Ray Handley was never a coordinator, who was handed a job because our coach quit for health reasons in May. Ray handley never produced an offense that McAdoo did here when he was a coordinator. Ray Handley never went 11-5 and made the playoffs. Now, this is not to say I am happy with McAdoo, I am not. He needs to find a solution to the offensive line and think outside the box; he needs to change parts of his offense because it is simply not working. If he can adjust and do so, great. I hope he looks at the film from the middle of the third quarter on, because the offense became more functional (drops killed us). He needs to clean up the mess, but I am not willing to go anywhere near the Handley comparisons. (As an aside, not that I think any two situations are similar, but it's more like Fassell than Handley--good first season because of defense which was not his speciality, struggled second season).
What is different was he inherited a team that had just won a SB and still had a great defense.
The loss of two HOF caliber coaches in Belichick and Parcells was just too much to overcome, though, and those guys were getting up in years. Another coach might have wrung a couple of winning seasons out of them, but Handley blew it.
The current coach and Handley are about as comparable as our 0-2 start is to 2007.
MCAdoo is a dope and the people here who think he was the main reason for 11-5 are delusional.
What is different was he inherited a team that had just won a SB and still had a great defense.
The loss of two HOF caliber coaches in Belichick and Parcells was just too much to overcome, though, and those guys were getting up in years. Another coach might have wrung a couple of winning seasons out of them, but Handley blew it.
The current coach and Handley are about as comparable as our 0-2 start is to 2007.
I could be wrong, but my memory was that Ray Handley was the running backs coach in 90, was promoted to OC after the super bowl, but never had a game at that role as he was then promoted to HC after Parcells retired in the Spring (and after Belly left for CLE).
MCAdoo is a dope and the people here who think he was the main reason for 11-5 are delusional.
I don't know if that's true, it might be true. We were 11-5 last year and he doesn't have to be the "main reason" we were but he also made a lot of smart decisions to close out close games. Also, early in the season he went for and made a bunch of fourth downs that people were going wild about. So, I am not willing to discount last season. What I am willing to say is that he looks committed to a system that didn't work last year on offense and isn't working this year and has shown no adjustments and that is a major concern.
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Handley was an OC - although basically taking over an established offense.
What is different was he inherited a team that had just won a SB and still had a great defense.
The loss of two HOF caliber coaches in Belichick and Parcells was just too much to overcome, though, and those guys were getting up in years. Another coach might have wrung a couple of winning seasons out of them, but Handley blew it.
The current coach and Handley are about as comparable as our 0-2 start is to 2007.
I could be wrong, but my memory was that Ray Handley was the running backs coach in 90, was promoted to OC after the super bowl, but never had a game at that role as he was then promoted to HC after Parcells retired in the Spring (and after Belly left for CLE).
Now that you mention it you might be right, I remember them offering the OC spot to Handley to keep him from going back to school, but I think it was after the 90 SB.
Lets not forget that Mac did not take over the same team that Coughlin had. Mac took over the same team plus $200M of defensive studs, big difference. If Mac doesn't turn this around then I agree with the comparison.
Lets not forget that Mac did not take over the same team that Coughlin had. Mac took over the same team plus $200M of defensive studs, big difference. If Mac doesn't turn this around then I agree with the comparison.
Handley took over for a legend who basically had done nothing here but win (beside his first year and the strike year) and quit. Mcadoo took over for a guy who handing made the playoffs for four straight years, had three double digit loss years in a row, and hadn't made the playoffs for six of seven years. The coach he took over for was fired. I understand Coughlin was a good coach who achieved the ultimate prize twice, and that shouldn't be discounted, but also we can't have revisionist history either. Coughlin was done here and McAdoo made the playoffs his first year with a 11-5 record and has had great difficulty in year 2 in the first two games. I see no valid comparison at the moment. Nothing even close.
Yes, its getting that desperate.Maybe its time to bring him back?
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Is that neither was qualified to be a HC.
MCAdoo is a dope and the people here who think he was the main reason for 11-5 are delusional.
I don't know if that's true, it might be true. We were 11-5 last year and he doesn't have to be the "main reason" we were but he also made a lot of smart decisions to close out close games. Also, early in the season he went for and made a bunch of fourth downs that people were going wild about. So, I am not willing to discount last season. What I am willing to say is that he looks committed to a system that didn't work last year on offense and isn't working this year and has shown no adjustments and that is a major concern.
Looking at other guys available I think he was easily one to the most under qualified. And the Giants thought he was. I don't. Never HC anywhere and only an OC for the Giants. Three step drops and throwing the ball
To OBJ Doesn't make him Bill Walsh to me.
His resume was paper thin as an OC. Head coach? As
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Lucky bastard he was. Also listening to the things he says leads me to believe in Santeria
First funny thing I've read on BBI today.
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Array Switzerland won a Super Bowl.
First funny thing I've read on BBI today.
Lol. Autocorrect made Barry Switzer an even bigger joke