Obviously ownership has a much deeper relationship with Eli for what he has done to this organization.
You have to wonder what Mara thinks about his sophomore head coach, in the middle of a stretch of offensive futility that goes back to last year, calling out the Franchise QB.
Yes, Eli absolutely has to shoulder some of the blame, and he does so in the media after every practice and every game - but the way he was called about by the head coach last night, in the tone that the coach used to call him out, pissed me off, and I can only imagine how ownership and even other players in the lockeroom felt
Poor game management all night long from Mac, from the poor use of timeouts at the end of the half to play selection on the 4th downs later in the game.
Mac may be loosing the team.
Poor game management all night long from Mac, from the poor use of timeouts at the end of the half to play selection on the 4th downs later in the game.
That's sloppy coaching. He's a veteran NFL coach. He needs to do better.
TGJerry, I'm liking your posts more and more every day.
Don't you mean "the Duke"?
And we know Mac was keen to go after a QB early in the draft. Reportedly he loved Mahomes.
Eli is not blameless in these struggles. But this coach is proving to be stubborn and lacking in self-awareness. A dangerous combination.
I'm very concerned about where this season will go if they don't pull out a win this Sunday
Bingo.
As for the OP, this reminds me of John Tortorella calling out Hank and Marian Gaborik during a playoff series. I think they believe there are certain guys who can take this criticism and certain guys who won't react well to it at all. That's the only reason I can think of for why these guys go out of their way to avoid criticizing Flowers in public.
Yup. My text to my buddy was: "Kick the field goal and get the point on the board, stupid!"
McAdoo is coming off as insecure with poor leadership traits, quickly deferring blame when responding off the cuff. James Kratch responded to a tweet this morning that he has NOT lost the locker room and the players love Ben, but there have been snippets that show Ben and Eli don't have a great relationship.
However... If Reese and McAdoo are on the same page as far as what kind of team they want to build, I can't help but wonder if they are starting to slowly employ a classic Public Relations burn of subtle disses to the QB to condition the public for a change that they'd like to make in some time. This wasn't the first time McAdoo has been critical of Eli.
But more realistically, I think he is putting it on Eli to
a.) fire him up more
b.) but mostly b/c he knows his o-line is fragile and doesn't want to dump on them, but knows the media wants blood from someone, and that someone needs to be himself and Eli... behind closed doors I'm sure that's how Ben is telling Eli that he will game the media and to not think much of it.
Ben wants Eli to be Rodgers. McAdoo needs to learn his teams strengths and his QB's strengths because that is what good coaches do.
Eli is a pocket passer and needs a good line and running game to compliment his play action passing. That is what brought 2 Lombardi's to NY. Mix in the West coast timing shit. Don't live and die by it.
Our O line is a mess. Reese and McAdoo need to fix that ASAP. They need a better game plan. That is on McAdoo.
At this point, fired McAdoo and let Eli call his own plays, and make Spags the head coach. We might get a win this year!
A head coach's job is not to get his players to love him. That was never Parcells' goal, and it was never Coughlin's goal. It doesn't seem to be Belichick's goal, either.
This team looked way too loose and relaxed during training camp for my liking. They accomplished a lot less last season than they think they did, but they were carrying themselves like they were destined for great things this season. Can you imagine Parcells around players acting like that?
he does seem awfully quick to throw shots at Eli (deserved or otherwise).
You were surprised the coach was thinking about going for a TD at the One Yard line because the offense failed before?
You are seriously soft Fatman!
If they succeed, that could give the offense confidence. If they didn't we will have them in poor field position.
This offense is much better than its showing. We need the offense to raise their level. That was the best place to TRY in scoring position. The Giants have had poor field position throughout these first 2 games.
As far as Eli he been playing soft too. He is making us sick. He wasn't even touched on a sack that was embarrassing!
McAdoo on Flowers: “It’s more than one player.”
McAdoo on Marshall: “It’s a long season.”
McAdoo on delay: “Sloppy quarterback play.”
Eli campaigned for him to get this job and pretty much as soon as he got it, even really before the offense died, he's been taking shots at him. The biggest story to come out of last night's game, with how headlines are reported, is this and the hot takes about if/when he'll ever bench him -- and there's no way he didn't see that coming.
Is it really Simo time already?
Gotta agree there, especially the way we play offense in those instances.
HC's call TOs all the time running down the sideline......if it was so important, take a TO.
Did he say he wanted him to actually snap it even though everyone wasn't on the same page in setting up?? WTF?
This was one thing I loved about TC, he often took the blame, has Mac ever took any?
I'm starting to get this impression.
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from his offensive line, he would do a better job of putting the blame on his own shoulders rather than pointing out Eli or the defense.
This was one thing I loved about TC, he often took the blame, has Mac ever took any?
The very first thing he said in the presser last night was that the outcome of the game was on him.
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some bad blood between McAdoo & Eli? McAdoo has gone out of his way on numerous occasions to knock Eli.
I'm starting to get this impression.
Honestly, I'm more concerned about that impression forming in the minds of fans and the press than I am with it actually being the case.
The truth is - you don't treat certain players the same as others. Vince Lombardi didn't. He rode some players like dogs - because they needed it to perform and he knew they could take it. He left others alone because he knew they didn't take criticism that well.
Eli is probably more psychologically bullet-proof than he's ever gotten credit for. And McAdoo was right, by the way - that delay of game penalty was the result of sloppy QB play.
Funny, while I was frustrated, mostly because this is a common occurence with the play clock with Eli, as the clock was ticking down, the last thing I wanted was for them to call time out like Gruden pleaded for. The delay didn't hurt them there.
Exceedingly silly. Now BBI is running around like a pack of Pat Leonards.
He obviously can't say that publicly because he would be setting the house on fire. As of now, he has to make do with having Eli as his QB. But if you got him in a room where he could give you his complete honesty, I believe he would voice this view.
Yeah, but that could have been merely to get the obligatory, insincere cliche out of the way.