because he 15 yards away from the receiver. It's the receiver's job to run a route past the first down marker. How's the QB to see if he's a yard away?
five years ago, Instead they fired Coughlin. The parasitic Maras took the money and went along with businessman Tisch for PC. IMO. Been a great ride. I am done.
The Maras have always been about the money. Plus this BS loyalty crap! As long as there are asses in the seats they don't care.
Alex Webster, Ray Perkins, and Jim Fassel over McAdoo.
He's a clod. That Mars and Tische fell in love w this clown tells me all I need to know about those two silver spoon winners of the DNA lottery.
Neither should have anything to do w any type of football hire. The rammed this idiot down TC's throat. He's offense sucks. And Reese is a yes man. Let's keep drafting skill players DLs and DBS. Meanwhile They field be worst OL in football five years in a row and they get a pass after one winning season.
Was it the OL or Marshall who threw the INT in the first half that handed the Lions points?
Is there some reason we *have* to give Eli a pass for his shit first half? Even if he did recover and play much better in the second half, it's not as if damage wasn't done.
When he did have time, he held the ball for too damn long or was off target far too often. Wasn't the reason we lost, but doesn't deserve to be absolved either.
because he 15 yards away from the receiver. It's the receiver's job to run a route past the first down marker. How's the QB to see if he's a yard away?
Now you are making some sense. That won't go over well here.
because he 15 yards away from the receiver. It's the receiver's job to run a route past the first down marker. How's the QB to see if he's a yard away?
Not really, because the guy short of the first down is usually the check down guy
RE: RE: The entire offense should give Eli their fucking pay check
because he 15 yards away from the receiver. It's the receiver's job to run a route past the first down marker. How's the QB to see if he's a yard away?
Exactly, this argument that the QB is wrong for throwing to the hot receiver who is open but a 1/2 yard short is idiotic unless the whole goal is to feed an anti-Eli agenda
ball has to go past the sticks on that play, even if you have to force it down field. You don't throw short, unless you are absolutely sure the receiver can get the first down. And that was not true in that situation. Bad decision by Eli. Vereen should have run a better route, but Eli should have looked elsewhere.
Come on stop with your anti-Eli agenda. You're showing a lack of understanding basic football. It is paramount the Receiver gets pass the sticks because this is a bang-bang play that requires timing and situational awareness on the receiver. In addition you can usually count on Vereen getting 1 yard after the catch 99% of the time
I have no anti-Eli agenda. He's getting killed. He has no running game, and the pass protection is bad. But he's immobile, misses receivers even when he has time, and should have gone elsewhere on fourth down.
Blaming that on him is nothing but an anti Eli take
No, it is not. Even Sy'56 was perplexed about why they keep throwing short of the sticks. And he knows more about football than you, I, or anyone on this board.
LMAO Sy never said that is on Eli so stop trying to spin it that way. WTF is he supposed to do if the receiver is not aware of the 1st down? When have you ever heard a game getting called where the QB is wrong for throwing to the open receiver who ran the route short. This is basic football here
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Are they going to throw a pass short of the first down marker? Seriously...
The QB throws the ball. Eli is the QB.
You don't take a chance on fourth down unless the receiver is clearly able to get the first down. Eli could see Vereen was close, but not past the marker, and that a defender was nearby. You go elsewhere. And he just did it again to Beckham.
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the receivers were awful tonight
He's missed a bunch himself.
You are so anti Eli - it's insane
Yeah, that's what I am. Pay attention troll.
Yup that's what you are ass
McAdoo is incapable of getting more out of this unit. No creativity. No understanding the weaknesses of his personnel (FLOWERS NEEDS HELP).
D played OK again. Gave up 17 (one the direct fault of Eli).
This team is sinking fast.
Keep trying, Jerry. You might get one right in a few years..
The Giants are a bad team.
The Maras have always been about the money. Plus this BS loyalty crap! As long as there are asses in the seats they don't care.
He's a clod. That Mars and Tische fell in love w this clown tells me all I need to know about those two silver spoon winners of the DNA lottery.
Neither should have anything to do w any type of football hire. The rammed this idiot down TC's throat. He's offense sucks. And Reese is a yes man. Let's keep drafting skill players DLs and DBS. Meanwhile They field be worst OL in football five years in a row and they get a pass after one winning season.
Eli can turn in his $20 million too.
Was it the OL or Marshall who threw the INT in the first half that handed the Lions points?
Is there some reason we *have* to give Eli a pass for his shit first half? Even if he did recover and play much better in the second half, it's not as if damage wasn't done.
When he did have time, he held the ball for too damn long or was off target far too often. Wasn't the reason we lost, but doesn't deserve to be absolved either.
Now you are making some sense. That won't go over well here.
Season over.
Not really, because the guy short of the first down is usually the check down guy
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Eli can turn in his $20 million too.
Lol. Guess I'm wrong. My bad.
If he secures the ball better he may have held on even after that hit. He didn't make a clean catch on a ball that hit him right in the hands.
Exactly, this argument that the QB is wrong for throwing to the hot receiver who is open but a 1/2 yard short is idiotic unless the whole goal is to feed an anti-Eli agenda
Philly is the most complete team and they will probably be the team to beat.
At one time I was po'd I was gonna miss all or parts of a few games.
Now, it looks like I'll be saving myself a lot of agita.
Season over.
Assuming the season unfold that way, the scary thing is, the management might not change a thing!!
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ball has to go past the sticks on that play, even if you have to force it down field. You don't throw short, unless you are absolutely sure the receiver can get the first down. And that was not true in that situation. Bad decision by Eli. Vereen should have run a better route, but Eli should have looked elsewhere.
Come on stop with your anti-Eli agenda. You're showing a lack of understanding basic football. It is paramount the Receiver gets pass the sticks because this is a bang-bang play that requires timing and situational awareness on the receiver. In addition you can usually count on Vereen getting 1 yard after the catch 99% of the time
I have no anti-Eli agenda. He's getting killed. He has no running game, and the pass protection is bad. But he's immobile, misses receivers even when he has time, and should have gone elsewhere on fourth down.
Blaming that on him is nothing but an anti Eli take
No, it is not. Even Sy'56 was perplexed about why they keep throwing short of the sticks. And he knows more about football than you, I, or anyone on this board.
LMAO Sy never said that is on Eli so stop trying to spin it that way. WTF is he supposed to do if the receiver is not aware of the 1st down? When have you ever heard a game getting called where the QB is wrong for throwing to the open receiver who ran the route short. This is basic football here
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Sy'56 : 10:55 pm : link : reply
Are they going to throw a pass short of the first down marker? Seriously...
The QB throws the ball. Eli is the QB.
You don't take a chance on fourth down unless the receiver is clearly able to get the first down. Eli could see Vereen was close, but not past the marker, and that a defender was nearby. You go elsewhere. And he just did it again to Beckham.
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So they might still be in it
Philly is the most complete team and they will probably be the team to beat.
No way does 9-7 win this division. At least one team is winning 10 or 11