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One Giant Victory: Oral History of SB42 Game-Winning Drive

Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/13/2017 6:26 pm
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That is a great, great read  
Go Terps : 9/13/2017 7:07 pm : link
Where does the time go?
Love re-living that.  
bceagle05 : 9/13/2017 7:41 pm : link
Poor Bill Simmons - five titles and we still fucked him over.
That was great  
ChathamMark : 9/13/2017 7:49 pm : link
Still exciting. One thing I read a few years back is that the same football Tyree caught was kept in the game due to the fast pace at the time, and was the same football Burress caught for the touchdown. Burress has the ball I'm pretty sure. That's a special football.
RE: Love re-living that.  
djm : 9/13/2017 9:42 pm : link
In comment 13598029 bceagle05 said:
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Poor Bill Simmons - five titles and we still fucked him over.


Cry me a fucking river there Bill. Your team wins five count them five Super Bowls with every one of them being close down the wire affairs and poor Bill and the pats fan can't get over this one. Crying that the Giants got lucky. Wahh.
Interesting tidbit about Toomer  
bluepepper : 9/13/2017 10:08 pm : link
On the 3rd and 10 he caught a pass a yard short of the first down. If you look at the play he caught the ball and was on the ground untouched. He made no effort to get up or roll forward a yard. Not that he would have gotten the first, there was a defender there, but he just kind of lays there seemingly content with the catch.

Now in this piece he says:
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I was shocked that it was fourth down. I couldn't believe that it was fourth down

It sounds to me like he's saying he didn't realize that the catch was a 3rd down play. Huge difference between 3rd and 1 versus 4th and 1 in that situation. If he thought it was a 3rd and 1 coming up then not fighting for the yard and protecting the ball makes a lot more sense. It also means he lost track of downs on the biggest drive of his life which is kind of a wowser.
Amazing read  
Sonic Youth : 9/14/2017 12:07 am : link
one of the best days of my life
God, what a game that was...  
j_rud : 9/14/2017 2:28 am : link
I gotta say, reading that kinda put some things in perspective with this current team. Not that I find the current issues any less maddening, but it's easy to forget: we're on the right side of one of the greatest moments in NFL history. In American sports, period. A seemingly unbeatable opponent beaten with some historic, unbelievable moments along the way. People follow sports their entire lives and don't even sniff a moment like that. That team gave us all a gift that, as fans, will never be equaled.
Awesome read  
rocco8112 : 9/14/2017 7:59 am : link
42 was the pinnacle for me as a sports fan. Still hard to believe it happened and that it was a decade ago. It was like a sports movie come tp life.
RE: God, what a game that was...  
rebel yell : 9/14/2017 8:04 am : link
In comment 13598212 j_rud said:
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I gotta say, reading that kinda put some things in perspective with this current team. Not that I find the current issues any less maddening, but it's easy to forget: we're on the right side of one of the greatest moments in NFL history. In American sports, period. A seemingly unbeatable opponent beaten with some historic, unbelievable moments along the way. People follow sports their entire lives and don't even sniff a moment like that. That team gave us all a gift that, as fans, will never be equaled.

This is well stated. As a Giants fan you live your entire life filled with "hope" and a moment like this comes along that fulfills that and so much more. It was magical on so many levels. Having fully experienced it, it makes the lows much more bearable...and we need that right now!
My 2 cents on the Samuel "interception"  
BillT : 9/14/2017 8:16 am : link
I've watched that play a dozen times. There were two replays. The second was fron an angle behind Eli like Papa describes was his view. It was in slo mo. On my DVR I watched the slo mo in DVR slo mo.

No chance Samuel catches that ball. Not then and not if he had another 100 chances. It was thrown right at him. He jumps to high point the ball and reaches up with both hands. With the ball a yard away it looks like an easy catch and that's what everyone remembers. But then, Samuel realizes that the ball is too high to catch it with both hands. He drops his left hand and stretches for it with his right. It glances off his fingertips. The most he could get on the ball were his right hand fingertips on the underside of the ball. The ball was just not catchable. Cool story bro?
RE: Interesting tidbit about Toomer  
Bob from Massachusetts : 9/14/2017 8:21 am : link
In comment 13598147 bluepepper said:
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On the 3rd and 10 he caught a pass a yard short of the first down. If you look at the play he caught the ball and was on the ground untouched. He made no effort to get up or roll forward a yard. Not that he would have gotten the first, there was a defender there, but he just kind of lays there seemingly content with the catch.

Now in this piece he says:


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I was shocked that it was fourth down. I couldn't believe that it was fourth down


It sounds to me like he's saying he didn't realize that the catch was a 3rd down play. Huge difference between 3rd and 1 versus 4th and 1 in that situation. If he thought it was a 3rd and 1 coming up then not fighting for the yard and protecting the ball makes a lot more sense. It also means he lost track of downs on the biggest drive of his life which is kind of a wowser.


I think he means more that he thought he had enough yards. And he was pretty close, but in that situation, it's only a half yard off. Yes, he had about 2 seconds to realize he might be short and roll over. How many people here would say that in that situation they would realize they might be a little short and roll over before the defender touches them? My guess is not many
RE: My 2 cents on the Samuel  
rebel yell : 9/14/2017 8:35 am : link
In comment 13598244 BillT said:
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I've watched that play a dozen times. There were two replays. The second was fron an angle behind Eli like Papa describes was his view. It was in slo mo. On my DVR I watched the slo mo in DVR slo mo.

No chance Samuel catches that ball. Not then and not if he had another 100 chances. It was thrown right at him. He jumps to high point the ball and reaches up with both hands. With the ball a yard away it looks like an easy catch and that's what everyone remembers. But then, Samuel realizes that the ball is too high to catch it with both hands. He drops his left hand and stretches for it with his right. It glances off his fingertips. The most he could get on the ball were his right hand fingertips on the underside of the ball. The ball was just not catchable. Cool story bro?


I totally agree, not to mention that there's a very good chance even if he came down with it his momentum would have carried at least one foot (if not both) out of bounds. These woulda'/coulda' scenarios are always far-fetched.
One of the all time great games  
HomerJones45 : 9/14/2017 10:14 am : link
well played, well coached between two very well prepared teams, just a great game.
RE: RE: Interesting tidbit about Toomer  
bluepepper : 9/14/2017 11:11 am : link
In comment 13598248 Bob from Massachusetts said:
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In comment 13598147 bluepepper said:


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On the 3rd and 10 he caught a pass a yard short of the first down. If you look at the play he caught the ball and was on the ground untouched. He made no effort to get up or roll forward a yard. Not that he would have gotten the first, there was a defender there, but he just kind of lays there seemingly content with the catch.

Now in this piece he says:


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I was shocked that it was fourth down. I couldn't believe that it was fourth down


It sounds to me like he's saying he didn't realize that the catch was a 3rd down play. Huge difference between 3rd and 1 versus 4th and 1 in that situation. If he thought it was a 3rd and 1 coming up then not fighting for the yard and protecting the ball makes a lot more sense. It also means he lost track of downs on the biggest drive of his life which is kind of a wowser.



I think he means more that he thought he had enough yards. And he was pretty close, but in that situation, it's only a half yard off. Yes, he had about 2 seconds to realize he might be short and roll over. How many people here would say that in that situation they would realize they might be a little short and roll over before the defender touches them? My guess is not many

OK, thought he had the first makes sense but then again it just means he didn't know where the marker was. Love Amani and not knocking him just trying to understand why he didn't do more to get the first down when he was so close. If Jacobs is stopped on the next play then I think this would have gotten a lot of attention.
The most phenomenal 2:42 of my football fandom life!!!  
GiantBlue : 9/14/2017 11:18 am : link
Just think about all the present and future HOF'ers on the field for that drive and on the sidelines.

The perfection...how each play almost spelled the end or propelled events forward.

I still remember exactly the emotions I felt during that drive....My confidence in Eli that he was the clutch QB that would lead us down the field.

OMG....Amazing!
The most underrated block of the season IMO...  
x meadowlander : 9/14/2017 11:25 am : link
3rd and 11 - the Steve Smith screen play, just barely getting to the first down marker.

Look at the video from :19 through :36 - Amani Toomers perfect chip block is what allowed Smith to get all those yards.
Such a great read! Chills all over again!  
TheMick7 : 9/14/2017 11:27 am : link
18-1!!!
That was terrific  
djm : 9/14/2017 11:41 am : link
Thanks
RE: Interesting tidbit about Toomer  
x meadowlander : 9/14/2017 11:42 am : link
In comment 13598147 bluepepper said:
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On the 3rd and 10 he caught a pass a yard short of the first down. If you look at the play he caught the ball and was on the ground untouched. He made no effort to get up or roll forward a yard. Not that he would have gotten the first, there was a defender there, but he just kind of lays there seemingly content with the catch.

Now in this piece he says:


Quote:


I was shocked that it was fourth down. I couldn't believe that it was fourth down


It sounds to me like he's saying he didn't realize that the catch was a 3rd down play. Huge difference between 3rd and 1 versus 4th and 1 in that situation. If he thought it was a 3rd and 1 coming up then not fighting for the yard and protecting the ball makes a lot more sense. It also means he lost track of downs on the biggest drive of his life which is kind of a wowser.
As I pointed out above, Toomer MORE than made up for it with his phenomenal chip block on the Steve Smith play.
As good as it gets  
EliIsEliteX2 : 9/14/2017 11:55 am : link
I still get emotional when watching or reading about that game. As others have mentioned, you can spend your entire life as a sports fan waiting for a moment like that. And even if it does come there is no guarantee that things will go your way. I have experienced some unbelievable moments as a sports fan in my life but this one will always be head and shoulders above the rest.
Man, I miss Brandon....  
Britt in VA : 9/14/2017 11:59 am : link
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Brandon Jacobs Giants RB
I had been talking noise to Richard Seymour because he had said something. So he starts running off at the mouth and Im like, Bro, were about to beat yall, you might as well get up and get ready to eat it up and walk off the field and just take this huge embarrassment to win 18 games and come here to get beat in the Super Bowl. Youre about to be embarrassed. I told them that. I was like, Im going to get this fourth-and-one.
I loved that read  
jvm52106 : 9/14/2017 2:11 pm : link
well done. There is something so magical about that team and game. I had my own radio show back in VT during this time. I made a prediction on air that the Giants would beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl. Not many people were picking the Giants to make the playoffs let alone the Super Bowl.

I did a Super Bowl pre-game show from a bar in Essex, VT right before the game. While I was live on air a Patriots fan walked in front of me wearing a Patriots jacket that had the previous Patriots Championships listed with the Super Bowl Trophies. He yells something to me about the Jacket and the Championships. I stop mid sentence and go Sir that is a nice jacket. It is, that is awesome. You know what is best about that jacket? You won't need a new come tomorrow...

It was perfect..The room was pretty divided with fans but that moment was perfect as a lifelong Giant fan...
RE: Man, I miss Brandon....  
HomerJones45 : 9/14/2017 2:14 pm : link
In comment 13598510 Britt in VA said:
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Brandon Jacobs Giants RB
I had been talking noise to Richard Seymour because he had said something. So he starts running off at the mouth and Im like, Bro, were about to beat yall, you might as well get up and get ready to eat it up and walk off the field and just take this huge embarrassment to win 18 games and come here to get beat in the Super Bowl. Youre about to be embarrassed. I told them that. I was like, Im going to get this fourth-and-one.

Big man made two unsung plays on the winning drive: the 4th and 1 play and scaring the shit out of Rodney Harrison who was coming on the blitz. Harrison pulled up when he saw the big guy coming over to pick him up. Harrison knew he wasn't getting through Jacobs.
Beautiful...  
GA5 : 9/14/2017 2:49 pm : link
just beautiful!
RE: My 2 cents on the Samuel  
BJ Slade : 9/14/2017 4:13 pm : link
In comment 13598244 BillT said:
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I've watched that play a dozen times. There were two replays. The second was fron an angle behind Eli like Papa describes was his view. It was in slo mo. On my DVR I watched the slo mo in DVR slo mo.

No chance Samuel catches that ball. Not then and not if he had another 100 chances. It was thrown right at him. He jumps to high point the ball and reaches up with both hands. With the ball a yard away it looks like an easy catch and that's what everyone remembers. But then, Samuel realizes that the ball is too high to catch it with both hands. He drops his left hand and stretches for it with his right. It glances off his fingertips. The most he could get on the ball were his right hand fingertips on the underside of the ball. The ball was just not catchable. Cool story bro?


Totally agree. I never understood how that was referred to as a "dropped" INT. Aikman saying he would never have an easier interception in his career is sheer lunacy.
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