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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/18/2017 8:44 am
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Eli obviously is no scrambler, but can't they at least move him?  
SB 42 and 46 and ? : 9/18/2017 7:12 pm : link
Take the snap under the center and roll out to one side or the other?

Defeat the twists and stunts?
RE: I fear a blow-out  
map7711 : 9/18/2017 7:13 pm : link
In comment 13602048 GeofromNJ said:
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The offensive line is deteriorating by the hour. Eli has no rapport with Marshall. The running backs are mediocre. And of course, no Beckham. The Lions are a competitive team. 9-7 last year, a productive offense, with a quarterback (Stafford) who's better than Eli. I am not hopeful at all. If I'm wrong, I'll be more than happy to fess up to not knowing much about pro football.



Ohh my lord. Stafford better than Eli. When will it stop?
Guy is 0-3 in the playoffs. My god.
If no JEnkins,  
Simms11 : 9/18/2017 7:14 pm : link
does Hunter or Cockrell get the start? Or is it DRC?
Inactives  
Mike in NY : 9/18/2017 7:15 pm : link

Giants declared CB Janoris Jenkins, MLB B.J. Goodson, QB Davis Webb, RB Wayne Gallman, LB Keenan Robinson, TE Matt LaCosse, and DE Avery Moss inactive for Week 2 against the Lions.
No Jenkins, no Goodson...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/18/2017 7:16 pm : link
People are going to have to step up, plain & simple. I'm looking at you Eli Apple.
RE: Jenkins, Goodson out. Beckham in.  
nygiants16 : 9/18/2017 7:16 pm : link
In comment 13602544 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Really disappointing with Jenkins and Goodson. Geez. They don't make 'em like they used to..


good thing is you still have drc, most likely play a lot of nickel, maybe big nickel with collins in the box
RE: Eli obviously is no scrambler, but can't they at least move him?  
Diver_Down : 9/18/2017 7:23 pm : link
In comment 13602545 SB 42 and 46 and ? said:
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Take the snap under the center and roll out to one side or the other?

Defeat the twists and stunts?


You mentioned this above I believe. While it might make sense to move Eli to avoid pressure from stunts, it also eliminates protections for the receivers. The moment the QB leaves the tackle box, then the defensive backs can make contact with the receivers as long as the ball is not thrown in the air (Pass interference still applies). A smart and ruthless tactic would be to light up the receivers the moment a QB leaves the tackle box. A receiver's success at catching the ball lying on the ground is diminished rather than letting them run unimpeded through the secondary. A perfect example (I think it was last year, but it might have been the year before) is when Sherman from Seattle obliterated a receiver in the endzone when the opposing QB scrambled outside of the tackle box. Fans decried the act as unnecessary but it was within the rules.
94 TD's since 2014...  
Britt in VA : 9/18/2017 7:26 pm : link
good for 5th in the NFL for active QB's.

Washed up.
RE: RE: I fear a blow-out  
Jim in Tampa : 9/18/2017 7:29 pm : link
In comment 13602546 map7711 said:
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Ohh my lord. Stafford better than Eli. When will it stop?
Guy is 0-3 in the playoffs. My god.


It's very debatable whether Eli is better than Stafford at this point in their respective careers but regarding the playoffs, you make it sound like QBs always win and lose games by themselves. They don't.
Lets go Giants!  
nicky43 : 9/18/2017 7:29 pm : link
I hope MacAdoo gives the o-Line the drastically needed help it needs so Eli can make a few plays without rushing everything!
Paul Perkins  
Thinblueline : 9/18/2017 7:31 pm : link
Will Rush for over 100 yards tonight... Evan Engram will get his first TD tonight.....
michael hunter  
SamdaGiantsFan : 9/18/2017 7:33 pm : link
lets get it
My God this ESPN is horrible in its production value  
montanagiant : 9/18/2017 7:42 pm : link
Awkard silences and pass offs, silly overhyping, and very rusty teamwork. Suzy is horrendous tonite
expect Stafford to exploit and get after munson  
micky : 9/18/2017 7:53 pm : link
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BleedBlue : 9/18/2017 7:55 pm : link
no jenkins or goodson...the defense bent alot last week with those guys as apple is struggling...offense def has to score tonight to have a shot
Tuck looks like he could easily suit up and play  
montanagiant : 9/18/2017 7:56 pm : link
Tonight
The dreaded calf injury  
Bluesbreaker : 9/18/2017 7:59 pm : link
no Jenkins either .. Just need to run the ball keep the defense fresh . Eli has to be able to get through his reads
and get the ball down field for a change .
I fear that the Detroit RBs  
BlueManFu : 9/18/2017 8:00 pm : link
Will absolutely shred this Defense without Robinson or Goodson.

Riddick and Abdullah against Munson in the middle? Lord have mercy
RE: I fear that the Detroit RBs  
BleedBlue : 9/18/2017 8:02 pm : link
In comment 13602649 BlueManFu said:
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Will absolutely shred this Defense without Robinson or Goodson.

Riddick and Abdullah against Munson in the middle? Lord have mercy



yea for the second week, i dont feel good.
RE: I fear that the Detroit RBs  
rocco8112 : 9/18/2017 8:03 pm : link
In comment 13602649 BlueManFu said:
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Will absolutely shred this Defense without Robinson or Goodson.

Riddick and Abdullah against Munson in the middle? Lord have mercy


Lions will not be running tonight.
RE: RE: RE: I fear a blow-out  
rocco8112 : 9/18/2017 8:05 pm : link
In comment 13602581 Jim in Tampa said:
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In comment 13602546 map7711 said:


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Ohh my lord. Stafford better than Eli. When will it stop?
Guy is 0-3 in the playoffs. My god.



It's very debatable whether Eli is better than Stafford at this point in their respective careers but regarding the playoffs, you make it sound like QBs always win and lose games by themselves. They don't.


I think Stafford is underrated. In some ways he reminds me of Eli. He may be in for a beating tonight though. I expect the D line to dominate.
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