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Time for McAdoo to give up playcalling duties.

lawguy9801 : 9/18/2017 11:52 pm
How much worse can it be for Mike Sullivan to call plays?

McAdoo needs to give this team a jump start. I know the OL sucks, but there is too much talent at the receiver position to be resembling the late 70s Giants.

"More Cowbell" is plainly not the solution. But McAdoo seems too stubborn and prideful to change. Hopefully I'm wrong.
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GmeninPSL : 9/18/2017 11:53 pm : link
many of us have felt this way going back to last season. he should have given it up in the off season and figured it out!
agree 10000000005  
ShocknAwe80 : 9/18/2017 11:54 pm : link
Guy never changes the game plan!
They need to fire someone  
SHO'NUFF : 9/18/2017 11:56 pm : link
Solari is the logical choice.
The time to do this was last year during the bye week  
KentGraham : 9/18/2017 11:57 pm : link
McAdoo will throw away the season before swallowing his pride like that.
I've been saying this in various threads tonight....  
lawguy9801 : 9/18/2017 11:57 pm : link
....But think about what a good offensive coach would do with our talent.

If you gave the same exact offense to Bill Belichick or an OC like Mike McCoy, does anyone seriously think this team would go 8 games without scoring 20 points?

McAdoo is a goddamn Handley-esque bum.
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Reb8thVA : 9/19/2017 12:00 am : link
Has got to start somewhere
Sullivan didn't run the WCO in Tampa right?  
Essex : 9/19/2017 12:02 am : link
What makes anyone think He can call it effectively
I've felt this way since he became HC...  
Vinny from Danbury : 9/19/2017 12:03 am : link
Doubt it happens any time soon, unless Mara/Tisch forces it. Ben's a stubborn, control freak. I doubt he gives it up without being forced to.
RE: I've been saying this in various threads tonight....  
averagejoe : 9/19/2017 12:03 am : link
In comment 13605276 lawguy9801 said:
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....But think about what a good offensive coach would do with our talent.

If you gave the same exact offense to Bill Belichick or an OC like Mike McCoy, does anyone seriously think this team would go 8 games without scoring 20 points?

McAdoo is a goddamn Handley-esque bum.


You have invoked the name of he who must never be mentioned. Sadly a good comparison. A technocrat dweeb with no emotion.
We saw the same thing last year.....  
Doomster : 9/19/2017 12:05 am : link
Eli leads the league in third down completions, that don't result in first downs.....

Last week, it took 3 completions to get a first down....

Tonight we completed passes on third and fourth down, and still did not get a first down.....

How can something like this happen, week after week? It's freakin' coaching, that let's this happen continuously....
Sullivan  
GiantTerp79 : 9/19/2017 12:06 am : link
Bombed in Tampa before McAdoo scraped him up off the unemployment line. Reese did what he's done time and time again, he got out smarted when he thought McAdoo was going to leave for another HC (I think it was Philly) so he jumped the shark and hired him first. He got out smarted when he wanted the linebacker Floyd in the draft two years ago and he outsmarted himself when he drafted Flowers even though all the scouting reports said he has major technique issues. That's not a #9 pick!!!
RE: Sullivan  
Essex : 9/19/2017 12:08 am : link
In comment 13605333 GiantTerp79 said:
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Bombed in Tampa before McAdoo scraped him up off the unemployment line. Reese did what he's done time and time again, he got out smarted when he thought McAdoo was going to leave for another HC (I think it was Philly) so he jumped the shark and hired him first. He got out smarted when he wanted the linebacker Floyd in the draft two years ago and he outsmarted himself when he drafted Flowers even though all the scouting reports said he has major technique issues. That's not a #9 pick!!!


I thought Sullivan's first year in Tampa was good, it was the second year when the whole thing fell apart with Schiano that he was terrible
Doubt it makes much difference.  
81_Great_Dane : 9/19/2017 12:10 am : link
At least, it won't if the linemen don't block and the receivers don't catch.
if nothing else would  
bluepepper : 9/19/2017 12:16 am : link
be a good move symbolically. Let the team know he's at least partly at fault for the poor offensive play. And WCO experience or not, how much worse can the O be with Sullivan calling the plays.
RE: if nothing else would  
lawguy9801 : 9/19/2017 12:19 am : link
In comment 13605410 bluepepper said:
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be a good move symbolically. Let the team know he's at least partly at fault for the poor offensive play. And WCO experience or not, how much worse can the O be with Sullivan calling the plays.


Bingo and bingo
RE: RE: Sullivan  
GiantTerp79 : 9/19/2017 12:20 am : link

I thought Sullivan's first year in Tampa was good, it was the second year when the whole thing fell apart with Schiano that he was terrible [/quote]

It was OK, they went 7-9 but it was all Doug Martin and Vincent Jackson that year.
The thing is,  
chopperhatch : 9/19/2017 12:34 am : link
And I was saying this to some old BBIers on Facebook, when have you seen McAdoo get involved in the game other than calling plays? He never argues bad callS. He never argues when calls are NOT called. You never see him giving players hell for bonehead plays or consistent bad play.

His lack of effort to conserve time before the FG attempt to end the half and to accept a 10 point deficit going into the half is a loser mentality. Say what you want about Doug Pederson missing on 2/3 4th downs against us, but at least he was trying to win.

I hate his demeanor, I hate his passiveness, I hate his hair. He sucks. He reminds me of Jim Caldwell.
RE: They need to fire someone  
gmenatlarge : 9/19/2017 7:00 am : link
In comment 13605273 SHO'NUFF said:
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Solari is the logical choice.


But they won't, they don't even bench anybody for this piss-poor play, they just keep doing the...same...thing, insane!
If was time last year.  
KerrysFlask : 9/19/2017 8:22 am : link
What's the difference now?

Just more of the same insane dumb shit.

And what does Sullivan even do here? He's clearly no help.
Giants need a new scheme  
joe48 : 9/19/2017 4:14 pm : link
Who cares about play calling.
i said it under Jim Fassel  
idiotsavant : 9/19/2017 4:26 pm : link
no pass pro gives you two options:

1. pass quick/short and then wrs have to run YACs, which, lacking a real run/pass game gets your WRs -killed-. See Becks, preseason.

2. chuck and duck long. which gets your QB killed, or leads to INTs and INCs.

In some ways we have come full circle
Such arrogance  
trueblueinpw : 9/19/2017 5:25 pm : link
Why does McAdoo think he's good at play calling? The Giants offense last year was historically bad. There were a couple of teams below the Giants in offensive production but they were dumpster fire franchises without QB or superstar OBJ. McAdoo is a complete failure as a play caller. Yet, he refuses to turn over the calls. Heck, the HC can always override a call.
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