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B in ALB : 9/16/2017 8:42 pm
So what's the consensus here tonight folks? Are you paying for the big Canelo/GGG fight? Or are you sticking with the free UFC event on FS1?

Not to mention college football going on right now.

But late-night - what are you watching BBI?

Is the boxing match worth the money?
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Boxing is so rigged  
Dave in PA : 9/17/2017 12:03 am : link
GGG kicked his ass from round 4 on and Alvarez was dead on his feet in round 12. What a joke
I pretty much scored it the same way the HBO judge did  
Jints in Carolina : 9/17/2017 12:04 am : link
GGG was ahead for me 8-2 going into the final 2 rounds. Canelo needed a KO to win.
Adalaide Byrd scores it 118-110 for Canelo  
j_rud : 9/17/2017 12:05 am : link
What fight was she watching?!?!? What a fucking disgrace
I gave 1-2  
BlackLight : 9/17/2017 12:06 am : link
to Alvarez, 3-4 to GGG, 5 to Alvarez, 6-9 to GGG, 10 was even, then they split the last 2.
What a load of horseshit  
Motley Two : 9/17/2017 12:06 am : link
Hats of to Canelo & GGG, anybody who just watched that would love to watch them do 12 more, to force a draw with a bullshit 118 for Canelo is absolute Shit. GGG doesn't deserve that in his record.
reposting  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 9/17/2017 12:08 am : link
Boxing is bullshit. That is all. I'm done with it.

Any judge who scored that fight 118-110 for either guy should never judge anything again except De La Hoya's women's underwear line.
Oddly enough  
BlackLight : 9/17/2017 12:08 am : link
118-110 for Alvarez argues against the scoring being rigged. If you go in intending to score the fight for Alvarez no matter what, you don't score it 10 rounds to 2 when you know it's closer than that.
Either Canelo is a dick  
bradshaw44 : 9/17/2017 12:09 am : link
Or his translator, who said all of two words after each Kellerman question, was feeding Canello lies. I was surprised by him insulting his supposed friend.
I gave it 7-5 to GGG  
dpinzow : 9/17/2017 12:09 am : link
Canelo won 2-3 and 10-12. GGG won the rest. If you had Canelo winning 1 also then that is a draw
RE: Oddly enough  
Motley Two : 9/17/2017 12:14 am : link
In comment 13600663 BlackLight said:
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118-110 for Alvarez argues against the scoring being rigged. If you go in intending to score the fight for Alvarez no matter what, you don't score it 10 rounds to 2 when you know it's closer than that.


While I see the logic, even reaching and trying to give Canelo as many rounds as possible, GGG still had him 7 to 5. 118 is insane. I don't think anybody would have honesty had GGG at a 118, but Canelo? Madness!

Ironic that the British feed had Amir Khan on pre-fight  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 9/17/2017 12:17 am : link
and Khan said GGG would have to KO Alvarez because if it was anywhere close, GGG would not get the decision in Vegas.
I had 7 to 5 Alvarez.  
Cam in MO : 9/17/2017 12:18 am : link
GGG came forward but wasn't landing shit aside from his jab. Canelo was slipping almost everything and landing hard counters. All you need to do is look at their faces to tell who landed more hard shots.

This is a fight that's hard to score, though. I can see rounds going to GGG based purely on him being the aggressor and out jabbing Canelo.

Either way it was an awesome fight. GGG has a hell of a chin- walked through some hellacious shots- of course we're not saying that about Alvarez because he didn't get hit with any huge shots- certainly not even close to as many as GGG did.

115-113 GGG on my card  
PetesHereNow : 9/17/2017 12:18 am : link
Adelaide Byrd is crazy. 118-110 Canelo? Was she watching a tape of Canelo vs JC jr?
RE: I had 7 to 5 Alvarez.  
PetesHereNow : 9/17/2017 12:22 am : link
In comment 13600672 Cam in MO said:
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GGG came forward but wasn't landing shit aside from his jab. Canelo was slipping almost everything and landing hard counters. All you need to do is look at their faces to tell who landed more hard shots.

This is a fight that's hard to score, though. I can see rounds going to GGG based purely on him being the aggressor and out jabbing Canelo.

Either way it was an awesome fight. GGG has a hell of a chin- walked through some hellacious shots- of course we're not saying that about Alvarez because he didn't get hit with any huge shots- certainly not even close to as many as GGG did.


Strongly disagree GGG didn't land hard shots. He's the naturally bigger man and he hurt Canelo pretty regularly through the middle rounds. GGG sits down on his shots and beats him in rematch.
Alvarez  
Walt in MD : 9/17/2017 12:26 am : link
Backed up all night and never hurt GGG. This was a bad one.
GGG  
Giants : 9/17/2017 12:26 am : link
won that fight
GGG kept coming after Canelo when he did get hit  
Jints in Carolina : 9/17/2017 12:26 am : link
Never affected him IMO.
RE: I had 7 to 5 Alvarez.  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 9/17/2017 12:28 am : link
In comment 13600672 Cam in MO said:
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GGG came forward but wasn't landing shit aside from his jab. Canelo was slipping almost everything and landing hard counters. All you need to do is look at their faces to tell who landed more hard shots.

This is a fight that's hard to score, though. I can see rounds going to GGG based purely on him being the aggressor and out jabbing Canelo.

Either way it was an awesome fight. GGG has a hell of a chin- walked through some hellacious shots- of course we're not saying that about Alvarez because he didn't get hit with any huge shots- certainly not even close to as many as GGG did.


So you missed the one where GGG hit him in the ear and Canelo went sideways and then shook his head to say i'm not hurt before cowering?
RE: Ironic that the British feed had Amir Khan on pre-fight  
Motley Two : 9/17/2017 12:29 am : link
In comment 13600670 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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and Khan said GGG would have to KO Alvarez because if it was anywhere close, GGG would not get the decision in Vegas.


Heard the same thing a few times this week from pundits. Canelo is gonna have his day and he's positioned nicely for the next half decade, but this shit is shady.
Teddy Atlas  
Walt in MD : 9/17/2017 12:32 am : link
Going nuts on ESPN about corruption.
Ridiculous. One guy has it 10 rounds to 2 for ...  
Crispino : 9/17/2017 12:36 am : link
Canelo, another with GGG winning it fairly close, and remarkably, one draw card. What a crock of shit. Crooked sport ruins a good fight with a phony result.
Adelaide Byrd's scorecard is on Twitter  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 9/17/2017 12:37 am : link
She gave Canelo the first 3 rounds, but then also from round EIGHT on was all Canelo, which again is insane.
RE: Adelaide Byrd's scorecard is on Twitter  
PetesHereNow : 9/17/2017 12:42 am : link
In comment 13600695 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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She gave Canelo the first 3 rounds, but then also from round EIGHT on was all Canelo, which again is insane.


Put her on ESPN. Let her commentate how she scored punch by punch of 8-12. If those are all Canelo rounds, I am Eli Manning.
One circumstantial piece of evidence for the scoring being rigged  
BlackLight : 9/17/2017 12:44 am : link
is the idea that McGregor/Mayweather 3 weeks ago took away a chunk of the probable audience for this fight, so they needed to make a case for a rematch before the first fight even began.
RE: One circumstantial piece of evidence for the scoring being rigged  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 9/17/2017 12:48 am : link
In comment 13600701 BlackLight said:
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is the idea that McGregor/Mayweather 3 weeks ago took away a chunk of the probable audience for this fight, so they needed to make a case for a rematch before the first fight even began.


The argument against it being rigged is that even with a decision for GGG, there still would've been a rematch. It was a close fight. Now you've got Teddy Atlas saying corruption in boxing and pointing the finger at De La Hoya.
Also Canelo is hugely popular within the Mexican American population  
PetesHereNow : 9/17/2017 12:50 am : link
I can sell Canelo fighting a broomstick in Vegas for 200 bucks a seat. Unless I miss my guess, May 5, 2018 for the rematch.
RE: RE: One circumstantial piece of evidence for the scoring being rigged  
BlackLight : 9/17/2017 12:53 am : link
In comment 13600706 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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In comment 13600701 BlackLight said:


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is the idea that McGregor/Mayweather 3 weeks ago took away a chunk of the probable audience for this fight, so they needed to make a case for a rematch before the first fight even began.



The argument against it being rigged is that even with a decision for GGG, there still would've been a rematch. It was a close fight. Now you've got Teddy Atlas saying corruption in boxing and pointing the finger at De La Hoya.


Oh certainly - if there's such a thing in boxing as a credible, properly executed fix, this wasn't it.

But I still think the 118-110 scorecard was so bad, it better makes the case for crummy judging rather than corrupt judging.
Golovkin was very gracious  
j_rud : 9/17/2017 12:55 am : link
Canelo came off as defensive and maybe even a little childish. And now Canelo releases a statement: "I was superior inside the ring, I won at least 7 or 8 rounds". I guess he's in a tough situation, he's gonna defend himself. Only thing tougher than being booed like that would be getting robbed and your unblemished record taken from you.
RE: RE: I had 7 to 5 Alvarez.  
SHO'NUFF : 9/17/2017 12:56 am : link
In comment 13600683 Bobby Humphrey's Earpad said:
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In comment 13600672 Cam in MO said:


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GGG came forward but wasn't landing shit aside from his jab. Canelo was slipping almost everything and landing hard counters. All you need to do is look at their faces to tell who landed more hard shots.

This is a fight that's hard to score, though. I can see rounds going to GGG based purely on him being the aggressor and out jabbing Canelo.

Either way it was an awesome fight. GGG has a hell of a chin- walked through some hellacious shots- of course we're not saying that about Alvarez because he didn't get hit with any huge shots- certainly not even close to as many as GGG did.




So you missed the one where GGG hit him in the ear and Canelo went sideways and then shook his head to say i'm not hurt before cowering?


Round 5, 1:00
I thought harold Letterman scored the fight perfect  
gtt350 : 9/17/2017 12:57 am : link
8-4 GGG
What sucks is both fighters had brilliant moments  
Motley Two : 9/17/2017 12:57 am : link
showed incredible toughness, heart and fought their way through extremely dangerous situations. They both earned a rematch on the merits of their fighting.
That scorecard might as well be Janet's titty. Shame it'll end up being what's remembered.
Teddy Atlas is beside himself lol  
j_rud : 9/17/2017 1:01 am : link
Pacing around, shouting, even jumping up and down on one occasion.

The whole thing is a shame bc that was an incredible fight, both men put on a show. And in memory it'll play second fiddle to wondering what in the *fuck* Adelaide Byrd was watching
RE: Teddy Atlas is beside himself lol  
PetesHereNow : 9/17/2017 1:22 am : link
In comment 13600715 j_rud said:
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Pacing around, shouting, even jumping up and down on one occasion.

The whole thing is a shame bc that was an incredible fight, both men put on a show. And in memory it'll play second fiddle to wondering what in the *fuck* Adelaide Byrd was watching


Atlas is a nutcase but he loves the sport. He's as close to a real boxing fan on tv as we can find.
RE: RE: Teddy Atlas is beside himself lol  
j_rud : 9/17/2017 1:44 am : link
In comment 13600718 PetesHereNow said:
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In comment 13600715 j_rud said:


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Pacing around, shouting, even jumping up and down on one occasion.

The whole thing is a shame bc that was an incredible fight, both men put on a show. And in memory it'll play second fiddle to wondering what in the *fuck* Adelaide Byrd was watching



Atlas is a nutcase but he loves the sport. He's as close to a real boxing fan on tv as we can find.


Yeah, I knew he'd be going crazy. I appreciate his candor, especially in light of Kellerman all but ignoring the elephant in the room. And I like Kellerman.
I was ok with a draw  
Keyser : 9/17/2017 3:10 am : link
I was kinda rooting for GGG but I honestly didn't know how the fight would be scored. While I wasn't trackig every riubd, I felt overall the fight was pretty even and a lot of rounds were tought to score. I was ok with the draw although the 118-110 score for canelo is nuts.
How much  
XBRONX : 9/17/2017 7:53 am : link
did Byrd get paid by Golden Boy?
It isn't like..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/17/2017 8:12 am : link
this is Byrd's first disgrace.

She has botched a couple other high-profile fights. When your record is that poor and you keep getting gigs as a judge, you know boxing still has massive problems.
If you gave canelo every close round  
hitdog42 : 9/17/2017 8:19 am : link
He loses 115-113
So even the most favorable judge last night still tried every way possible to give canelo rounds.

The proof boxing  
XBRONX : 9/17/2017 8:38 am : link
is fixed is that judges are not called back to sit and rewatch the fight to justify their scoring.
LMAO  
montanagiant : 9/17/2017 9:13 am : link
That crooked bitch only gave GGG the 4th and the 7th round
RE: It isn't like..  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 9/17/2017 10:00 am : link
In comment 13600739 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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this is Byrd's first disgrace.

She has botched a couple other high-profile fights. When your record is that poor and you keep getting gigs as a judge, you know boxing still has massive problems.


Her incompetence extends to MMA. A college classmate is an MMA writer and he was like "Oh, I know Byrd."

The silver lining for GGG is he gets another big payday before retiring. But sucks for him that Canelo ducked him for a couple years until he was past his prime and then still got a favorable decision.

GGG was like the fucking terminator nothing stopped him  
gtt350 : 9/17/2017 10:26 am : link
he walked through everything Canelo threw. backed him up the whole fight, had him against the ropes every round cutting off the ring. It was masterful.
8-4 GGG my score
I am a huge Canelo  
TommyWiseau : 9/17/2017 11:04 am : link
Fan but come on.. GGG won the fight fair and square.
Canelo clearly won...  
2ndroundKO : 9/17/2017 12:32 pm : link
at least two of the first three rounds and rounds 10-12. Do the math. He wins any of the close rounds in between and it's a draw or a win for him. Close fight and a good one.

I hate the biased commentary from HBO that skews what is taking place in the ring--and affecrs viewers, whether they believe it or not. The 118-110 card was egrigious but this was a fight that could have gone either way.
But when...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/17/2017 12:47 pm : link
there are only 3 judges and one of them is so far off the mark - it skews the result
Winning the first minute of 10  
hitdog42 : 9/17/2017 12:49 pm : link
And getting smoked the lst 2 of it... doesn't equate to winning the round.
Canelo won 11? Really? I'll give him 12

And he clearly won the first 3? Because max said so or he really did? Ggg won the first round- canelo the 2nd

Biased announcing lol?  
j_rud : 9/17/2017 1:15 pm : link
You mean like Kellerman saying he didn't agree that Golovkin landed more punches in the first rd despite looking at the numbers? Or Roy Jones stating that Canelo was on the ropes because that's where he wanted to be? They weren't biased, they said numerous positive things about each fighter.

I can almost see arguing for a draw, but I don't see how you argue for an Alvarez decision. He was pushed around the ring from the 3rd round on. He had some late flurries in 10-12 but he was gassed a minute into each round and did very little thereafter.
RE: Winning the first minute of 10  
2ndroundKO : 9/17/2017 1:41 pm : link
In comment 13600891 hitdog42 said:
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And getting smoked the lst 2 of it... doesn't equate to winning the round.
Canelo won 11? Really? I'll give him 12

And he clearly won the first 3? Because max said so or he really did? Ggg won the first round- canelo the 2nd

I said two of the first three. And yeah, I gave Canelo 10-12. There were a lot of close rounds and I'm sorry but if Canelo was getting "smoked," he wouldn't have been standing. He landed more power punches than GGG so how was he getting smoked? You judge a fight on clean punching, defense, ring generalship and effective aggression. Not hyperbole. Canelo landed more power punches, exhibited better defense. A draw or win for him isn't something crazy.
RE: Canelo clearly won...  
dpinzow : 9/17/2017 2:20 pm : link
In comment 13600877 2ndroundKO said:
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at least two of the first three rounds and rounds 10-12. Do the math. He wins any of the close rounds in between and it's a draw or a win for him. Close fight and a good one.

I hate the biased commentary from HBO that skews what is taking place in the ring--and affecrs viewers, whether they believe it or not. The 118-110 card was egrigious but this was a fight that could have gone either way.


I had it scored the same but GGG easily won Rounds 4-9 and controlled Rd 1 with the jab. 7-5 for GGG, possibly 8-4 if you give GGG Rd 10, which I had as a close Canelo round
Judge Adalaide Byrd  
Motley Two : 9/18/2017 9:10 am : link
Has been stood down by the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

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According to Jack de Menezes of The Independent, executive director of the NASC Bob Bennett said Byrd needed a "small break," adding:

"I'm not going to put her right back in. She'll still be in the business, but she needs to catch her breath.

"Like in any profession, you have a bad night. Unfortunately, she didn't do well. I can tell you she conducts training for us, takes judges under her wing, but her score was too wide."

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