I've watched pretty much every game the Giants have played for the last decade, save maybe 2-3. If they put out another stinker like the last one (and pretty much every game from the season prior), I'm going to start skipping them. At this point, the games are less fun to watch than pretty much anything else I could do on a Sunday.
RE: The Giants are favored by 3, were favored by 5....
I try to remember that the 2007 that is being honored tonight were 0-2, losing their home opener to GB and allowing 80 points in the first 2 games.
Things can change quickly in the NFL. If the Giants lose tonight their season is not over. If the Giants win tonight they are not guaranteed anything even though they will be tied for 1st place in the NFC East.
I just hope the play calling will give this offense a chance. A running game will cure many things.
Injuries creeping in + Monday night football + Important home game honoring past greatness = Not usually good for NYG football.
I just hope this defense comes to play, because even if the O improves, it's probably going to be gradual week to week until Beckham is fully healthy and the O-line is serviceable.
If nothing else, to quiet the doubters. Would like to see Eli go out and have a nice game. Offense to be productive, even if OBJ is not 100%, his presence should help. Defense needs to step up and show that they are truly a Top 5 unit that their talent says they should be.
Settle down. Offense will be clearly be more productive than last week
I don't care how ugly. 2 fucking 0. I don't care. Just win. Win and get this season going in the right direction. The offense doesn't need to be championship quality right now. The team doesn't need to be championship quality right now but the team needs to find ways to win. I can forgive week 1 at Dallas. Tough spot. Tough game. Things got ugly. It happens to the best of em.
Win the damn game tonight by any means possible. I'd like to think this D has a dominant effort in them but they need to prove it.
...John Jerry get fooled once again and double team a guy with Bobby Hart while a LB loops inside into the space vacated by Jerry?
And will the Ereck Flowers ship tilt too far to port allowing Ziggy Ansah to rip underneath him for a direct shot on Eli?
And will Weston Richburg get blown backwards into Eli's face?
A "yes" to two of these and we won't win.
A "yes" to three of these and it's the Lions in a route.
This is just flat out false and annoying. The Giants can win this game even if the OL doesn't play very well. They won plenty of games last year when the offense didn't play well. They were in the game last week despite the O playing terribly.
You guys obsess over this shit every day. Every fricking post...it's so tiring. We get it...the OL bothers you. Find something new to say just once.
McAdoo himself has gone out of his way to blame the ENTIRE offense. I am not saying the OL is sound and secure unit but it's not the source of all the problems on offense no matter how many times you spout the same crap over and over again.
The RBs on this team need to make plays when they are there to be made. The QB, yes, THE QB, needs to hit a fucking WR in stride when the play is there to be made, especially against a quality team. You only get so many chances early in a game. Miss those chances and things get ugly.
Why would McAdoo single out other players on this offense? He's not saying this shit for his health or to instill confidence in the OL. He's blasting the RBs because they don't make plays! Never! There have been creases --there have been holes. The RB gets 3-4-5 yards on a play that could have gotten 15-20.
Make a fucking play tonight when it's there. Just once. ONE! They haven't in years. Fact.
watch some of these RBs run around like they are lit on fire. Breaking not one, not two but three tackles on ONE run. Watch Lynch run. Then tell me our RBs aren't the problem. Perkins runs like he's playing football in the backyard with his family. Run like your life depends on it! Like your job is going to be stolen from the backup!
Break a fucking tackle! ONCE!!!
My ass it's not the RBs. They are the most uninspiring group of RBs this team has had since 1980. The best RB is Vereen and he can't take more than 10 shots a game or his body will likely explode into 100 pieces.
Remember when the Giants running game sucked and then they traded for Rob Carpenter? Was the OL shitty then too?
Prove me wrong tonight. I want to see a broken tackle or two.
RE: Got to love the people complaining aboit winning ugly
I am just praying he shuts me up and puts a quality product on the field. I have a bad feeling the DET front 4 will look like the 85 Bears and we'll have to completely shut down Stafford & Co. which is unfair.
Good post to a fellow Giants fan. The difference in quality from the DEN to ours is stark across the board. Their backs run tougher, their line blocks harder, their WRs make tough catches and YAC and their QB is accurate and moves the chains. They have a very good WCO with McCoy.
We need a complete talent overhaul on O, similar to the D. Luckily we have Odell and Engram as starting points.
I've lost all faith in Ben McAdoo.
BigBlueWhale : 10:38 am : link : reply
I am just praying he shuts me up and puts a quality product on the field. I have a bad feeling the DET front 4 will look like the 85 Bears and we'll have to completely shut down Stafford & Co. which is unfair.
You've lost faith in a guy who went 11-5 because we lost on the road in the opener?
Do you people ever employ any fucking logic in life?
I think our defense is too good for a team like Detroit to ever blow us out, but any other outcome is on the table. Win close, win big, lose close.... if I was a betting man I really wouldn't touch this one. Give us a slight edge because we are home and have the best unit on the field for either team (Giants defense), but I have little feel for this one. It's a big one though because next week will be a tough one to get, especially on a short week.
should be ball control. The Giants NEED to open up the passing game by running the ball!!!!!! Commit to the run !!! Do what ever it takes 3 TE's Fullback just pound the rock and earn some respect!!! They have a championship D just control the game keep the Lions off the field.
I fully expect a better showing tonight. 1-1 hopefully.
1.30AM kick off, can deal with TNF and SNF as its either friday the next day or it just extends the weekend, but MNF is brutal for an English fan. Still, tuesday won't be a struggle if we win
Good post. When you have an immobile quarterback behind a poor offensive line coupled in with that we do not have an NFL caliber starting running back is a recipe for disaster. Running back should be a pretty easy position to fill. Reese seemingly has picked the wrong guys lately.
could handle a normal tackle around the legs without worrying about this injury occurring again.
To be honest, I don't give a shit if he plays or not because that doesn't change the bottom line with this offense. They need to play a helluva lot better, even if he's not out there. The coach, the QB, and the OL all share the responsibility of last week's (and beyond) disaster. They all need to step up as professionals and as men. If someone is getting knocked on his ass again, he needs to get benched immediately.
A win is a win and that's obviously the most important thing, but 17-7 isn't going to cut it tonight. I'm not saying they need a blowout, but they need the kind of offensive performance they haven't produced in a long time. I expect them to win because they were much better at home than on the road last year, but it needs to be of a quality that relieves some well-deserved pressure on the parties I listed above.
...respond to adversity, so they may have a chance. The media has been brutal this week regarding the offens. If they have an ounce of pride at all, they should at least be competitive.
the OL doesn't play better we will lose. I expect Detroit to start in some type of cover 2 shell to see if they can get pressure with just four or five. Everybody should. Their DL isn't that good, but the same was true of Dallas. To counteract any pressure we may see more planned bootlegs and rollouts from Eli.
There should be some opportunities in the middle of the field. Worried about the Lions DL. Ansah, Ngata, and Robinson are no joke. Better than the Dallas front 4.
There have been a handful of games where I went in with
...John Jerry get fooled once again and double team a guy with Bobby Hart while a LB loops inside into the space vacated by Jerry?
And will the Ereck Flowers ship tilt too far to port allowing Ziggy Ansah to rip underneath him for a direct shot on Eli?
And will Weston Richburg get blown backwards into Eli's face?
A "yes" to two of these and we won't win.
A "yes" to three of these and it's the Lions in a route.
This is just flat out false and annoying. The Giants can win this game even if the OL doesn't play very well. They won plenty of games last year when the offense didn't play well. They were in the game last week despite the O playing terribly.
You guys obsess over this shit every day. Every fricking post...it's so tiring. We get it...the OL bothers you. Find something new to say just once.
Your words: "They were in the game last week despite the O playing terribly."
I don't think you'll find much agreement here. Giants were steam-rolled by half time, and the 19-0 score felt more like a 56-0 beat down.
And one more thing... even great running backs don't do so well behind lousy O-lines. And another problem is that the Head Coach doesn't call for many run plays, or Eli is audibling out of them. Looks like zero commitment to the run game by this team.
You'd think it should be the other way, especially with an O-line that gets turned inside out on so many passing plays.
...John Jerry get fooled once again and double team a guy with Bobby Hart while a LB loops inside into the space vacated by Jerry?
And will the Ereck Flowers ship tilt too far to port allowing Ziggy Ansah to rip underneath him for a direct shot on Eli?
And will Weston Richburg get blown backwards into Eli's face?
A "yes" to two of these and we won't win.
A "yes" to three of these and it's the Lions in a route.
Giants offense looks better, Eli has some time and running game actually gives some balance
Giants D holds Detroit's big plays, but the game goes to the wire
Giants win 24-17, all NFC East teams are 1-1, BBI gets too optimistic about remainder of season
I think the energy level begins with Eli!!!
Things can change quickly in the NFL. If the Giants lose tonight their season is not over. If the Giants win tonight they are not guaranteed anything even though they will be tied for 1st place in the NFC East.
I just hope the play calling will give this offense a chance. A running game will cure many things.
Injuries creeping in + Monday night football + Important home game honoring past greatness = Not usually good for NYG football.
I just hope this defense comes to play, because even if the O improves, it's probably going to be gradual week to week until Beckham is fully healthy and the O-line is serviceable.
...John Jerry get fooled once again and double team a guy with Bobby Hart while a LB loops inside into the space vacated by Jerry?
And will the Ereck Flowers ship tilt too far to port allowing Ziggy Ansah to rip underneath him for a direct shot on Eli?
And will Weston Richburg get blown backwards into Eli's face?
A "yes" to two of these and we won't win.
A "yes" to three of these and it's the Lions in a route.
Haha. Then we'll get the pleasure of McAdoo's boilerplate "everyone is to blame" presser.
I think the defense shows up in a big way, & the offense will again be lackluster. OBJ plays, and gets in the endzone.
GIANTS 17
LIONS 7
Jackrabbit would be a tremendous loss. Total game changer.
Win the damn game tonight by any means possible. I'd like to think this D has a dominant effort in them but they need to prove it.
Win the fucking game.
...John Jerry get fooled once again and double team a guy with Bobby Hart while a LB loops inside into the space vacated by Jerry?
And will the Ereck Flowers ship tilt too far to port allowing Ziggy Ansah to rip underneath him for a direct shot on Eli?
And will Weston Richburg get blown backwards into Eli's face?
A "yes" to two of these and we won't win.
A "yes" to three of these and it's the Lions in a route.
This is just flat out false and annoying. The Giants can win this game even if the OL doesn't play very well. They won plenty of games last year when the offense didn't play well. They were in the game last week despite the O playing terribly.
You guys obsess over this shit every day. Every fricking post...it's so tiring. We get it...the OL bothers you. Find something new to say just once.
The RBs on this team need to make plays when they are there to be made. The QB, yes, THE QB, needs to hit a fucking WR in stride when the play is there to be made, especially against a quality team. You only get so many chances early in a game. Miss those chances and things get ugly.
Why would McAdoo single out other players on this offense? He's not saying this shit for his health or to instill confidence in the OL. He's blasting the RBs because they don't make plays! Never! There have been creases --there have been holes. The RB gets 3-4-5 yards on a play that could have gotten 15-20.
Make a fucking play tonight when it's there. Just once. ONE! They haven't in years. Fact.
Lions win 17-13
people saying if they play ugly they are going to stop watching, dear lord
Break a fucking tackle! ONCE!!!
My ass it's not the RBs. They are the most uninspiring group of RBs this team has had since 1980. The best RB is Vereen and he can't take more than 10 shots a game or his body will likely explode into 100 pieces.
Remember when the Giants running game sucked and then they traded for Rob Carpenter? Was the OL shitty then too?
Prove me wrong tonight. I want to see a broken tackle or two.
people saying if they play ugly they are going to stop watching, dear lord
People have short memories when it comes to sports.
I think the offense needs to show something so that they can build some confidence. A win by the defense and this team will be just treading water.
I am struck by how well the offense played against the Jets when the OC was calling the plays. I think that Reese may need to intercede on that.
We need a complete talent overhaul on O, similar to the D. Luckily we have Odell and Engram as starting points.
BigBlueWhale : 10:38 am : link : reply
I am just praying he shuts me up and puts a quality product on the field. I have a bad feeling the DET front 4 will look like the 85 Bears and we'll have to completely shut down Stafford & Co. which is unfair.
You've lost faith in a guy who went 11-5 because we lost on the road in the opener?
Do you people ever employ any fucking logic in life?
Giants win 17-10
GO BIG BLUE!!!!
To be honest, I don't give a shit if he plays or not because that doesn't change the bottom line with this offense. They need to play a helluva lot better, even if he's not out there. The coach, the QB, and the OL all share the responsibility of last week's (and beyond) disaster. They all need to step up as professionals and as men. If someone is getting knocked on his ass again, he needs to get benched immediately.
A win is a win and that's obviously the most important thing, but 17-7 isn't going to cut it tonight. I'm not saying they need a blowout, but they need the kind of offensive performance they haven't produced in a long time. I expect them to win because they were much better at home than on the road last year, but it needs to be of a quality that relieves some well-deserved pressure on the parties I listed above.
no running game is going to hinder anything positive happening.
some people are in denial here i still see.
Unfortunately for me, this is one of them. I have zero confidence in the offense to do anything right now.
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...John Jerry get fooled once again and double team a guy with Bobby Hart while a LB loops inside into the space vacated by Jerry?
And will the Ereck Flowers ship tilt too far to port allowing Ziggy Ansah to rip underneath him for a direct shot on Eli?
And will Weston Richburg get blown backwards into Eli's face?
A "yes" to two of these and we won't win.
A "yes" to three of these and it's the Lions in a route.
This is just flat out false and annoying. The Giants can win this game even if the OL doesn't play very well. They won plenty of games last year when the offense didn't play well. They were in the game last week despite the O playing terribly.
You guys obsess over this shit every day. Every fricking post...it's so tiring. We get it...the OL bothers you. Find something new to say just once.
Your words: "They were in the game last week despite the O playing terribly."
I don't think you'll find much agreement here. Giants were steam-rolled by half time, and the 19-0 score felt more like a 56-0 beat down.
And one more thing... even great running backs don't do so well behind lousy O-lines. And another problem is that the Head Coach doesn't call for many run plays, or Eli is audibling out of them. Looks like zero commitment to the run game by this team.
You'd think it should be the other way, especially with an O-line that gets turned inside out on so many passing plays.