look no further than this matchup and TNF in general. Both teams with legit playoff aspirations and they look as bad as we did last week. The product just fucking sucks.
OL play for both teams is pretty poor. Watson and Dalton are being constantly harassed and hit. The difference is they are mobile. Eli is not. The Texans are of course missing Brown. The Bengals have spent a lot of high draft picks on their OL recently IIRC. Not sure about Houston.
The bad OL play favors short, quick throws. Defenders know this, so they sit on the routes. Watson has almost been picked off twice. Some of that is inexperience. He is holding the ball too long, undoubtedly because he's still understandably confused by NFL coverages and adjusting to the speed of the game. But he's also running for his life on many plays right after the snap.
league-wide poor OL play are spot on.
That won't help us in the draft since we will have to settle for a 2nd or 3rd tier player, unless we go standings BASEMENT ROCKIN' FOR BLOCKIN'.
did on Sunday despite being more mobile. People really need to take a step back and actually look at what's going on. It sucks the Giants are going through it, but it looks more common than many like to admit.
Arc, sorry about the snark. You're right. There's just been this annoying almost absolving of the OL on here because blocking sucks elsewhere. The Giants problems aren't due to a league wide OL crisis. Our OL has been bad for a very long time. Sorry for coming across douchey.
but more pointing out on the 400 OL threads that this isn't a Giants specific problem. None of us can change what's happening, but it's somewhat easier to swallow knowing 2 other playoff hopefully looks as shitty or worse than we do on the OLine. I wish it wasn't this way but it is and we are all going to have to get used to seeing it.
It's cool, man - I get it. I'm as frustrated as anyone. We've got to be better offensively. Sunday night was pathetic.
I just can't remember line play being this poor around the league in all my years watching football. It's terrible.
I watched most of SEA/GB on Sunday and Rodgers/Wilson were running for their lives constantly. It's like you get 2 seconds before a defensive lineman or linebacker gets into the backfield. Sometimes less. And with a zero-mobility QB like Eli, it's a disaster.
We have to find a way to run the football because we're going to be doomed if we don't.
now he grossly overshoots a wide open LaFell. The boos have started. Eli did the same thing on Sunday night. He missed wide open receivers. Is that caused by how many times they've already been hit?
bad OL play limit blitzes? Why blitz when if you can stuff the run and get pressure with just four or five? Drop everyone else back in coverage. Doing so also protects your secondary, who are already at a disadvantage because PI rules so favor receivers.
bad OL play limit blitzes? Why blitz when if you can stuff the run and get pressure with just four or five? Drop everyone else back in coverage. Doing so also protects your secondary, who are already at a disadvantage because PI rules so favor receivers.
I think it depends on the team you're playing - there are still times where blitzing will be effective, but if teams can't run the ball against light boxes and still allow pressures against standard fronts, there's not much reason to use anyone in your back 7 as an extra rusher.
is throwing a lot of quick hitting passes and screens to negate the Texans's pass rush. Twenty yard dig routes are out. They are moving the ball, but it's not surprisingly taken them a lot of plays to get to the twenty.
Bengals offensive sure looks a lot like the Giants offense Â
Lewis has to cut the crap with this RB carousel. Let this kid play an entire drive. Stop taking him off the field every 3rd down. It's fine to mix Bernard in on some passing downs but Mixon is without a doubt the most talented back they have. Let him rock for a while. What he's doing is so stupid.
You're not letting any RB get into any sort of rhythm by doing this. And they wonder why they still haven't scored a TD this year.
People need to watch other NFL games - these QB's are under constant pressure just like ours is.
People need to watch other NFL games - these QB's are under constant pressure just like ours is.
it goes to the fact, that offensive linemen at lower levels college etc aren't being developed anymore...its a passing games these days.
People need to watch other NFL games - these QB's are under constant pressure just like ours is.
Cool. We haven't scored 20 points in 7 games.
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No one can fucking block. It's ridiculous.
People need to watch other NFL games - these QB's are under constant pressure just like ours is.
Cool. We haven't scored 20 points in 7 games.
Wasn't my point - thanks for the snarky response, though!
The bad OL play favors short, quick throws. Defenders know this, so they sit on the routes. Watson has almost been picked off twice. Some of that is inexperience. He is holding the ball too long, undoubtedly because he's still understandably confused by NFL coverages and adjusting to the speed of the game. But he's also running for his life on many plays right after the snap.
That won't help us in the draft since we will have to settle for a 2nd or 3rd tier player, unless we go standings BASEMENT ROCKIN' FOR BLOCKIN'.
Agreed.
I just can't remember line play being this poor around the league in all my years watching football. It's terrible.
I watched most of SEA/GB on Sunday and Rodgers/Wilson were running for their lives constantly. It's like you get 2 seconds before a defensive lineman or linebacker gets into the backfield. Sometimes less. And with a zero-mobility QB like Eli, it's a disaster.
We have to find a way to run the football because we're going to be doomed if we don't.
I think it depends on the team you're playing - there are still times where blitzing will be effective, but if teams can't run the ball against light boxes and still allow pressures against standard fronts, there's not much reason to use anyone in your back 7 as an extra rusher.
WOW. Watson with a great run for a TD. About 50 yards. Bad tackling, but that was impressive.
You're not letting any RB get into any sort of rhythm by doing this. And they wonder why they still haven't scored a TD this year.