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After getting over Sunday, I am now glad it happened

PatersonPlank : 9/13/2017 12:02 am
Up until this point all we heard was crap like "its just one or two things we need to fix", or "the plays were there we just didn't execute", etc., etc. etc. It was a constant downplaying of the obvious and just expecting the switch to go on. This is what every losing team I have ever rooted for has said. IMO, Parcells would have said something more like we suck.

Then Sunday's embarrassment happened. It was like capitulation in the stock market. I'm hoping all the negative press, national embarrassment, and disgusted player reactions lead McAdoo to finally address this offense issue in a big way. If it forces us to get the right players in there, change the game plans, and alter the in-game play calling, then I think losing week 1 will be well worth it.

We'll see on Monday night, but this capitulation may have saved our season.
Nobody is making these radical changes in-season  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/13/2017 1:01 am : link
There's no practice time to just wave a hand a apply a new offensive scheme, and what players are you getting, from where?

There's a chance they might self-scout some adjustments at the bye week.
Also, what national embarassment?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/13/2017 1:03 am : link
People need to calm down. They lost a game.

They started 0-2 last season. Was your world splitting in two then as well?


The Patriots just gave up a franchise record in points allowed under Belichick. They're still going to play next week.
RE: Also, what national embarassment?  
SethFromAstoria : 9/13/2017 1:43 am : link
In comment 13596725 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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People need to calm down. They lost a game.

They started 0-2 last season. Was your world splitting in two then as well?


The Patriots just gave up a franchise record in points allowed under Belichick. They're still going to play next week.


gotta say...you often post stuff that makes me feel less inclined to chime in. thanks for your rational behavior. this place is pathetic.
RE: Also, what national embarassment?  
micky : 9/13/2017 1:56 am : link
In comment 13596725 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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People need to calm down. They lost a game.

They started 0-2 last season. Was your world splitting in two then as well?


The Patriots just gave up a franchise record in points allowed under Belichick. They're still going to play next week.


umm they started 2-0 last season.
That was embarrassing.  
Mike from SI : 9/13/2017 4:26 am : link
And I'm not glad it happened--I wish the team had played better and the deficiencies we saw weren't real. However, it was only one game, so let's breathe for a while.
I've always preferred getting routed to a close loss.  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/13/2017 5:15 am : link
Give me Sunday's game over the 2015 opener any day. Starting the season with a division loss stinks either way, but there's not much sense of missed opportunity this time.
RE: I've always preferred getting routed to a close loss.  
AnnapolisMike : 9/13/2017 5:24 am : link
In comment 13596751 Big Blue Blogger said:
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Give me Sunday's game over the 2015 opener any day. Starting the season with a division loss stinks either way, but there's not much sense of missed opportunity this time.


A rout is 3 hours of pain and a week of recriminations. I would personally rather enjoy a close game. Also...living in Maryland it has been 4 days of "WTF happened"?
Some want to shrug it off as "just 1 game".  
The_Boss : 9/13/2017 7:39 am : link
Fine.
I'm not one of the eternal optimists who populate this board like subway rats. If you don't recognize there is a very real chance this OL, as currently constructed, is going to torpedo this season, then you haven't been paying attention going back to last year. Sooner or later, you're going to have to score more than 20 points to win a game and this offense is incapable of doing so, with or without Odell. I'm willing to side with the Sunny Blue Sky crowd this week, but if come 7 days from now and the team is staring at 0-3 with a HIGHLY likely loss in week 3, it's time to panic. This thing could snowball to 2-5 by the bye and, if so, you can turn out the lights on 2017.
Losing your top 3 WR and bad O line  
Glover : 9/13/2017 7:45 am : link
that can't make holes, will make any offensive scheme look like crap. They doubled down on a bad O line, chose not to over pay for FA linemen, and didn't take any early in the draft. I never had much faith in that approach, but after one game, at least Flowers has shown a little improvement, and they have to figure something regarding the right side, and I believe they will. I think they can improve from horrible below average. That little bit, along with improvement at the skill positions, led by Beckham, will make them a playoff team, and when they get there if they are a little better than last year, then Eli can show his mettle again. Would feel much better if Eli could stand in the pocket with confidence with the benefit of a strong run game, but that is too much to ask for, so, just a little better has to be enough.
Horrible TO below average  
Glover : 9/13/2017 7:46 am : link
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There's no quick fix to this OL.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/13/2017 7:49 am : link
Unless it's counting on these men upping their game exponentially.

Could it happen? Sure, I guess. But I wouldn't count on it. We all knew it was a gamble to go into this season with the same line. Some, like myself, were probably naive & thought that some of these guys would improve with experience & offseason work. Others were probably right that a lot of these guys just aren't that good & we were courting disaster.
we have no line.  
GMAN4LIFE : 9/13/2017 8:17 am : link
zero line
RE: RE: Also, what national embarassment?  
nygiants16 : 9/13/2017 8:36 am : link
In comment 13596737 micky said:
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In comment 13596725 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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People need to calm down. They lost a game.

They started 0-2 last season. Was your world splitting in two then as well?


The Patriots just gave up a franchise record in points allowed under Belichick. They're still going to play next week.



umm they started 2-0 last season.


then lost 3 in a row, were you calling for the season to be over last year?
The problem is McAdoo  
averagejoe : 9/13/2017 9:10 am : link
and his idiotic WCO scheme. He is committed to it and he thinks it can work with this OL and this QB. He is wrong. If he did not realize this after last season hand him a dunce cap and put him in the corner.

I have very little faith McAdoo can adjust. He is a one trick dink and dunk pony.
RE: The problem is McAdoo  
Dodge : 9/13/2017 9:18 am : link
In comment 13596892 averagejoe said:
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and his idiotic WCO scheme. He is committed to it and he thinks it can work with this OL and this QB. He is wrong. If he did not realize this after last season hand him a dunce cap and put him in the corner.

I have very little faith McAdoo can adjust. He is a one trick dink and dunk pony.


The internet is great place to find dumb.
RE: RE: The problem is McAdoo  
averagejoe : 9/13/2017 9:29 am : link
In comment 13596911 Dodge said:
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In comment 13596892 averagejoe said:


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and his idiotic WCO scheme. He is committed to it and he thinks it can work with this OL and this QB. He is wrong. If he did not realize this after last season hand him a dunce cap and put him in the corner.

I have very little faith McAdoo can adjust. He is a one trick dink and dunk pony.



The internet is great place to find dumb.


You can find dumb in your own mirror. Don't even need the internet.
Hey, I look at it this way....  
Doomster : 9/13/2017 10:33 am : link
No we don't have to listen to all that undefeated season talk....
Someone hit it on the head the other day...  
BillKo : 9/13/2017 11:49 am : link
the personnel, and QB, don't fit this scheme. At least what I am seeing over the final part of last season, and the start to this one.

Remember, in 2014 and 2015, TC was still the HC and most likely still pushing for certain routes and schemes.

Mac took full control in 2016, and really beyond a few games, the offense took a different look. For whatever reasons......who knows.

Now I see throws short of sticks, ugly bubble screens, and plays designed to players that seem to just not fit.

OBJ is the lone exception, he could play in any style offense.
Posted right before the game started  
Bluesbreaker : 9/13/2017 12:56 pm : link
that this will show how much the offense has improved without OBJ there are plenty enough weapons . No real threat at tailback but capable if they get decent blocking .
It didn;t get better it got worse , Whatever the game plan was we can throw it out the window . If it wasn't for the talent on defense they could have hung 35 on us .
In some defense of Eli to me got very little play time in
pre-season and basically zero with Brandon Marshall or
Dwayne Harris . Same goes for the O-line but I wasn't expecting them to perform any better .
So I agree glad we got to see just how putrid the O=line is and how Ben Mac got his butt handed to him downright embarrassment as you saw in his miserable post fame interview .
With our stellar record on MNF against a tough Lions team with an A+ QB who thrives in close 4th quarter games
and Philly on the horizon . Ben Mac has his work cut out for him !
RE: Also, what national embarassment?  
Dinger : 9/13/2017 1:02 pm : link
In comment 13596725 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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People need to calm down. They lost a game.

They started 0-2 last season. Was your world splitting in two then as well?


The Patriots just gave up a franchise record in points allowed under Belichick. They're still going to play next week.


Good point but they did play on national TV and they were only able to score one field goal. They've done that once since 1960 or something to that extent. And this AFTER the GM and Coach pretty much said we'll stand pat on the O line and improve the offense with more weapons. nether of which really worked on Monday.
RE: Hey, I look at it this way....  
Dinger : 9/13/2017 1:04 pm : link
In comment 13597070 Doomster said:
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No we don't have to listen to all that undefeated season talk....


True. They can give those 19 and 0 tshirts away in Ethiopia now.
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