offenses ever. The Houston Oilers and NY Giants. The guy had a completely different approach than McAdoo. He got pushed out because we stopped moving the ball and everyone blamed his complicated scheme. Looking back with hindsight, it was the beginning of the demise of the OL not his scheme. Eli, like last night, never had time.
executing deeper passing concepts and got Eli killed. Now you want to go back to a system where we ran a lot of 5 and 7 step drops?!! This is why made the fucking change to begin with.
executing deeper passing concepts and got Eli killed. Now you want to go back to a system where we ran a lot of 5 and 7 step drops?!! This is why made the fucking change to begin with.
Agreed, but now we can't even run a 3 step drop without someone getting to Eli.
on 3rd and long last night. That was nothing if not Gilbridesque.
Yes but my guess is that Eli has that option to check out of a pass based on how many people are on the box. So basically the right call, but our OL is such trash that they can't even execute that.
on 3rd and long last night. That was nothing if not Gilbridesque.
Yes but my guess is that Eli has that option to check out of a pass based on how many people are on the box. So basically the right call, but our OL is such trash that they can't even execute that.
He did it at the 11 yard line yesterday with Vereen. No one in the box but Jarrad Davis, he checks to a draw which should gain yards or even a touchdown...but multiple whiffs and penetration means Vereen gets 2 yards.
Oh and Marshall should have scored on that pass. Tripped up by Hoffa...
executing deeper passing concepts and got Eli killed. Now you want to go back to a system where we ran a lot of 5 and 7 step drops?!! This is why made the fucking change to begin with.
Agreed, but now we can't even run a 3 step drop without someone getting to Eli.
Well we, and the nation, saw how quickly Ziggy A. got to the QB. He just ran by, around and through Flowers. You can't run an offense when they can't pass block and run block. What the fuck can a coach do? Like I said the menu says chicken marsala, but Reese didn't buy chicken. So now Ben M. has to make chicken marsala without chicken. No wonder it's a shit show.
those deep 25 yard passes on 3rd and 1 and calling 50 passes in hurricane force winds. there is a reason buddy ryan went ape on him.
Buddy was a drunken sot and both Ditka and Gilbride showed remarkable restraint in not kicking his fat, drunken ass. Buddy went ape because his vaunted defense couldn't hold a lead.
But I do think his offense was better suited to Eli's skill set than is McAdoo's west coast scheme. Eli has been neutered in this offense.
I cant remember the last head coach or coordinator that I felt gave the Giants a true competitive advantage on the field. Possibly Sean Payton back in the 90s but at that time we didnt have near the talent needed to execute.
Ours in an organization run by mediocre intellect, all trying to protect their positions by hiring even less intellectual staff to mask their deficiencies.
We ran him out of town unfairly, he was the best. What a loss.
Agreed, but now we can't even run a 3 step drop without someone getting to Eli.
I get that you're frustrated - but seriously?
Yes but my guess is that Eli has that option to check out of a pass based on how many people are on the box. So basically the right call, but our OL is such trash that they can't even execute that.
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on 3rd and long last night. That was nothing if not Gilbridesque.
Yes but my guess is that Eli has that option to check out of a pass based on how many people are on the box. So basically the right call, but our OL is such trash that they can't even execute that.
He did it at the 11 yard line yesterday with Vereen. No one in the box but Jarrad Davis, he checks to a draw which should gain yards or even a touchdown...but multiple whiffs and penetration means Vereen gets 2 yards.
Oh and Marshall should have scored on that pass. Tripped up by Hoffa...
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executing deeper passing concepts and got Eli killed. Now you want to go back to a system where we ran a lot of 5 and 7 step drops?!! This is why made the fucking change to begin with.
Agreed, but now we can't even run a 3 step drop without someone getting to Eli.
Well we, and the nation, saw how quickly Ziggy A. got to the QB. He just ran by, around and through Flowers. You can't run an offense when they can't pass block and run block. What the fuck can a coach do? Like I said the menu says chicken marsala, but Reese didn't buy chicken. So now Ben M. has to make chicken marsala without chicken. No wonder it's a shit show.
Jerry is a coach and coordinator killer.
I cant remember the last head coach or coordinator that I felt gave the Giants a true competitive advantage on the field. Possibly Sean Payton back in the 90s but at that time we didnt have near the talent needed to execute.
Ours in an organization run by mediocre intellect, all trying to protect their positions by hiring even less intellectual staff to mask their deficiencies.
Another great Giant that was crapped all over on the way out.
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"You don't know what you got till it's gone."
Cinderella was from Philly!
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days of David Diehl circa 2013...
Another great Giant that was crapped all over on the way out.
Britt, but Diehl had serious currency with this fanbase. Guys like Flowers, Hart, Jerry, etc. don't.