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Giants cut WR Tavarres King

Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/18/2017 4:05 pm
New York Giants& #8207;Verified account @Giants 5m5 minutes ago

The #NYGiants sign LB Curtis Grant off the practice squad, waive WR Tavarres King.
How does that make sense  
BillT : 9/18/2017 4:07 pm : link
5 WR and 7 LB? I know they've got some injuries at LB. Ugh.
Well....  
beatrixkiddo : 9/18/2017 4:08 pm : link
Bye.

Have to stay healthy and contribute to keep a roster spot, I don't blame them. Wish King all the best and hope he catches on somewhere.
Players like King  
Gman11 : 9/18/2017 4:09 pm : link
are a dime a dozen in the NFL. Well, maybe half a million a dozen, but you get the idea.
Does this mean Beckham plays  
Ron Johnson : 9/18/2017 4:10 pm : link
?
Cutting King over Lewis  
Giants in 07 : 9/18/2017 4:10 pm : link
is rather baffling to me
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/18/2017 4:11 pm : link
Art Stapleton‏Verified account @art_stapleton 4m4 minutes ago

I talked to Tavarres King last week and he said he is 100 percent healthy. Was a full participant in practice all week, too. #Giants
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 9/18/2017 4:11 pm : link
Art Stapleton‏Verified account @art_stapleton 4m4 minutes ago

I don't believe King status has anything to do with Odell Beckham Jr. Giants went without both last week.
RE: Players like King  
NYGmen58 : 9/18/2017 4:12 pm : link
In comment 13602320 Gman11 said:
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are a dime a dozen in the NFL. Well, maybe half a million a dozen, but you get the idea.


Huh? He's probably among the top 10 fastest players in the league. Sure, he's had trouble staying healthy but a calling him a "dime a dozen" silly.

I love how the moment a player is released, waived, or signs elsewhere, he immediately becomes dispensable to BBI.
RE: Does this mean Beckham plays  
BillT : 9/18/2017 4:12 pm : link
In comment 13602321 Ron Johnson said:
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?

Good question. Neither played against the Cowboys. I was hoping King would be back even if OBJ couldn't go.
Interesting cut  
DennyInDenville : 9/18/2017 4:12 pm : link
They sure do love Roger Lewis , guy has 9 lives. He looks fluid tho.

King was a just a fast JAG
RE: Cutting King over Lewis  
NYGmen58 : 9/18/2017 4:12 pm : link
In comment 13602323 Giants in 07 said:
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is rather baffling to me


Special Teams
Lewis is a good special teams player  
beatrixkiddo : 9/18/2017 4:13 pm : link
and played pretty well last week.

I'm sure that made the decision easier. Not to mention them wanting to get the TE's more involved.
RE: RE: Cutting King over Lewis  
DennyInDenville : 9/18/2017 4:13 pm : link
In comment 13602331 NYGmen58 said:
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In comment 13602323 Giants in 07 said:


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is rather baffling to me



Special Teams

Very true. Lewis has played well on Specials for sure , he's actually been a plus in his duties
I really liked King  
Chris : 9/18/2017 4:14 pm : link
The few times they gave him an opportunity, he produced. With a struggling offense, you would think that would result in more opportunities, but it didn't turn out that way. To all who wanted Rudolph to make the roster based on a productive preseason, King had an even better preseason last year, and was the only Giant besides Beckham who has shown an ability to get behind a defense.
lmao  
Ten Ton Hammer : 9/18/2017 4:14 pm : link
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RE: RE: Cutting King over Lewis  
Giants in 07 : 9/18/2017 4:15 pm : link
In comment 13602331 NYGmen58 said:
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In comment 13602323 Giants in 07 said:


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is rather baffling to me



Special Teams


Good point
RE: Cutting King over Lewis  
giants#1 : 9/18/2017 4:15 pm : link
In comment 13602323 Giants in 07 said:
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is rather baffling to me


Lewis contributes more on special teams and was also our best WR last week (not saying much). Lewis is much better at creating separation (IMO). His hands are another matter though...
RE: RE: Players like King  
Gman11 : 9/18/2017 4:17 pm : link
In comment 13602327 NYGmen58 said:
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In comment 13602320 Gman11 said:


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are a dime a dozen in the NFL. Well, maybe half a million a dozen, but you get the idea.



Huh? He's probably among the top 10 fastest players in the league. Sure, he's had trouble staying healthy but a calling him a "dime a dozen" silly.

I love how the moment a player is released, waived, or signs elsewhere, he immediately becomes dispensable to BBI.
Well, I guess you mean his all-pro stats speak for themselves, huh? He's been around how many years counting practice squad time and he couldn't rise above sixth WR. Yeah, he's a dime a dozen player no matter how fast he is.
cant we just resign king after tonights game?  
CGiants07 : 9/18/2017 4:18 pm : link
just like any other team
RE: RE: Players like King  
Chris in Philly : 9/18/2017 4:20 pm : link
In comment 13602327 NYGmen58 said:
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In comment 13602320 Gman11 said:


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are a dime a dozen in the NFL. Well, maybe half a million a dozen, but you get the idea.



Huh? He's probably among the top 10 fastest players in the league. Sure, he's had trouble staying healthy but a calling him a "dime a dozen" silly.

I love how the moment a player is released, waived, or signs elsewhere, he immediately becomes dispensable to BBI.


The more common reaction is that an end of the bench player is released and he is immediately made out to be a pro bowler that we are mistakenly letting go...
RE: cant we just resign king after tonights game?  
njm : 9/18/2017 4:23 pm : link
In comment 13602345 CGiants07 said:
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just like any other team


I think other teams have a shot at him first.

Also, I think, but am not positive, that he is still eligible for the practice squad.
I'd be on the phone with him  
Giantfan in skinland : 9/18/2017 4:26 pm : link
if i were the Bears right now. He'd be their best WR without knowing the playbook.
Among the top ten fastest players in the League???  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/18/2017 4:30 pm : link
NYGmen58 said:
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He's probably among the top 10 fastest players in the league. Sure, he's had trouble staying healthy but a calling him a "dime a dozen" silly.
I have no idea where that's coming from. He ran a 4.47 40 at the Combine, and didn't run at all at Georgia's Pro Day. By all evidence, he has slightly above-average speed for an NFL wideout. Half the corners in the League can outrun him.
Signing Grant  
ChicagoMarty : 9/18/2017 4:31 pm : link
bolsters the lb crew taking a hit with the Goodson injury.

I suppose they could bring back King next week if needed

The question that the Grant signing raises in my mind goes to the status of Keenan Robinson.

If Robinson is not close to being activated why not just IR him now and use that slot for Grant?

Is it possible that the staff thinks Robinson is close to being activated and can activate him next week without going the duration of the IR while bringing back King next week and cutting Grant?

The speed demon in camp this summer was Kevin Snead.  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/18/2017 4:32 pm : link
Unfortunately, he couldn't catch a cold.
He will be a  
spike : 9/18/2017 4:33 pm : link
Jet!
A  
AcidTest : 9/18/2017 4:34 pm : link
bit surprising, but let's remember we were King's fifth team. The league has had a long look at him for several years, although my guess is that he will play for someone this season. Best wishes.
ChicagoMarty: I think you are on the right track.  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/18/2017 4:35 pm : link
Time will tell whether they were right to keep Robinson on the roster rather than IR him until the bye. Clearly, they still consider him week-to-week rather than month-to-month.
I would have kept King and cut Lewis...  
EricJ : 9/18/2017 4:42 pm : link
King always made plays when given the chance.
Make a damn decision  
Carson53 : 9/18/2017 4:42 pm : link
On Robinson already, cost King a roster spot, because
they had to sign Grant from the PS at LB.
It's been about 6 weeks with Robinson already, counting preseason, geez!
RE: Make a damn decision  
Big Blue Blogger : 9/18/2017 4:45 pm : link
Carson53 said:
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On Robinson already, cost King a roster spot, because they had to sign Grant from the PS at LB. It's been about 6 weeks with Robinson already, counting preseason, geez!
It's way too early to gripe about keeping Robinson on the roster. If he's not cleared by Week 6, you can complain.
This worries me  
Reale01 : 9/18/2017 4:45 pm : link
I think this most likely means that the injury to Goodson may be worse than we thought. (Not saying total gloom and doom but out this week - maybe more) Also may say that Robinson is a way from returning.

On a positive note it could mean they are confident in Beckham's return or perhaps one of the PS receivers has shown well and made King expendable.
Sorry just saw news on Goodson  
Reale01 : 9/18/2017 4:46 pm : link
oops
RE: Make a damn decision  
Mdgiantsfan : 9/18/2017 4:49 pm : link
In comment 13602385 Carson53 said:
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On Robinson already, cost King a roster spot, because
they had to sign Grant from the PS at LB.
It's been about 6 weeks with Robinson already, counting preseason, geez!

Robinson being out this long is very concerning. I like what he brings to the table, but playing LB you gotta think it's only a matter of time before he gets another concussion.
RE: RE: Players like King  
Beer Man : 9/18/2017 5:09 pm : link
In comment 13602327 NYGmen58 said:
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In comment 13602320 Gman11 said:


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are a dime a dozen in the NFL. Well, maybe half a million a dozen, but you get the idea.



Huh? He's probably among the top 10 fastest players in the league. Sure, he's had trouble staying healthy but a calling him a "dime a dozen" silly.

I love how the moment a player is released, waived, or signs elsewhere, he immediately becomes dispensable to BBI.
He is a journey man who has bounced around the NFL a bit. If the team doesn't feel he is dispensable, he will most likely be sitting there looking for work if they feel they need him again. It takes more than speed to be a starting WR in the NFL.
He's probably cut  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 9/18/2017 5:14 pm : link
Until tomorrow morning ....then resigned
Goodson will get healthy  
antdog24 : 9/18/2017 5:21 pm : link
we will send the kid back to the practice squad and bring up Rudolph to replace King.
Disappointing.  
Mr. Bungle : 9/18/2017 5:31 pm : link
King is no world beater, but he made a big play in last year's season finale to knock out the Redskins and then another big play in the playoff game when the big-name Giants receivers were embarrassing themselves with their stone hands and disappearing acts.

It's a cliche to say that the NFL is a "what have you done for me lately league," but there's a reason cliches become cliches.
RE: RE: Make a damn decision  
Carson53 : 9/18/2017 5:44 pm : link
In comment 13602386 Big Blue Blogger said:
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Carson53 said:

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On Robinson already, cost King a roster spot, because they had to sign Grant from the PS at LB. It's been about 6 weeks with Robinson already, counting preseason, geez!

It's way too early to gripe about keeping Robinson on the roster. If he's not cleared by Week 6, you can complain.
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Tell me how you feel if you see Reddick light up Munson
out of the backfield tonight, that I 'complained too early'.
Same crap every year, porous O line, thin at LB,
nothing new around here.
King wasn't good enough to beat out the ghost of Victor Cruz.  
81_Great_Dane : 9/18/2017 6:19 pm : link
He's nothing special.

I agree with whoever above speculated that he could be re-signed. He could go on and off the roster.

Engram is a better wide receiver than King and Engram isn't really a wide receiver.
RE: Cutting King over Lewis  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/18/2017 6:39 pm : link
In comment 13602323 Giants in 07 said:
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is rather baffling to me

Why is special teams value so difficult to understand? Lewis is one of the starting gunners and has shown himself to be almost as good as, if not every bit as good as, Harris in that role. King doesn't offer a lot of extension of value beyond WR. Meanwhile, Lewis stepped in and performed reasonably well given the opportunity last week, even in an overall down week for the offense.

Oh, and then there's health - TK has been hampered since the preseason.

Finally, there's a reason King was a journeyman before he arrived here - he's a JAG.

Still baffled?
Maybe they sign  
section125 : 9/18/2017 6:46 pm : link
Rudolph....
BJ Goodson  
BigBlueHens : 9/18/2017 7:21 pm : link
is out tonight. Thats why they signed Curtis Grant.
RE: I would have kept King and cut Lewis...  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/18/2017 7:30 pm : link
In comment 13602383 EricJ said:
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King always made plays when given the chance.

And you'd be the first to complain about special teams if that unit started to underperform. Try to connect the dots for yourself.
I would've cut  
SHO'NUFF : 9/18/2017 7:47 pm : link
John Jerry.
When you think about..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/18/2017 7:55 pm : link
it logically, acting like a guy with around 7 career receptions is a star simply repressed by the coach and just needs a chance to play, it isn't very likely.

But asking a lot of people around here to be logical is like hoping the lottery is going to be won tomorrow.
Strange  
Bluesbreaker : 9/18/2017 8:05 pm : link
Seem to always make plays when he did get it oh well .
Makes me think Odell is feeling much better . Thats the good news .
Fuck that.  
KerrysFlask : 9/18/2017 8:23 pm : link
King over Lewis anyday.

Lewis sucks. (probably gets at td tonight now that I said that)
Another stupid move  
5BowlsSoon : 9/18/2017 11:35 pm : link
King is better than Marshall.
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