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Does Solari become fall guy?

32_Razor : 9/19/2017 10:56 am
Lot of talk but I think one of the biggest culprits to ol failures is this guy. he has had a couple of years to mold this ol and it's worse than when it started. I think when head start rolling it starts here.
No....  
Reb8thVA : 9/19/2017 10:58 am : link
these problems predate him. Any attempt to make him the scapegoat will look weak and have no credibility.
RE: No....  
Dinger : 9/19/2017 11:07 am : link
In comment 13606336 Reb8thVA said:
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these problems predate him. Any attempt to make him the scapegoat will look weak and have no credibility.


You are correct except with FLowers...shouldn't he have been able to help flowers develop?
This is essentially the same OL  
Rflairr : 9/19/2017 11:12 am : link
They had in 15. When the offense was pretty good. The only difference is TC and Flaherty. The offense has regressed since then despite adding more talent. McAdoo just hasn't had any one to answer to, and it shows. It's coaching folks.
Probably yes Solari takes the hit BUT  
Ivan15 : 9/19/2017 11:19 am : link
This whole problem is Reese's fault. McAdoo-Solari have to work with what they are given.

The only thing this collection of linemen has is versatility. That's what Reese told us when they were drafted or signed. McAdoo has not explored that versatility. It should have been done in training camp but it isn't too late to salvage the season.

Pugh to LT and Jerry to RT or get a RT somewhere. Maybe Jones to center. Whoever is left standing battle for the guard spots.
Guy cant catch a break  
Deej : 9/19/2017 11:21 am : link
RE: Guy cant catch a break  
PatersonPlank : 9/19/2017 11:22 am : link
In comment 13606413 Deej said:
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Ha ha, this is always what I think of too when I hear his name.

Of course he gets a lot of blame. He could have changed out Flowers 10 times by now and didn't, along with other moves. No one is safe anymore IMO.
He's not blameless.  
Section331 : 9/19/2017 11:43 am : link
Everyone on the OL not named Pugh has seemed to regress. They can't pick up a stunt if the DL told them it was coming. Not saying he's the problem or even most of the problem, but he's at least part of it.
You guys want a coach to turn  
blueblood : 9/19/2017 11:44 am : link
this crap into gold.. The coach can TEACH all the correct technique in the word.. the PLAYER has to use it..
Whoever decided, whether collectively or individually, that  
That’s Gold, Jerry : 9/19/2017 11:56 am : link
this group could improve is at fault? Then to not even create competition for spots...well, that is on the GM. A coach can only coach the players he is given. The assumption that this group would improve was made by the GM and the offensive coaching staff. They were dead wrong...as bad a miscalculation as I have ever seen.

The status quo cannot be maintained...I have to imagine there are major meetings going on today deciding who to move around and what to do...if not working out some OL vets.

But the bottom line for acquisition of players belongs to the GM and his record is very bad. The clock is ticking on ole Jerry and unless this is fixed...I am now convinced this will be his last year as GM. The only way to fix this is to move people around and hope a miracle happens as it did with Baltimore in 2013 when they faced same issues.

Moreover, if nothing is done and the same group plays Sunday and we lose and the offense does not perform, I think the vets will revolt.
The fall guy is Reese  
RAIN : 9/19/2017 12:08 pm : link
Solari, while continuing the lack luster development of Offensive lineman, hasn't really earned a firing. If the staff goes, that is a different story.

Flowers has proven to be uncoachable  
SHO'NUFF : 9/19/2017 12:09 pm : link
Both Flaherty and Solari couldn't improve his technique.
Reese is the fall guy.  
Dave in Hoboken : 9/19/2017 12:11 pm : link
Picking a project with the 9th overall pick to protect your QB's blindside is a losing proposition.
What about Ross?  
NYRiese : 9/19/2017 12:33 pm : link
Doesn't he construct the rows of the tiers?
RE: Flowers has proven to be uncoachable  
gmenatlarge : 9/19/2017 12:37 pm : link
In comment 13606572 SHO'NUFF said:
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Both Flaherty and Solari couldn't improve his technique.


Carl Banks called him a "coach killer", surely someone needs to take the fall for this abomination.
You know who else people wanted to make the fall guy?  
Pego61 : 9/19/2017 12:38 pm : link
Steve Spagnuolo after 2015. That defense was wretched.

Then, you gave him better players in 2016 and miraculously they had a good defense.

It's not rocket science. Get better players, you get better performance. These coaches are all basically the same, especially position coaches. They aren't reinventing the wheel. But you can't always make lemonade with the lemons this team seems to have.
Flowers should be  
AnnapolisMike : 9/19/2017 12:39 pm : link
He needs to sit a game or two. try something else out.
RE: RE: No....  
BigBlueinChicago : 9/19/2017 12:58 pm : link
In comment 13606371 Dinger said:
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In comment 13606336 Reb8thVA said:


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these problems predate him. Any attempt to make him the scapegoat will look weak and have no credibility.



You are correct except with FLowers...shouldn't he have been able to help flowers develop?


No. This is specifically on Flowers.

He "clashed" with Flaherty and that led to his ouster and Solari coming in.

Two years into this, he still hasn't progressed. The same problems he had as a rookie are the same he is doing now. This leads me to believe the problem is more on the player than anyone else.

But instead, most fans will blame the coaches for not "developing" them.

Flowers is a sunk cost. He is just another in a nice little list growing of linemen in the last 5 years who were drafted high in the first round that have become busts.
They are all to blame  
Giants86 : 9/19/2017 1:25 pm : link
the coaches, players, scouts, Solari. I mean who scouted this Flowrers? What are they looking at. Its clear he's not a Left Tackle.
Solari. Whoa oh.  
jeff57 : 9/19/2017 1:27 pm : link
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What about Sullivan?  
jeff57 : 9/19/2017 1:28 pm : link
What does he do besides exchange photos with Quinn.
should be Reese.  
Enzo : 9/19/2017 1:29 pm : link
But it won't be.
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