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Giants Kick-Off That Ends Up on Our Own 45 Yard Line...

M.S. : 9/19/2017 9:48 am
...could someone please explain this one.

I know the kick went out-of-bounds so that should put the ball at the 40... no?

Was there a tack-on for the celebration penalty by Evan Engram?

Something else?

Thanks in advacne.
Yes, it was the combination of the Engram penalty and the Kickoff OOB.  
Britt in VA : 9/19/2017 9:49 am : link
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Listening to MNF  
gmenatlarge : 9/19/2017 9:50 am : link
you never would have known anything happened, they kept talking about some other nonsense while the refs kept moving the ball up, first to the 50 then to giants 45. Just part of the total meltdown.
But why wasn't  
PEEJ : 9/19/2017 9:51 am : link
the penalty marked off before the kickoff rather than after ?
Rosas tried to make up for the penalty...swung too hard and mishit it.  
guitarguybs12 : 9/19/2017 9:52 am : link
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My question is  
smshmth8690 : 9/19/2017 9:52 am : link
when did they start tacking penalty yards on after the following play? Didn't they make the Giants kickoff from further back? Isn't that why the ball went out of bounds? I can't go back to look, because I deleted the mess from my dvr already,
kickoffs OOB  
giants#1 : 9/19/2017 9:52 am : link
the rule is the ball gets placed 25 yards from where it was kicked, not at the 40 yard line. The Engram penalty resulted in them kicking from the 20 instead of the 35.
RE: Listening to MNF  
giants#1 : 9/19/2017 9:54 am : link
In comment 13606081 gmenatlarge said:
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you never would have known anything happened, they kept talking about some other nonsense while the refs kept moving the ball up, first to the 50 then to giants 45. Just part of the total meltdown.


The broadcast was awful. Routinely showed wide angles or promos at the snap, never explained the Engram penalty, kept claiming Apple was a backup only playing significant time due to Jenkins injury, etc.
RE: kickoffs OOB  
PEEJ : 9/19/2017 9:54 am : link
In comment 13606088 giants#1 said:
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the rule is the ball gets placed 25 yards from where it was kicked, not at the 40 yard line. The Engram penalty resulted in them kicking from the 20 instead of the 35.

Thanks. Didn't realize the KO was from the 20
RE: My question is  
giants#1 : 9/19/2017 9:54 am : link
In comment 13606086 smshmth8690 said:
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when did they start tacking penalty yards on after the following play? Didn't they make the Giants kickoff from further back? Isn't that why the ball went out of bounds? I can't go back to look, because I deleted the mess from my dvr already,


A few years ago they started giving teams the option of taking the penalty yardage on the XPA or on the KO. Obviously every team is going to choose the latter.
RE: kickoffs OOB  
smshmth8690 : 9/19/2017 9:55 am : link
In comment 13606088 giants#1 said:
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the rule is the ball gets placed 25 yards from where it was kicked, not at the 40 yard line. The Engram penalty resulted in them kicking from the 20 instead of the 35.


Thank you for clearing that up for me.
RE: My question is  
jcn56 : 9/19/2017 9:55 am : link
In comment 13606086 smshmth8690 said:
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when did they start tacking penalty yards on after the following play? Didn't they make the Giants kickoff from further back? Isn't that why the ball went out of bounds? I can't go back to look, because I deleted the mess from my dvr already,


They've been doing that on XPs and punts/KOs for awhile.

Initially it threw me but it made sense, it would have gone to the 40 if normally kicked OOB, but tack on 15 yards for the taunting penalty and you end up at our 45.
RE: But why wasn't  
giants#1 : 9/19/2017 9:56 am : link
In comment 13606083 PEEJ said:
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the penalty marked off before the kickoff rather than after ?


It was. They kicked from the 20 yard line. The penalty when the ball goes OOB is relative to where it was kicked from. It's not automatically placed at the 40. Otherwise, this would arguably be a smart play be Rosas.
But engram looked so cool grabbing his balls after his first rd.  
32_Razor : 9/19/2017 9:57 am : link
I can't wait for the Steiner sports collectible pic.
They finally did explain it last night but that idiot Gruden  
fbdad : 9/19/2017 10:00 am : link
kept talking right over the explanation.

The rule isn't that a kick off out of bounds goes to the 40 yard line. The rule is that it goes to a spot 25 yards from where it was kicked. Since most kickoffs happen from the 35 yard line, the other team's 40 is just where the math puts it.

However on that play last night, there was a penalty imposed on the kick off. We kicked off from our own 20, meaning that when it went out of bounds, the 25 yard walk off put the ball on the 45
RE: But engram looked so cool grabbing his balls after his first rd.  
Beer Man : 9/19/2017 10:59 am : link
In comment 13606109 32_Razor said:
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I can't wait for the Steiner sports collectible pic.
I would bet there will be a fine for that little move.
RE: But engram looked so cool grabbing his balls after his first rd.  
Beer Man : 9/19/2017 11:01 am : link
In comment 13606109 32_Razor said:
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I can't wait for the Steiner sports collectible pic.
I would bet there will be a fine for that little move.
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