These guys have ignored the oline too long. What should the fans expect when the team does nothing to improve the weakest part of the team. The team looks as uninspired as they did during the Handley era..
Not much to say otherwise. Marshall's toast. Flowers is a bust. McAdoo's honeymoon is over. Reese's ass should be in the line. We'll be lucky to split the next two - this is looking like a 7-9 football team and maybe worse.
whose strength was play-action downfield passing and turned him into Captain Checkdown.
That's not remotely the criticism to make tonight.
It's a criticism since McAdoo came on and the philosophy change pushed on Coughlin.
They demanded that his completion % go up, hence this scheme. The OL also sucks because they felt they didn't need to upgrade because the quick passing game would mask it - but they forgot you need to run the ball effectively as well.
before they get a "break" with the Rams/49'ers...though even winning those two is going to be a struggle. This is as scary bad as the late 70's. I watched those teams, and even they weren't as offensively inept as these guys (well, maybe the 1978 team was!)
And there's nothing they can do about the offense right now...no quick fixes for the run or passing game.
whose strength was play-action downfield passing and turned him into Captain Checkdown.
That's not remotely the criticism to make tonight.
It's a criticism since McAdoo came on and the philosophy change pushed on Coughlin.
They demanded that his completion % go up, hence this scheme. The OL also sucks because they felt they didn't need to upgrade because the quick passing game would mask it - but they forgot you need to run the ball effectively as well.
They likely did not expect % of 3rd conversions would drop in the process.
drop is that it probably prevents him from popping off. He surely regrets signing up for this sh*t-show and has hardly been targeted. Now he can't say squat.
But they need to reorganize the OL. How about Pugh, Fluker, Richberg, Jerry, Wheeler. Flowers need to sit for now if not forever. Hart is hurt. Who knows.
RE: Let me be the first to say this, although in jest right now,
whose strength was play-action downfield passing and turned him into Captain Checkdown.
That's not remotely the criticism to make tonight.
It's a criticism since McAdoo came on and the philosophy change pushed on Coughlin.
They demanded that his completion % go up, hence this scheme. The OL also sucks because they felt they didn't need to upgrade because the quick passing game would mask it - but they forgot you need to run the ball effectively as well.
We're talking about tonight and they tried to push the ball down field some. Guys didn't get open causing a couple coverage sacks and then they dropped some others.
Eli hung in there and got completely fucked up on some plays tonight because he wouldn't just check down.
But they need to reorganize the OL. How about Pugh, Fluker, Richberg, Jerry, Wheeler. Flowers need to sit for now if not forever. Hart is hurt. Who knows.
I agree. The way things are now isn't and won't work. Time to blow it up.
when we have Ereck Flowers at left tackle just isn't fair. The guy is comically bad. The reports during training camp said he was embarrassing against the taxi squad. He is a turnstile. Nothing works offensively if you 2seconds to pass. scary how bad we look.
Bad OL and an immobile QB mean that teams can control the LOS with just their front four. The Lions at one point had five sacks with no blitzes. Eli played better in the second half. The Marshall drop was killer, and he took a wicked shot on the pass to Shepard. He has no pass protection, or run game. The throws he missed were probably a function of the hits he's taken. But he is inaccurate, and slow footed. He needs a much cleaner pocket now than we can give him.
That's not remotely the criticism to make tonight.
Not sure about Eli...he is not making a difference out there at all. T
Hell, when is our next reasonably winnable game? Don't we play the Bucs and the Broncos after Philly?
good times.. fuck this team right now..
Jerry should have re-signed Hankins.
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whose strength was play-action downfield passing and turned him into Captain Checkdown.
That's not remotely the criticism to make tonight.
It's a criticism since McAdoo came on and the philosophy change pushed on Coughlin.
They demanded that his completion % go up, hence this scheme. The OL also sucks because they felt they didn't need to upgrade because the quick passing game would mask it - but they forgot you need to run the ball effectively as well.
Next week we might score 13 points, but we'll give up a punt return and a pick six.
And there's nothing they can do about the offense right now...no quick fixes for the run or passing game.
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whose strength was play-action downfield passing and turned him into Captain Checkdown.
That's not remotely the criticism to make tonight.
It's a criticism since McAdoo came on and the philosophy change pushed on Coughlin.
They demanded that his completion % go up, hence this scheme. The OL also sucks because they felt they didn't need to upgrade because the quick passing game would mask it - but they forgot you need to run the ball effectively as well.
They likely did not expect % of 3rd conversions would drop in the process.
Jerry should have re-signed Hankins.
You will be the last. The defense is not the problem. Two games 13 point.
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whose strength was play-action downfield passing and turned him into Captain Checkdown.
That's not remotely the criticism to make tonight.
It's a criticism since McAdoo came on and the philosophy change pushed on Coughlin.
They demanded that his completion % go up, hence this scheme. The OL also sucks because they felt they didn't need to upgrade because the quick passing game would mask it - but they forgot you need to run the ball effectively as well.
We're talking about tonight and they tried to push the ball down field some. Guys didn't get open causing a couple coverage sacks and then they dropped some others.
Eli hung in there and got completely fucked up on some plays tonight because he wouldn't just check down.
I agree. The way things are now isn't and won't work. Time to blow it up.
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lol we are gonna be 0-3
Hell, when is our next reasonably winnable game? Don't we play the Bucs and the Broncos after Philly?
I think the best we can realistically hope for is 2-5 at the bye. We're toast.
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that's improvement!
Next week we might score 13 points, but we'll give up a punt return and a pick six.
We are gonna get shut out.
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lol we are gonna be 0-3
Hell, when is our next reasonably winnable game? Don't we play the Bucs and the Broncos after Philly?
Tampa, San Diego, Denver, Seattle
Bad OL and an immobile QB mean that teams can control the LOS with just their front four. The Lions at one point had five sacks with no blitzes. Eli played better in the second half. The Marshall drop was killer, and he took a wicked shot on the pass to Shepard. He has no pass protection, or run game. The throws he missed were probably a function of the hits he's taken. But he is inaccurate, and slow footed. He needs a much cleaner pocket now than we can give him.
Didn't take you long. Wow.