphone 8 plus with 256 GB is $849
iPhone x is $1099 for 256 GB
so you are it is 250 bucks more expensive ..
not horrible considering what you get .
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who make 30, 40, 50k (or 80k supporting a family) can spend $1000 or $1150 on a phone. That's not a moral judgment. I literally just dont understand how you can spend 1/30 or 1/50 of your pre-tax income on a phone.
$1000 dollar phones are a recent thing.
Virtually no one buys these phones out right, they lease the phone on a plan and pay for it over the life of the contract. And let's be honest, a phone just isn't a "phone" anymore - it's a personal computer in the palm of your hand.
The iPhone X is the Mercedes of mobile phones. How do people afford a Mercedes ? For those of modest means, an iPhone SE can be had for a few hundred dollars. Refurbished iPhones from Apple can also be had. Your getting the same technology and the Apple ecosystem for a fraction of the cost of a top of the line phone, only without some bells and whistles . If the Apple name isn't important, Androids can still be had for close to nothing.
I spite of all that , I see people who I would think are not well to do walking around with the 6s or 7 Plus
this is what i am saying iPhone x is slightly larger than iPhone 6/7/8 (all the same size)
but the screen is actually larger than the plus phones
Don't really get the price complaints either? The recent iPhones have been selling around $800.00-$850.00. Is a couple hundred bucks difference really shocking for a 10 year anniversary item with a gaggle of new items?
Also, if you buy the phone outright your crazy. I lease my phone for 30-ish bucks a month.. every year I trade my old phone in and get the new one as part of a NEXT program. I put next to nothing out.
Don't really get the price complaints either? The recent iPhones have been selling around $800.00-$850.00. Is a couple hundred bucks difference really shocking for a 10 year anniversary item with a gaggle of new items?
Also, if you buy the phone outright your crazy. I lease my phone for 30-ish bucks a month.. every year I trade my old phone in and get the new one as part of a NEXT program. I put next to nothing out.
I can't believe that many people cared about contracts. I've been with the same carrier my whole life, and if I ever did want to switch a competitor would just pay the buyout.
I can't believe that many people cared about contracts. I've been with the same carrier my whole life, and if I ever did want to switch a competitor would just pay the buyout.
You save 20 per month on your line access fee by doing the monthly phone pricing, so that knocks 480 off the bill and evens it out pretty much.
Savings. People can save money. 6 in 10 Americans can cover a $500 expense.
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I can't believe that many people cared about contracts. I've been with the same carrier my whole life, and if I ever did want to switch a competitor would just pay the buyout.
Yeah, but service plans are cheaper now. They used to bake in about $250 per year for the cost of the phone they were subsidizing. But if you chose not to get a new phone after two years the bill didn't go down. And if you just wanted a cheap phone, you still payed the same rate as if you'd bought an iPhone or other premium phone.
They've simply broken apart the service and equipment costs.
pretty much all of them. Verizons line access fee used to be 40 dollars per phone per month if you signed a 2 year contract. Now it's 20 if you pay for the phone over 24 months
Mook is describing older contract phone plans vs. today's contract free plans. The old plans you had a 2 year contract and your phone purchases were subsidized, but they baked in a higher line access fee to pay for it. The fee didn't go down when the contract was up.
Today's plans no longer have contracts and they've lowered the line access fees. But there so phone subsidies, so you pay full price for the phone. You can buy it on an interest free 24 month payment plan added to your bill if you choose.
Bottom line: the carriers are not going to reduce your current line access fee in exchange for buying a phone on a payment plan. You'll pay the same amount for service, plus the equipment charge.
My plan got more expensive, and I have no incentive to ever upgrade unless either my phone breaks or im dying for the new shiny toy. I liked it much better the old way.
My plan got more expensive, and I have no incentive to ever upgrade unless either my phone breaks or im dying for the new shiny toy. I liked it much better the old way.
You're with AT&T? They have a two line unlimited plan for $115. Caveats: requires auto-pay, paperless billing and limits video to 480p.
I am getting the watch though. ordered it this morning
with cost baked in
my wife and I have grandfathered unlimited plan ..
it is truly unlimited .. no throttling at all
one month she used 39 gigs of data
so i am kind of stuck
but yes this is big added cost
I would look to get lower cost 7 model on secondary markets
7 turned out to be one of the best iPhone apple ever released