I know there are few things that need to be fixed along the offense. I look at some of the RB's that came out of this last draft. I heard a few on here write about K. Hunt, D. Cook, and a few others. Even though it looks like the O-line will be having the same problems as last year. A good RB knows how to compensate and make things happen. The RB's on the roster either stay injured, cannot create a good run. When BJ and AB left, there hasn't been a RB that could make things happen like they did. I don't know if McAdoo's offense is the answer. The defense will wear down because this offensive scheme can't sustain consistent first downs. Not good at all!! Eli was at his best when there was strong running game. The only one on the roster that has an edge is O. Darkwa and that is only if he stays healthy. There isn't even a RB on the Practice Squad that we can say has potential. Maybe it is to early and it is a wait and see. But from what I and others are looking at. No running game the wins will be harder to get. I look at A. Morris sitting on the bench, which I think the Giants should have grabbed when he was released. The threat of a Running game in this offense is non existent. As long as it is in this state the Giants are in trouble. There will be some coming out next year. I hope I am wrong and things get better but if tonight is the same as last week. My favorite football team will have a long season. DAMN!!!!!
Although we didn't have a great running game, defenses still had to respect it. Production was down but the play action pass was effective because we had the potential to run the ball. Bradshaw and Jacobs we good pass protectors and hard runners.
Right now nobody respects our running game, OL or RB's. This and the offensive style is different than in 2011. This is a pass first offense and the run game is set up off the pass.
I think after 3 full seasons teams have enough video to figure it out.
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Not sure what Gallman and Darkwa need to do to get more carries, but I don't think Perkins is the guy we need.
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We seem to have a talent issue at RB.
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Not sure what Gallman and Darkwa need to do to get more carries, but I don't think Perkins is the guy we need.
for Gallman, dressing would be a good start.
I still disagree with the Giants not adding one single OL of note or one single RB of note this past off-season but I kind of made peace with it because they upgraded TE and WR and didn't really lose much on D---AND they added Gallman in round 4 of a very deep RB pool. And now he's inactive. That bothers me.
The Rbs are terrible until proven otherwise. They never make plays. Never.
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We seem to have a talent issue at RB.
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Not sure what Gallman and Darkwa need to do to get more carries, but I don't think Perkins is the guy we need.
I hate to say this but in a draft where RB talent was insane.. we ended picking up the next Andre Williams.. This draft has stud power RBs going well into the end of 3rd round and later..
There are still plays to be made. Granted the OL might not be blasting holes as frequently as the better OLs but there are still plays to be made. They aren't making any. It's a problem.
Darkwa is our only guy that is close to fitting that description. He needs more carries than Perkins.
A real talent at RB would cover up a lot of issues with this OL. Put yourself in a lineman's shoes. Wouldn't it make your life easier if you knew you were blocking for Eric Dickerson instead of a JAG? Of course it would. Not only would the better RB leave less meat on the bone he'd boost the confidence of the entire offense.
Again, I am not saying the OL is without issue. Of course it has issues. But these RBs aren't helping at all.
I still disagree with the Giants not adding one single OL of note or one single RB of note this past off-season but I kind of made peace with it because they upgraded TE and WR and didn't really lose much on D---AND they added Gallman in round 4 of a very deep RB pool. And now he's inactive. That bothers me.
The Rbs are terrible until proven otherwise. They never make plays. Never.
We seem to have had chronic positional crises at LB, TE, RB and OL (some might say FS).
Hopefully the first two may finally be solved -- still hard to bend my mind around that.
I'm sorry but with all due respect that's nonsense.
Are you really saying that a better talent at RB wouldn't gain more yards than the current backs? So Paul Perkins gains 3, a beast isn't gaining 5? or 10?
Like I said, the Giants couldn't run for shit back in the early 80s. DURING The season they traded for Rob Carpenter. All of a sudden the Giants found a running game. What about 2000? Ron Dayne fucking SUCKED. Tiki Barber was awesome. Was it all the OL? No. It was the RBs. One had it. The other did not.
What about 2012? Andre Brown showed flashes of greatness for 1-2 games while Bradshaw and Jacobs were dying a slow death. For one or two weeks the ground game looked terrific with Brown shredding the Panthers. Then he got hurt. And there went the running game.
This myth needs to stop that the OL makes or breaks the ground game. The OL is a big component but so is the RB.
Dallas running game was awesome in 2014. It was good in 2015. It was incredible in 2016. What changed? The RB.
Let's get this straight there are no 1000 yard running backs from the previous year or established backs.
In my opinion, Perkins looked slow and danced too much before hitting the hole. He played slow as hell in the first game, and I think he was carrying more weight on his frame to deal with the prescribed NFL hitting. I will bet he is going to be faster this week, if he dropped a few pounds to re-gain that quickness.
I watched Devonta Freeman last night need to pick up a first down late in the game. The hole he was heading for was jammed up, so he put on the brakes, slid over to his right and barrelled forward two holes away for a nice big gain. In other words, he had the instinct to adjust on the fly when the intial plan was a bust. We haven't had somebody who could do that since Bradshaw and Barber, IMO. Sure don't seem to have it now.
Gallman might be just what this offense needs in an early down back, as long as he hits the hole hard and picks up 4 yards a pop, I'd be thrilled.
Otherwise, Perkins needs to be on a short leash and perhaps benched in favor of Darkwa.
The Steelers took him after us in the 3rd, and he is Bell's primary backup, getting touches as a rookie.
David Wilson, was a fantastic athlete but one who had a high injury/bust potential, and sadly the injury got there first.
But while Gallman is tough on contact, both he and Perkins have the issue of being light in the pants, and this has been a trend in Giants' RB drafting. ANY draftee may, or may not, prove to be good in the NFL. But if your primary criteria are for a well-rounded, athlete rather than a size/power/football player, in the first instance you're left with a RB who isn't going to be of much use, whereas in the second you have one who's still big and powerful, even if they're never going to be a star.
Having said that - all of them have so far gone down fairly easily - they aren't breaking many tackles or pushing the pile much.
And while Perkins does show a little bit of elusivity, right now that skill is working against him. He's shown that he can make people miss, but I'm not sure he knows when to use that skill. He's trying to use it at the LOS and not used it enough in the open field (not that he's reached the second level much, but still).
Another bit of a mystery is what we really have at RB with Vereen. He's clearly a good receiving back, but are we telegraphing things a bit too much by making him, our highest paid back, a 3rd down only back? I'd like to see a few more carries with him if he's up to it. If he isn't he probably isn't worth his contract imo.
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If they weren't in on Blount in the offseason I think they just don't want him. He signed for 1 year and $1.25 million.
I think he would've given the Giants' a "hammer" option in the backfield that they really need, and they passed.