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Ben McAdoo...

SFGFNCGiantsFan : 9/18/2017 11:16 pm
Helluva game calling...Love the slick hair too.
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Ray Handley.  
Britt in VA : 9/18/2017 11:17 pm : link
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I love the way he coached Eli to throw behind Engram and  
jcn56 : 9/18/2017 11:17 pm : link
get the ball picked off.

Oh wait...
Is he supposed to block and catch the ball?  
Go Terps : 9/18/2017 11:18 pm : link
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8 games and counting...  
Britt in VA : 9/18/2017 11:19 pm : link
not breaking 20 points.
RE: Is he supposed to block and catch the ball?  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/18/2017 11:19 pm : link
In comment 13604801 Go Terps said:
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According to some; yes. Heaven forbid we field a decent OLine for the first time in YEARS. Let's give Reese another pass, just because. (Not you, just saying in general)
Unfortunately the FO will use this line of excuse making  
widmerseyebrow : 9/18/2017 11:19 pm : link
For their offensive line talent acquisition. We'll eventually get a new coach, new quarterback, and the results will be the same.
RE: Is he supposed to block and catch the ball?  
jcn56 : 9/18/2017 11:19 pm : link
In comment 13604801 Go Terps said:
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No - but he's not supposed to hold the ball for 7 seconds and expect protection, or misfire when he has time and open receivers either.

Did you guys watch the same fucking game?
I just don't understand the designed plays short of the sticks.  
Devon : 9/18/2017 11:20 pm : link
The WRs aren't fucking up each and every time and Eli can only throw it where they are/are going to be.
I was talking about McAdoo  
Go Terps : 9/18/2017 11:20 pm : link
But if you're putting tonight on Eli you don't know what you're watching.
His presser just was posted  
mattlawson : 9/18/2017 11:20 pm : link
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Link - ( New Window )
A better coached team should  
bubba0825 : 9/18/2017 11:21 pm : link
Not be running routes short of the sticks on 4th down. He's part of the problem but not the entire problem. How Reese didn't hedge his bets by bringing in serviceable back up to flowers in the off season is baffling
I'm with OP.  
KerrysFlask : 9/18/2017 11:21 pm : link
If your team can't score more than 20 THIS many fucking times in a row, playcalling or offensive system is a problem. We have talent.

Well, a little.
The players underperformed  
Jim in Forest Hills : 9/18/2017 11:21 pm : link
But this is not a well coached team.


You know a well coached team when you see it.
RE: I just don't understand the designed plays short of the sticks.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/18/2017 11:21 pm : link
In comment 13604823 Devon said:
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The WRs aren't fucking up each and every time and Eli can only throw it where they are/are going to be.


Probably because they know they're not going to have a ton of time to throw it with this shit-house OL?
Honeymoon is  
St. Jimmy : 9/18/2017 11:21 pm : link
over.
RE: I was talking about McAdoo  
jcn56 : 9/18/2017 11:21 pm : link
In comment 13604829 Go Terps said:
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But if you're putting tonight on Eli you don't know what you're watching.


McAdoo owns a big part of this - but for the guy who is steadfast in refusing to pay OBJ, the $20M we're dropping on Eli right now is hurting like crazy.
RE: RE: Is he supposed to block and catch the ball?  
Giantology : 9/18/2017 11:21 pm : link
In comment 13604819 jcn56 said:
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No - but he's not supposed to hold the ball for 7 seconds and expect protection, or misfire when he has time and open receivers either.

Did you guys watch the same fucking game?


I'm no McAdoo hater, but I wasn't pleased with our playcalling tonight. Of course, that's fairly hard to judge when we can't execute any of it worth shit. Beyond that though, tucking our tails with over a minute left and 3 time outs at the end of the 2nd half? Come on.
Seriously, how so you make any concrete judgements about this guy  
widmerseyebrow : 9/18/2017 11:21 pm : link
When this line only allows for short quick passes back and nothing else? He may very well stink as a coordinator, but how do you know with this front?
It's pretty obvious that McAdoo was gifted his job  
Mr. Bungle : 9/18/2017 11:22 pm : link
so he would turn the offense into something strong and competitive.

He hasn't. The buck stops there. He's the head coach.
RE: Is he supposed to block and catch the ball?  
AnishPatel : 9/18/2017 11:22 pm : link
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Exactly, everyone piling on him, but the talent on this offense is god awful. Reese expecting the OL will be better with a year under their belt was ballsy, but backfired on him.

You can't call a game or do anything when you're OL is that fucking useless.
RE: Seriously, how so you make any concrete judgements about this guy  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/18/2017 11:23 pm : link
In comment 13604853 widmerseyebrow said:
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When this line only allows for short quick passes back and nothing else? He may very well stink as a coordinator, but how do you know with this front?


Yup. Not to mention, short passes that Eli doesn't even hit accurately quite a bit of the time, even with time..
Blaming the qb for this mess  
crick n NC : 9/18/2017 11:23 pm : link
Is a solid way to show you suck at football
He couldnt  
Mike from SI : 9/18/2017 11:24 pm : link
Have called some time outs at the end of the 1st half to maybe have a 2 minute drill?
they look disinterested  
nygiants16 : 9/18/2017 11:24 pm : link
the offense just looks lost and the head coach is an offensive coach...

soon the defense is going to start saying screw this, jpp makes a great play team has momentum and then int, detroit comes in and scores and thats all she wrote...

the team just doesnt look like they care, team is starijg 0-3 and if you look at the schedule it could be 0-5
I've said since day one,  
prdave73 : 9/18/2017 11:24 pm : link
but not many believe it. He was the wrong guy plain and simple. Huge mistake by the Giants org to go cheap at HC and OC.
RE: RE: I just don't understand the designed plays short of the sticks.  
Devon : 9/18/2017 11:24 pm : link
In comment 13604837 Dave in Hoboken said:
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The WRs aren't fucking up each and every time and Eli can only throw it where they are/are going to be.



Probably because they know they're not going to have a ton of time to throw it with this shit-house OL?


Two yards or so, in most cases, isn't going to make that much of a difference.

Trust me, I'm not excusing this shit stain of an OL either.
You could put Joe Montana behind this line and it would be a mess  
Go Terps : 9/18/2017 11:24 pm : link
And fuck Beckham. We're down two TDs and he's talking shit after catching an 8 yard pass. If they pay that clown they're fucking nuts.
RE: Blaming the qb for this mess  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/18/2017 11:24 pm : link
In comment 13604876 crick n NC said:
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Is a solid way to show you suck at football


Not if you saw that first half, and really, most of the game.
He gets paid to coach  
KWhite2250 : 9/18/2017 11:25 pm : link
And he fucking didnt. 1st series out of half he gives no help to flowers. That was the most obvious change.

How bout running off to boos with a smirk on his face after not calling a timeout before the fg. And then giving up on the half with 3 timeouts.

McDaniels  
beatrixkiddo : 9/18/2017 11:25 pm : link
McAdoo can't make adjustments, equally as stubborn as Coughlin. This team is undisciplined and can't make any progress. Pathetic offense.
RE: Ray Handley.  
BigBlueShock : 9/18/2017 11:25 pm : link
In comment 13604782 Britt in VA said:
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You're an absolute clown. We all know you have Coughlins Dick firmly implanted into your mouth, but it's getting ridiculous at this point. The plays were there to be made. They didn't fucking make them. Drops, bad passes, a punt return for a TD, running routes short of the line for a first. Yeah, all on "Ray Handley". You're truly embarrassing yourself in your Coughlin crusade and quite frankly, nobody is in the mood for it so fuck off.
RE: RE: Blaming the qb for this mess  
crick n NC : 9/18/2017 11:26 pm : link
In comment 13604888 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Is a solid way to show you suck at football



Not if you saw that first half, and really, most of the game.


You're definitely a simpleton when it comes to football
Detroits play calling was better than the Giants  
St. Jimmy : 9/18/2017 11:26 pm : link
on third and long. They would at least have a chance to convert. They ran well executed screens. Giants seem to run a play where three guys need to miss and it gains 6 yards.
RE: RE: Ray Handley.  
Britt in VA : 9/18/2017 11:26 pm : link
In comment 13604895 BigBlueShock said:
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You're an absolute clown. We all know you have Coughlins Dick firmly implanted into your mouth, but it's getting ridiculous at this point. The plays were there to be made. They didn't fucking make them. Drops, bad passes, a punt return for a TD, running routes short of the line for a first. Yeah, all on "Ray Handley". You're truly embarrassing yourself in your Coughlin crusade and quite frankly, nobody is in the mood for it so fuck off.


Last time the Giants went 8 games without scoring 20 points was 1978.
Giants WR's tonight..  
prdave73 : 9/18/2017 11:26 pm : link
Odell 35 yds, Marshall 15 yds, Shepard 23 yds???! What an alarming stat..
RE: Blaming the qb for this mess  
jcn56 : 9/18/2017 11:26 pm : link
In comment 13604876 crick n NC said:
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You're right - he's blameless. He did enough to win.

The INT, holding the ball far too damn long - all because of the OL. Or the coach.

Save for a handful of seasons, we've been making these excuses for Eli for a long damn time, even while TC was here.
Time management, use of timeouts,  
SHO'NUFF : 9/18/2017 11:27 pm : link
decision-making (going for it on 4th and goal was questionable), use of personnel and insisting on doing the same things over and over with the same results = The definition of McAdoo Madness.
RE: RE: RE: Blaming the qb for this mess  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/18/2017 11:27 pm : link
In comment 13604906 crick n NC said:
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Is a solid way to show you suck at football



Not if you saw that first half, and really, most of the game.



You're definitely a simpleton when it comes to football


Nah. Just don't have Eli's cock in my mouth 24/7.
RE: I was talking about McAdoo  
micky : 9/18/2017 11:27 pm : link
In comment 13604829 Go Terps said:
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But if you're putting tonight on Eli you don't know what you're watching.


Eli was, as usual, PART of the problem, not ALL...

but keep apologizing for him..or excuse. ol, Eli, Mac, drops by receivers. st breakdown atwrong time..its broken record. period!
RE: RE: Ray Handley.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/18/2017 11:28 pm : link
In comment 13604895 BigBlueShock said:
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You're an absolute clown. We all know you have Coughlins Dick firmly implanted into your mouth, but it's getting ridiculous at this point. The plays were there to be made. They didn't fucking make them. Drops, bad passes, a punt return for a TD, running routes short of the line for a first. Yeah, all on "Ray Handley". You're truly embarrassing yourself in your Coughlin crusade and quite frankly, nobody is in the mood for it so fuck off.


Didn't TC miss the postseason his last 4 years as a HC?!
RE: You could put Joe Montana behind this line and it would be a mess  
jcn56 : 9/18/2017 11:28 pm : link
In comment 13604887 Go Terps said:
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And fuck Beckham. We're down two TDs and he's talking shit after catching an 8 yard pass. If they pay that clown they're fucking nuts.


He wasn't shit talking - he was yelling at his own team to pick up the pace.

At this point, paying Eli $20M/yr is a much bigger part of the problem.
RE: Giants WR's tonight..  
EricJ : 9/18/2017 11:28 pm : link
In comment 13604916 prdave73 said:
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Odell 35 yds, Marshall 15 yds, Shepard 23 yds???! What an alarming stat..


I think 62 yards rushing too...
RE: RE: Blaming the qb for this mess  
crick n NC : 9/18/2017 11:28 pm : link
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Is a solid way to show you suck at football



You're right - he's blameless. He did enough to win.

The INT, holding the ball far too damn long - all because of the OL. Or the coach.

Save for a handful of seasons, we've been making these excuses for Eli for a long damn time, even while TC was here.


Reading comprehension, I didn't say he is blameless, however, how do you expect a qb to perform in this mess?
RE: RE: RE: Ray Handley.  
Britt in VA : 9/18/2017 11:29 pm : link
In comment 13604935 Dave in Hoboken said:
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You're an absolute clown. We all know you have Coughlins Dick firmly implanted into your mouth, but it's getting ridiculous at this point. The plays were there to be made. They didn't fucking make them. Drops, bad passes, a punt return for a TD, running routes short of the line for a first. Yeah, all on "Ray Handley". You're truly embarrassing yourself in your Coughlin crusade and quite frankly, nobody is in the mood for it so fuck off.



Didn't TC miss the postseason his last 4 years as a HC?!


McAdoo is an offensive coach.

The last time the Giants went 8 games in a row without scoring 20 points was 1978.
at least ODB  
mdthedream : 9/18/2017 11:29 pm : link
shows some Fin emotion unlike are Fin leader Eli. The guy is just going through the motions. Get pissed off or something.
Seriously are there electrodes attached to Flowers  
Marine One : 9/18/2017 11:29 pm : link
nuts? He plants like he's being electrocuted and has no athletic ability at all! Like the classmate who is this huge man and nobody can figure out why he doesn't play ball! He's not getting better, he's GETTING WORSE! This might just be his worst outing yet IMHO!
McAdoo is not the answer. Say what you want about the OL, unless  
Jim in Hoboken : 9/18/2017 11:29 pm : link
OBJ is breaking big ones or the opposing defense is in prevent, this offense plain stinks. After 3 years of giving inferior personnel tasks they are incapable of handling, at some point you have to blame the coach for the players' lack of execution too.

I'm no big fan of Reese either. He reaches on too many high picks and misses on them. He's fixated on certain positions to the detriment of other key ones.

Among the big 3, I think Eli should be give the benefit of the doubt. He may be slipping, but he deserves some slack for the past glory he's afforded us.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Blaming the qb for this mess  
crick n NC : 9/18/2017 11:29 pm : link
In comment 13604926 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Is a solid way to show you suck at football



Not if you saw that first half, and really, most of the game.



You're definitely a simpleton when it comes to football



Nah. Just don't have Eli's cock in my mouth 24/7.


Simpleton
He's got the Donnie brasco look.....  
thrunthrublue : 9/18/2017 11:29 pm : link
And the ray handley record in his future. 17 is a season to tank, retire eli, and go into a total rebuild, without jerry,.....he needs to be shown the door.
The past couple years of Coughlin  
BigBlueShock : 9/18/2017 11:30 pm : link
Were some of the worst coached teams I've seen in my life. So spare me me your Coughlin revisionist bullshit. We all lovecwhat TC did for the Giants, but it's time to let go. For fucks sake.
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