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How impressive is high school football in your area?

Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/16/2017 3:13 pm
I went to a dinky little high school. Our football team wasn't good offensively at all. Couldn't pass at all. We used to win or lose low-scoring games. The teams in the division were almost all run first offenses.

So my eldest is now in high school and playing in the marching band so I go every Friday night to watch. Man, I am impressed. The school operates out of the pistol offense and the team can throw out of a variety of spread-offense packages. They even audible and run a lot of nifty misdirection running plays - many which break big runs. The biggest problem they have is penalties (I swear they must have 20 holding and false start penalties in the last two games).

I wonder if the HS game has evolved like this around the country?
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CoughlinHandsonHips : 9/16/2017 3:24 pm : link
Pretty much the same as you. We ran an option offense. Either the QB keeps it or pitches it to the RB.

Not much down field passing that I can remember. Even from opponents.

Went to school in upstate NY in the late 90s.
CoughlinHandsonHips  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/16/2017 3:26 pm : link
Yup, central New York here...near Utica. It was run, run, run.

The team in my area now throws deep more often than the Giants do. In two games, there have been NFL-worthy type catches in the end zone.
I live right down the road from Kahuku High School (Hawaii)  
SimpleMan : 9/16/2017 3:33 pm : link
which is very high level. They have some players in the NFL and consistently produce D-1 talent. They are usually ranked nationally and win the state championship often. High School football is huge here on Oahu. Lot of talent statewide and lot of good rivalries. The games are awesome to go to.
I live around the block From Bishop Gorman  
gtt350 : 9/16/2017 3:37 pm : link
like watching college ball
High School football where I live in North Texas is better than  
PatersonPlank : 9/16/2017 3:42 pm : link
Rutgers.
Bergen County New Jersey Catholics....  
Crispino : 9/16/2017 3:46 pm : link
play in what is widely regarded as the toughest league in the country.
And no, Texas high school football is not better than Rutgers. Not even close.
RE: Bergen County New Jersey Catholics....  
PatersonPlank : 9/16/2017 3:50 pm : link
In comment 13600381 Crispino said:
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play in what is widely regarded as the toughest league in the country.
And no, Texas high school football is not better than Rutgers. Not even close.


Yes it is
I'm from Northern Texas  
Hereditaryemperor : 9/16/2017 3:51 pm : link
so High school football is in my blood lol

We live breath sleep and do football. Such a shame since I moved to NJ.
Flat out wrong.  
Crispino : 9/16/2017 3:56 pm : link
Period.
RE: Flat out wrong.  
PatersonPlank : 9/16/2017 4:00 pm : link
In comment 13600387 Crispino said:
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Period.


I said that tongue in cheek obviously. I think RU would win by 3. Although the more I see of this RU- Morgan St game I may change my opinion.
I went to Sachem High School...  
Milton : 9/16/2017 4:14 pm : link
We graduated Jumbo Elliott.

And these days I live walking distance from Notre Dame High School in Sherman Oaks, which is a baseball and football dynasty. A bunch of guys in the NFL graduated from there, but I haven't attended a single game.
Didn't get that from your post.  
Crispino : 9/16/2017 4:14 pm : link
TD not the first time I've heard it, so I may have overreacted a bit.
Rutgers goes down  
floridagiantsfan : 9/16/2017 4:16 pm : link
There are several teams here in Florida that would be favored against Rutgers on a neutral field. IMG, St Thomas Aquinas come to mind immediately.
South Florida  
SuperRonJohnson : 9/16/2017 4:17 pm : link
football. So many great athletes. But the crowds and football atmosphere does not compare to upstate NY. People don't come to the games as much here- Port St Lucie/Fort Pierce.
The difference is also in the technique  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 9/16/2017 4:19 pm : link
When I was in high school, you weren't taught much technique on the defensive line. Some of these kids at the NJ Catholics look like they've been in NFL training camps with their use of hands and positioning. Especially Bosco under Toal.
My high school team  
pjcas18 : 9/16/2017 4:25 pm : link
was kind of a throwback we ran the wishbone since the late 70's, which is kind of fun to watch if executed well.

Then when I got into high school, we had Scott Burrell, who was same grade as me (1st round pick in MLB and NBA - first player to do that I believe) and he was a QB, and it changed everything. He was 6' 5" - 6' 6" as a freshman, a cannon arm and could run. We deviated from the bone and ran some spread, and lost in the state finals, but those were the best teams my high school had and they were fun to watch

The town I live now  
pjcas18 : 9/16/2017 4:30 pm : link
in MA (vs CT where I went to high school), has a strong football tradition, and normally puts a very polished product on the field. Most years they have a couple players go D1. Nothing like TX, FL, CA or the football hot beds, but impressive for the area.

Howie Long is an alumni.
High Schools here in North Texas, with one exception, are going  
PatersonPlank : 9/16/2017 4:31 pm : link
5 wide with all the hand signals that go with it. They come to the line, look a the coaches, adjust the plays, and go. One school has a large population of Samoans. Many have gone on to be Offensive lineman at major colleges. This team just runs it down your throat.
See that's what I'm talking about. No, IMG ...  
Crispino : 9/16/2017 4:45 pm : link
wouldn't be favored over Rutgers. Bergen county high schools have beaten some of them top Florida teams. My N.J. high school lost by 10 points to IMG last year. As good as they are at the high school level, they're not beating Rutgers. It's like the stupid argument that Alabama would beat the Browns. No they wouldn't. It's a whole different level when you step up to the college game , and then again to the pros.
The Rutgers vs HS teams even an all star team would be  
gtt350 : 9/16/2017 4:51 pm : link
annialated by Rutgers. It's men against boys. Div 1 HS players who are now men. get real
I live up in North NJ. Lots of great...  
LarmerTJR : 9/16/2017 5:05 pm : link
High school teams to see. Lots of quality football. Not sure any if these score on a D-1 program. No, a north Texas HS is not beating Rutgers. Or Youngstown State. Even bad college programs are taking the two or three best players from each team in your league and playing them on the same team, but on a larger level. No HS has a chance again a D-1 program. Sorry.
RE: See that's what I'm talking about. No, IMG ...  
LarmerTJR : 9/16/2017 5:06 pm : link
Crispino

Which catholic school?

BC grad here.

In comment 13600417 Crispino said:
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wouldn't be favored over Rutgers. Bergen county high schools have beaten some of them top Florida teams. My N.J. high school lost by 10 points to IMG last year. As good as they are at the high school level, they're not beating Rutgers. It's like the stupid argument that Alabama would beat the Browns. No they wouldn't. It's a whole different level when you step up to the college game , and then again to the pros.
Bergen Catholic is playing Mater Dei the # 1 team in the  
gtt350 : 9/16/2017 5:13 pm : link
country today
in CA.  
gtt350 : 9/16/2017 5:15 pm : link
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RE: in CA.  
LarmerTJR : 9/16/2017 5:19 pm : link
You can watch the game on the Fox Sports App.

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RE: Rutgers goes down  
B in ALB : 9/16/2017 5:31 pm : link
In comment 13600397 floridagiantsfan said:
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There are several teams here in Florida that would be favored against Rutgers on a neutral field. IMG, St Thomas Aquinas come to mind immediately.


That's just a ridiculous statement. One of the most absurd I've ever heard on BBI. Well done.
Great football here  
rebel yell : 9/16/2017 6:01 pm : link
in Virginia Beach area. Bishop Sullivan, Ocean Lakes, Oscar Smith, Phoebus. A lot of big names have come out of here.
Yep, Hampton Roads is brimming with talent  
Greg from LI : 9/16/2017 6:08 pm : link
Virginia Beach, Norfolk, Hampton, Newport News play some serious football. Richmond football has some very good teams, but doesn't have near thekind of depth they have down 64.
RE: Great football here  
dpinzow : 9/16/2017 6:28 pm : link
In comment 13600462 rebel yell said:
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in Virginia Beach area. Bishop Sullivan, Ocean Lakes, Oscar Smith, Phoebus. A lot of big names have come out of here.


LT, Plax, Vick, Jerod Mayo, Kenny Easley, Dre Bly, Tyrod Taylor, DeAngelo Hall, etc...That is a ridiculous football hotbed
Upstate New York originally  
dpinzow : 9/16/2017 6:33 pm : link
Lots of option football and running
New Rochelle High School Football...  
M.S. : 9/16/2017 6:34 pm : link
...is very impressive and has been for nearly 20 years ever since Coach Lou DiRienzo took over the program. He runs several offenses including a single- and double-wing. They're ranked in the Top 10 in New York State and was at their game last night in White Plains (48-0). What I especially enjoy about their game is that it's public high school so all the players are from the neighborhood.
Recruiting in Middle School  
MarvelousMike : 9/16/2017 6:57 pm : link
I work as mental health professional with kids and their families. I see kids and their families that are in middle school approached by folks from other schools try to get those in government housing to move. They will help relocate.

Welcome to football in the South.
how many 4 or 5 star players on Rutgers  
floridagiantsfan : 9/16/2017 7:00 pm : link
IMG and St Thomas Aquinas have at least a dozen on each team. These guys will be playing and starting on Alabama, Clemson, LSU, and other top 10 college teams. Take off your red colored glasses. Rutgers wouldn't be competitive in the MAC and these HS teams have better athletes. Rutgers players are a little older IMG and Aquinas are a little better.
RE: RE: Bergen County New Jersey Catholics....  
Sonic Youth : 9/16/2017 7:01 pm : link
In comment 13600384 PatersonPlank said:
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play in what is widely regarded as the toughest league in the country.
And no, Texas high school football is not better than Rutgers. Not even close.



Yes it is
no, it isn't. Wtf is your beef with Rutgers? Give it a fucking rest
RE: Rutgers goes down  
Sonic Youth : 9/16/2017 7:01 pm : link
In comment 13600397 floridagiantsfan said:
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There are several teams here in Florida that would be favored against Rutgers on a neutral field. IMG, St Thomas Aquinas come to mind immediately.
this is the dumbest shit I've ever heard in my life.
RE: how many 4 or 5 star players on Rutgers  
Sonic Youth : 9/16/2017 7:02 pm : link
In comment 13600503 floridagiantsfan said:
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IMG and St Thomas Aquinas have at least a dozen on each team. These guys will be playing and starting on Alabama, Clemson, LSU, and other top 10 college teams. Take off your red colored glasses. Rutgers wouldn't be competitive in the MAC and these HS teams have better athletes. Rutgers players are a little older IMG and Aquinas are a little better.
no team of prefreshman would be favored over a d1 program, dumbass.

Hur dur let's take an empty headed jab at Rutgers!

Fuck you
Live and work at a High School in the Greater Houston Area  
CypressGFan : 9/16/2017 7:15 pm : link
2nd to none. Friday Night Lights in intense down here in Texas. Miles past what I remember growing up in Upstate NY.
Rutgers fans remain delusional  
floridagiantsfan : 9/16/2017 7:20 pm : link
Look Rutgers is an excellent school educationally. It's football team is not. While they play in Div 1 the quality of play is not of that caliber. They should not be in the Big ten and as I stated previously would not be competitive in the MAC.

As for those of you who are so brave using profanity behind the safety of a keyboard I hope that you don't have a Rutgers education or I would have to reevaluate my opinion of the schools educational quality.

By the way congrats on beating a historically black school today. I look forward to when you play OSU, Mich, Wisc or PSU.
My grandson was the starting 3 back in the wing T offense, they had  
SterlingArcher : 9/16/2017 7:35 pm : link
some good linemen who could block it and for the first 3 weeks of the season his team was putting up 50+ points a game and he was the leading rusher in the county! His high school is a small school and they played a lot of good teams from bigger schools and held their on, they won 8 games! He was also the middle linebacker on a small but fast defense and they did well. It seems that every so often a school will get a group of very good athletes, if you 8 or 9 outstanding players a team can do well.
RE: Rutgers fans remain delusional  
LarmerTJR : 9/16/2017 7:37 pm : link
I am sorry buddy, but IMG is not beating a D-1 school. And , if we want to go there, a school created solely to train and school atheletes and pretty atheletes only, from around the country, not a county, not a state, and not even a region, a country, and yet they still won't beat Rutgers. Shit, they don't go undeafeated in the HS ranks and they have a huge competitive advantage. An "institution" created by a sport agency. And they still couldn't win. It's not just Rutgers they couldn't beat, but I find the Rutgers hate odd, as they are far from the worst D-1 program in the country. The skill and completion level difference must be beyond your comprehension.

In comment 13600521 floridagiantsfan said:
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Look Rutgers is an excellent school educationally. It's football team is not. While they play in Div 1 the quality of play is not of that caliber. They should not be in the Big ten and as I stated previously would not be competitive in the MAC.

As for those of you who are so brave using profanity behind the safety of a keyboard I hope that you don't have a Rutgers education or I would have to reevaluate my opinion of the schools educational quality.

By the way congrats on beating a historically black school today. I look forward to when you play OSU, Mich, Wisc or PSU.
LarmerTJR  
bigbluehoya : 9/16/2017 7:41 pm : link
I went to BC as well, class of '01. What year did you graduate?
RE: LarmerTJR  
LarmerTJR : 9/16/2017 7:46 pm : link
1997 grad here.

In comment 13600529 bigbluehoya said:
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I went to BC as well, class of '01. What year did you graduate?
Small world  
bigbluehoya : 9/16/2017 7:51 pm : link
Deus Vult.

Certainly adds a funny twist to the little spate we had on a Yankees thread a few weeks back. Haha. Cheers.
RE: how many 4 or 5 star players on Rutgers  
B in ALB : 9/16/2017 7:51 pm : link
In comment 13600503 floridagiantsfan said:
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IMG and St Thomas Aquinas have at least a dozen on each team. These guys will be playing and starting on Alabama, Clemson, LSU, and other top 10 college teams. Take off your red colored glasses. Rutgers wouldn't be competitive in the MAC and these HS teams have better athletes. Rutgers players are a little older IMG and Aquinas are a little better.


Listen friend, I played high level HS ball and D1 football for a big program. There is no way in hell IMG, StA or MD or a Fucking all star team is beating a big D1 program from a Power 5 conference.

They could play 10 vs 11 and it wouldn't be close.

I'd explain it to you with detail, but the claim you're making is so beyond absurd that it's not even worth another 30 seconds.

Holy shit, the stupid is strong on BBI these days.
RE: Small world  
LarmerTJR : 9/16/2017 7:57 pm : link
It does. Still sorry about that. What town did you grow up?


In comment 13600540 bigbluehoya said:
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Deus Vult.

Certainly adds a funny twist to the little spate we had on a Yankees thread a few weeks back. Haha. Cheers.
RE: RE: Small world  
bigbluehoya : 9/16/2017 8:01 pm : link
In comment 13600542 LarmerTJR said:
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It does. Still sorry about that. What town did you grow up?


In comment 13600540 bigbluehoya said:


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Deus Vult.

Certainly adds a funny twist to the little spate we had on a Yankees thread a few weeks back. Haha. Cheers.



Water way under the bridge, my friend.

I grew up in Franklin Lakes. I now live in Wayne.

You?
RE: RE: RE: Small world  
LarmerTJR : 9/16/2017 8:10 pm : link
Ha. Grew up in Paramus, live in Clifton now.

In comment 13600545 bigbluehoya said:
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It does. Still sorry about that. What town did you grow up?


In comment 13600540 bigbluehoya said:


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Deus Vult.

Certainly adds a funny twist to the little spate we had on a Yankees thread a few weeks back. Haha. Cheers.





Water way under the bridge, my friend.

I grew up in Franklin Lakes. I now live in Wayne.

You?
I coach  
BIG FRED 1973 : 9/16/2017 8:46 pm : link
High School football here in queens .We hardly hit in practice and it showed today we are light on numbers so we cant hit as much ..The game has changed so much with spread ..Really miss the I formation
I'm in texas  
KerrysFlask : 9/16/2017 8:55 pm : link
So it's always been a huge deal. Lots of quality teams...
Michigan  
Cap'n Bluebeard : 9/16/2017 9:16 pm : link
I live in Michigan and work at Detroit Catholic Central High School. We're kind of a football dynasty, having won 10 state championships since the 70s, but haven't won states since 2010 despite being in the finals 5 of the last 6 years. Schools from this area regularly send kids to bigtime D1 programs. Midwest high school football may not be considered in the same tier as Florida, California, or Texas, but it's not that far behind either. Great games and definitely a lot of talent up here.
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