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Raanan: Don't be surprised to see Beckham play on Monday

Dave in Hoboken : 9/15/2017 5:28 pm
Jordan just tweeted:

Jordan Raanan& #8207;Verified account @JordanRaanan 1m1 minute ago

Don't be surprised to see Odell Beckham play Monday night. Everything seems to be trending in that direction barring a setback, per source.
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I'd be surprised  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/15/2017 5:29 pm : link
not to see him play, though I also thought he'd play vs. Dallas.
RE: I'd be surprised  
nygiants16 : 9/15/2017 5:30 pm : link
In comment 13599927 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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not to see him play, though I also thought he'd play vs. Dallas.


this is how i feel and like you i thought there was no chance he didnt play last week...

Jordan got a ton of shit for saying he heard from a source that Beckha  
robbieballs2003 : 9/15/2017 5:39 pm : link
could miss week one shortly after the initial hit. He was proven right about that so I will give him the benefit here.
Collinsworth said on the broadcast that he was surprised that OBJ  
JohnB : 9/15/2017 5:40 pm : link
wasn't out there at least as a decoy.

I think he'll be out there but I'm not sure how effective he will be.
RE: Jordan got a ton of shit for saying he heard from a source that Beckha  
nygiants16 : 9/15/2017 5:40 pm : link
In comment 13599936 robbieballs2003 said:
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could miss week one shortly after the initial hit. He was proven right about that so I will give him the benefit here.


he got shit because he weote it so vague that he couldnt be wrong
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arcarsenal : 9/15/2017 5:43 pm : link
I say rest him for another month. He needs to be 100%.
Francessa's  
Ron Johnson : 9/15/2017 5:44 pm : link
Injury doc says he thinks obj shouldn't play. He'll only be 70% and could re-injure and set himself back a few weeks.

Fwiw
Honestly  
ThatLimerickGuy : 9/15/2017 5:53 pm : link
I'm sick of hearing about it.

If he is INJURED he needs to stay out until he is no longer injured.

If he is HURT then he should be suiting up, but then again we are dealing with O- Business Decision Beckham after all.

RE: Francessa's  
nygiants16 : 9/15/2017 5:54 pm : link
In comment 13599945 Ron Johnson said:
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Injury doc says he thinks obj shouldn't play. He'll only be 70% and could re-injure and set himself back a few weeks.

Fwiw


i never understood this, how can a doctor who has never seen the player make a diagnosis?
RE: Honestly  
arcarsenal : 9/15/2017 5:56 pm : link
In comment 13599955 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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I'm sick of hearing about it.

If he is INJURED he needs to stay out until he is no longer injured.

If he is HURT then he should be suiting up, but then again we are dealing with O- Business Decision Beckham after all.


We're just as sick of your ridiculous take on the situation, too.. trust me.

O=Business Decision Beckham?

Brutal.
RE: RE: Francessa's  
arcarsenal : 9/15/2017 5:57 pm : link
In comment 13599956 nygiants16 said:
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Injury doc says he thinks obj shouldn't play. He'll only be 70% and could re-injure and set himself back a few weeks.

Fwiw



i never understood this, how can a doctor who has never seen the player make a diagnosis?


It's the new trend - the Twitter Doctor started it. Apparently you can make accurate diagnosis' through a TV screen these days.
Hey, at least he didn't say he was visiting the Midwest  
jcn56 : 9/15/2017 5:58 pm : link
Gay Club Scene.
RE: Honestly  
UConn4523 : 9/15/2017 6:16 pm : link
In comment 13599955 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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I'm sick of hearing about it.

If he is INJURED he needs to stay out until he is no longer injured.

If he is HURT then he should be suiting up, but then again we are dealing with O- Business Decision Beckham after all.


Great post, I feel better about myself after reading that.
Thats good to hear  
ZogZerg : 9/15/2017 6:22 pm : link
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RE: .  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/15/2017 6:33 pm : link
In comment 13599943 arcarsenal said:
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I say rest him for another month. He needs to be 100%.


Arc, I was hoping we'd keep him out until the Cards game on Christmas Eve. Odell returns...am early Christmas present.
I'd hate if he sat  
old man : 9/15/2017 6:44 pm : link
from a W-L perspective but I'm fine with it from an overall perspective. Get healthy.
Without him we will find out about our sub's and this offensive, WCO-type scheme of MCs.
Given our OL this may be a tough season anyway, no sense destroying our star WR.
RE: Collinsworth said on the broadcast that he was surprised that OBJ  
McNally's_Nuts : 9/15/2017 6:45 pm : link
In comment 13599938 JohnB said:
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wasn't out there at least as a decoy.

I think he'll be out there but I'm not sure how effective he will be.


Having him as a decoy would have been good for about 6 plays. Cowboys would have figured it out quickly.

It's like when Gronk tried to play in Super Bowl 46. They just put Blackburn on him
I think the Giant coaches decided to use Marshall as a decoy  
Jimmy Googs : 9/15/2017 6:55 pm : link
instead...
I'm not sure why people are acting like this is  
eclipz928 : 9/15/2017 7:01 pm : link
some sort of exotic injury - hasn't everyone had a sprain ankle at some point in their life?

Every one I've had took a couple weeks before being able to run straight on it, and a few more weeks to be able bare weight to shift directions.

Don't have to be a doctor to know he still needs some more time before he's back to 100%. He probably should take at least another week off.
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arcarsenal : 9/15/2017 7:03 pm : link
In comment 13599981 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I say rest him for another month. He needs to be 100%.



Arc, I was hoping we'd keep him out until the Cards game on Christmas Eve. Odell returns...am early Christmas present.


Even better.
RE: RE: Jordan got a ton of shit for saying he heard from a source that Beckha  
santacruzom : 9/15/2017 7:05 pm : link
In comment 13599939 nygiants16 said:
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could miss week one shortly after the initial hit. He was proven right about that so I will give him the benefit here.



he got shit because he weote it so vague that he couldnt be wrong


That's dumb. Of course he wouldn't have declared definitively that Beckham would miss week one two weeks in advance for an ankle sprain.
RE: RE: Jordan got a ton of shit for saying he heard from a source that Beckha  
Mike from SI : 9/15/2017 7:15 pm : link
In comment 13599939 nygiants16 said:
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could miss week one shortly after the initial hit. He was proven right about that so I will give him the benefit here.



he got shit because he weote it so vague that he couldnt be wrong


Bullshit. People roasted him on here for no reason and he was proven right. I never saw any apology threads or people admitting they were wrong for roasting him.
People hate the media around here until they're angry enough  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/15/2017 7:47 pm : link
at the team that they take the opposite side just to be able to project their dissatisfaction.
People take this whole "has to be 100%" thing  
UConn4523 : 9/15/2017 7:51 pm : link
way too far. Players play less than 100% the majority of the season. We throw out these percentages that we are comfortable with and it's all BS. If he can cut on the ankle, be relatively pain free and is cleared by doctors, why wouldn't we want him out there?
People blasted Jordan and Graziano  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/15/2017 7:51 pm : link
Because it was complete speculation. When you throw out words like 'could' and 'possibly', you're hedging your bets. They turned out to be right re. Week 1.
The thread on it was absurd  
hitdog42 : 9/15/2017 7:52 pm : link
And attempts to set people straight fell on deaf ears with some.

He has solid access
RE: RE: RE: Jordan got a ton of shit for saying he heard from a source that Beckha  
nygiants16 : 9/15/2017 7:53 pm : link
In comment 13600003 Mike from SI said:
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In comment 13599936 robbieballs2003 said:


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could miss week one shortly after the initial hit. He was proven right about that so I will give him the benefit here.



he got shit because he weote it so vague that he couldnt be wrong



Bullshit. People roasted him on here for no reason and he was proven right. I never saw any apology threads or people admitting they were wrong for roasting him.


so would he have been wrong if beckham played?
RE: People take this whole  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/15/2017 7:59 pm : link
In comment 13600020 UConn4523 said:
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way too far. Players play less than 100% the majority of the season. We throw out these percentages that we are comfortable with and it's all BS. If he can cut on the ankle, be relatively pain free and is cleared by doctors, why wouldn't we want him out there?


I think people are knowledgeable enough that they understand that "100%" is a figure of speech. Not being sarcastic here.

Nobody is playing at 100% in the NFL after week 1. Playing an NFL season is like being involved in a car accident every week for 4 months. In NFL terms, "100%" means "healthy enough to play without risk of re-injury".
RE: RE: People take this whole  
UConn4523 : 9/15/2017 8:02 pm : link
In comment 13600027 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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way too far. Players play less than 100% the majority of the season. We throw out these percentages that we are comfortable with and it's all BS. If he can cut on the ankle, be relatively pain free and is cleared by doctors, why wouldn't we want him out there?



I think people are knowledgeable enough that they understand that "100%" is a figure of speech. Not being sarcastic here.

Nobody is playing at 100% in the NFL after week 1. Playing an NFL season is like being involved in a car accident every week for 4 months. In NFL terms, "100%" means "healthy enough to play without risk of re-injury".


I get that, it just makes me laugh when I see "if he's at 80% then just sit out". Arbitrary numbers about medical conditions and symptoms that are unknown to anyone but the player, the medical staff and the coaches.

If he can go he should play. That's generally what happens in sports.
RE: RE: Collinsworth said on the broadcast that he was surprised that OBJ  
KeoweeFan : 9/15/2017 8:50 pm : link
In comment 13599986 McNally's_Nuts said:
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wasn't out there at least as a decoy.

I think he'll be out there but I'm not sure how effective he will be.



Having him as a decoy would have been good for about 6 plays. Cowboys would have figured it out quickly.

It's like when Gronk tried to play in Super Bowl 46. They just put Blackburn on him

We might have done something in those first 6 plays.
Jus' sayin'.
Have OBJ run fly patterns initially  
KeoweeFan : 9/15/2017 8:52 pm : link
That will take someone to cover him.
When they catch on, sit him.
It is better than no contribution.
What we found out is OBJ is human  
Bluesbreaker : 9/15/2017 9:20 pm : link
We also reminded that we can't score without him ok I am exaggerating . If he happens to miss a 2nd game and the offense fails to score TD's again then this offense is severely flawed be it the concept play calls what have you .
If he does play I can't imagine he is 100% so how effective will he be myself I would rather sit him and make sure he is
100% no matter what the media speculates .
Beckham is smart enough  
CT Charlie : 9/15/2017 9:22 pm : link
to know the right decision for himself: sit, half-speed occasional decoy, or full speed.
RE: Honestly  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/15/2017 9:29 pm : link
In comment 13599955 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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I'm sick of hearing about it.

If he is INJURED he needs to stay out until he is no longer injured.

If he is HURT then he should be suiting up, but then again we are dealing with O- Business Decision Beckham after all.

Tell us again about the midwest club scene, tool.
RE: RE: RE: Jordan got a ton of shit for saying he heard from a source that Beckha  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/15/2017 9:32 pm : link
In comment 13600001 santacruzom said:
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could miss week one shortly after the initial hit. He was proven right about that so I will give him the benefit here.



he got shit because he weote it so vague that he couldnt be wrong



That's dumb. Of course he wouldn't have declared definitively that Beckham would miss week one two weeks in advance for an ankle sprain.

Didn't stop him from clickbait hack journalism. Just like when he supposedly saw Shepard crying from a full field away.

Raanan is a hack. I wouldn't trust good news from any more than I dismiss bad news from him.
RE: The thread on it was absurd  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/15/2017 9:33 pm : link
In comment 13600022 hitdog42 said:
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And attempts to set people straight fell on deaf ears with some.

He has solid access

Not solid enough to see Shepard cry.

He's a run of the mill beat guy who acts like he's got some sort of special access behind the curtain.
Ankles are tricky  
ChicagoMarty : 9/15/2017 10:42 pm : link
I've had a bunch of them.

One day you wake up and it feels good

That's it

There is really no predicting exactly when that one day is.
RE: The thread on it was absurd  
JordanRaanan : 9/15/2017 10:56 pm : link
In comment 13600022 hitdog42 said:
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And attempts to set people straight fell on deaf ears with some.

He has solid access


That means a lot coming from hitdog, who in my assessment gets the most accurate inside info on this site. Appreciate the kind words.
There is no way he is healed  
32_Razor : 9/15/2017 11:00 pm : link
I would wait. He can easily reinjure.
The Giants iffense  
joeinpa : 9/16/2017 8:41 am : link
That we saw last week needs more than Beckham to be competitive

He s help but other guys, including the staff needs to step up.
RE: The Giants iffense  
nygiants16 : 9/16/2017 9:06 am : link
In comment 13600156 joeinpa said:
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That we saw last week needs more than Beckham to be competitive

He s help but other guys, including the staff needs to step up.


One thing with beckham on the field defense has to guesz more because you can move him all over the field, it forces the defense to roll coverages and open up the field a little bit more...

dallas basically played zone the entire game and didnt have to worry about really anyone...

We have two different forces,  
Doomster : 9/16/2017 10:05 am : link
pulling at the end of the same rope.....

On one end, we have the Giant management needing OBj to get out there as soon as possible, or this season could be over before it's even started.....on the other end, you have OBj looking at this from his own personal perspective.....he wants a new contract/extension.....he knows he won't get it if he is damaged goods.....for him, it could be Steve Smith all over again.....he would be crazy to risk injury, by coming back too soon.....

So the Giants have another Cruz situation.....he will be ready next week....next week comes, and he will be ready next week......and so on, and so on....

So what do the Giant's do? They would be crazy, to give OBj a big contract in hopes of getting him out there sooner, because OBj would have that guaranteed money in his back pocket, to cover the risk of further injury......and the Giants could be throwing Cap money out the window, if they force him to come back too early with a contract, and he becomes injured again.....

This season could become a sacrificial lamb for the future of this team.....can the Giants really afford OBj?

Do the Giants have a plan for this franchise in the future? They obviously didn't after 2011....some tough decisions have to be made....sign OBj to a big contract, franchise him(which will not make for a happy OBj), or trade him....it's a tough decision....

I don't think the Giants can beat Detroit, without a healthy OBj.....0-2 into Philly and he might still not be ready(wink, wink)....a season that had a lot of promise, could be all over......

This team's strength, is it's starters....we can't afford injuries......Unless Marshall and Eli become joined at the hip in this next game, without OBj, this season will take a nosedive....

Yes, I know most will say it's Doom being Doom.....I had high hopes for this team......I thought this OL would be better.....I thought the new weapons could make up for no OBj.....but that first game, reminded me Of the Minny game without OBj.....this offense is so one dimensional....you have to have Eli and OBj playing at their peak to win.....lose either one, or have either one play poorly, and this offense is a shambles.....the defense can only do so much.....Losing OBj for any extended period of time, is the same as losing Eli.....you need both playing at the top of their game, for this offense to succeed....

So unless we have a miracle, and OBj not only walks onto that field, and plays like only OBj can, it looks like another one of those anticipated seasons may be down the drain.....
tet  
Gregorio : 9/16/2017 11:20 am : link
Mike from SI said:
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People roasted him on here for no reason and he was proven right. I never saw any apology threads or people admitting they were wrong for roasting him.


This is wrong on many levels. There was very good reason to complain about the story. It was poorly written and poorly substantiated. No apology threads are needed. What is needed is better reporting.
I would be surprised to see Beckham on the field before game 5!  
SterlingArcher : 9/16/2017 1:04 pm : link
Look at the history of the Giants wr's/TE's who have leg injuries, Steve Smith, Hakeem Nicks, Victor Cruz, Jake Ballard, they never seem to be the same.
RE: I would be surprised to see Beckham on the field before game 5!  
nygiants16 : 9/16/2017 1:11 pm : link
In comment 13600274 SterlingArcher said:
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Look at the history of the Giants wr's/TE's who have leg injuries, Steve Smith, Hakeem Nicks, Victor Cruz, Jake Ballard, they never seem to be the same.


what are you talking about?

nicks destoryed his feet..

victor cruz had a torn patella tendon

jake ballard tore every ligament in his knee..

steve smith had microfracture surgery...

how are any of these equal to beckham? plus beckham is already back on the practice field
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