ESPN: Is Giants QB Eli Manning running on fumes?

In comment 13602091 mdc1 said:

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and needs to step up as that leader instead of that "keep quiet and collect my money dude", he is paid handsomely for that. If he needs better protection, better OC, better HC he needs to do something about it. Although you could argue he is a player, he is the boss of most of those around him including our head coach. If this season's offense looks like last we should get rid of our head coach Macadoo as he is not a leader either as we found out in the playoffs.

for as long as he's been a Giant and even acknowledging his big contract (at the time he signed it), Eli has never ever seemed to me to be a "I'm just here to get paid" kind of guy.

I sick of the Eli bashing, no quaterback can operate efficently behind the offensive line and running game he had last Sunday night.

Who would you like to put in the next game ? Geno ?

In comment 13602100 Bill L said:

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In comment 13602091 mdc1 said: Quote: and needs to step up as that leader instead of that "keep quiet and collect my money dude", he is paid handsomely for that. If he needs better protection, better OC, better HC he needs to do something about it. Although you could argue he is a player, he is the boss of most of those around him including our head coach. If this season's offense looks like last we should get rid of our head coach Macadoo as he is not a leader either as we found out in the playoffs. for as long as he's been a Giant and even acknowledging his big contract (at the time he signed it), Eli has never ever seemed to me to be a "I'm just here to get paid" kind of guy.

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Manning doesn’t appear to fall into that category. He’s all-in on football and continues to be the first in the building and last to leave every day. He has been healthy, having never missed a start because of injury.

1. It really is hard to attribute blame to Eli when the OL and running game are so poor. The Giants basically do 3 step drops exclusively.

2. I don't think Manning was all that good in 2016. The Giants D was awful then, so he was like Blaine Bortles-getting yards and stats in garbage time.

when the Chiefs demolished the Patriots early in the season because the Chiefs D-LIne overwhelmed the Patriots O-line, everyone said that Tom was on the decline and that age had caught up to him, etc.

And then, Scarnecchia came back to coach the line, Belichick prepared his team better than any other team in the league, and suddenly Tom had time to throw. Suddenly, they got a running game going. And then wouldn't you know it? No one was questioning whether Tom was "cooked" or "running on fumes."

But hey, any article for a click.

Nobody wanted to acknowledge it, but even last year you could tell something was "off". He can't "drive" throws like he used to.

In comment 13602290 Flanker7 said:

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Nobody wanted to acknowledge it, but even last year you could tell something was "off". He can't "drive" throws like he used to.

Yeah, well it's hard to drive throws when you can't step into them for fear of getting your leg snapped at the knees, as your own offensive teammate gets bulldozed back into you.

Giant hating BS. Take with a grain of salt. They love to show up Eli and the Giants.

Isn't helping

In comment 13602249 PaulBlakeTSU said:

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when the Chiefs demolished the Patriots early in the season because the Chiefs D-LIne overwhelmed the Patriots O-line, everyone said that Tom was on the decline and that age had caught up to him, etc. And then, Scarnecchia came back to coach the line, Belichick prepared his team better than any other team in the league, and suddenly Tom had time to throw. Suddenly, they got a running game going. And then wouldn't you know it? No one was questioning whether Tom was "cooked" or "running on fumes." But hey, any article for a click.

If Mouse McNally can be dragged out of retirement, I'm all for it.

TC did not have the D McAdoo was given last year. Giants rode the back of the D to 11 wins last year. So far not impressed with McAdoo's offense which he brought to NY. He has done a poor job matching the offense to Eli. He will hear it from the fans tonight if the Giant's offense comes out and plays like they did against the Cowboys. He owns it !

good for 5th in the NFL, stat they just showed.

Washed up.

In comment 13602480 OC2.0 said:

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Isn't helping

What plays would you like to see?

In comment 13601681 BrettNYG10 said:

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In comment 13601679 GMAN4LIFE said: Quote: In comment 13601674 BigBlueWhale said: Quote: he had a big game? real good question when was the last time he threw 4 tds in a game? Last year against Philly on 11/6.

Holy shit if the WRs caught the balls that hit them in the hands vs GB in the playoffs last year he would have had a huge game

happen with this line.

The Oline isn't getting better anytime soon (which is on Reese) so they need to look to tmrw instead of yesterday.