I posted this in a separate thread but figure maybe it got lost in the shuffle.
Guys, it was unbearable to wade through all the trash in the game thread last night. Could we not have a function where posters who registered on that day have a waiting period before posting, perhaps just for gamedays?
It should be one of the best things about BBI to come on and compare notes during a game with other die-hards. Yeah I realize it gets nasty when the Giants play like garbage. But I'd rather suffer through that with real BBI'ers than a bunch of mealy-mouthed trolls and dupes who just registered that day for the purpose of ruining the experience for everyone else. I hate to say it, but if not addressed, it's going to get to where following beat writers on twitter in-game is preferable to checking in to BBI.
I know you always say to let you know if that kind of activity is going on...to bring it to your attention so you can deal with it. But this is more about adjusting the system/controls than singling out some user who will be deleted and then just come right back under another IP address as another troll.
What can be done about this?
I may get drilled for this post, but I've been on BBI for 15 years, so I can take it (i.e. Come at me bro!). Hopefully this is taken as constructive and will lead to some adjustments that will improve the gameday thread experience.
Gamethreads aren't worth it any more.
I personally would rather be watching the game than reading the game thread - when we get specific complaints marking the offending post link we do take a look at it.
jcn - it is not appropriate to post a thread about a poster -- that is why your thread was deleted. It is preferable to send us an email with the offending comment(s) link(s).
We are keeping our eye on that poster -- he does not post all that much -- but he was a little carried away with himself yesterday for sure. I do think he stopped posting right after you complained about him though. Even so he did not sign up yesterday.
Hey - we're not perfect -- far from it and we try to strike a balance as best we can. Sometimes, when we are too vigilant, it creates problems as well.
FYI - grizz299, Hereditary Emperor and BigBlueWhale (area junc dupe) were banned for trolling in the past 2 days -- so there is that
Hey Buddy
The problem is the best of us talk shit on these game threads. The best of posters get mad, vent etc... it's part of what the game threads are.
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It should be a privilege to post on the game thread. People who have credibility should be able to post this way everything written there is worth reading. To sift through "Eli sucks" "flowers is trash" doesn't do anything for the thread.
The problem is the best of us talk shit on these game threads. The best of posters get mad, vent etc... it's part of what the game threads are.
Guys - the thread I posted might not have been procedure, and I'm fine with you deleting it.
...however...
The poster I linked should have taken 30 seconds to verify as a dupe. It probably took you longer to delete my thread than it would have to fix the underlying problem.
Nobody is suggesting valid posters get blown away from venting, even if it sucks to read. Obvious trolls dumping on the game thread to fan flames, though, need to be eliminated.
The poster I linked should have taken 30 seconds to verify as a dupe. It probably took you longer to delete my thread than it would have to fix the underlying problem.
Nobody is suggesting valid posters get blown away from venting, even if it sucks to read. Obvious trolls dumping on the game thread to fan flames, though, need to be eliminated.
jcn -- we tried to verify that he was a dupe - but couldn't -- he had a fixed IP in Hawaii not tied to any other poster and a Hawaiian themed moniker
That looked like a gang-up and bullying to me, its obviously fair to critique coaching at any time, much less recently, and he was not wrong so far.
Or was that a different Grizz?
If, same guy, we need to self monitor and not loose our way here people.
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The poster I linked should have taken 30 seconds to verify as a dupe. It probably took you longer to delete my thread than it would have to fix the underlying problem.
Nobody is suggesting valid posters get blown away from venting, even if it sucks to read. Obvious trolls dumping on the game thread to fan flames, though, need to be eliminated.
jcn -- we tried to verify that he was a dupe - but couldn't -- he had a fixed IP in Hawaii not tied to any other poster and a Hawaiian themed moniker
Maybe he wasn't a dupe - but you thought that was upholding the TOS?
Again - if that's the view you guys have taken of trolls, then you've already lost and it's not close.
By the way, one of grizz or hereditary emperor is a simo. Most likely grizz. Sent me an email bordering on harassment.
All it proves to me is there are some strange dudes on a message board.
Maybe he wasn't a dupe - but you thought that was upholding the TOS?
Again - if that's the view you guys have taken of trolls, then you've already lost and it's not close.
jcn -- if he continues to post that way he will lose his account -- but maybe it was just a bad night - we are giving him the benefit of the doubt for now
[quote] You mean that elderly fellow who got the bum-rush last week after he called out the coach?
That looked like a gang-up and bullying to me, its obviously fair to critique coaching at any time, much less recently, and he was not wrong so far.
Or was that a different Grizz?
If, same guy, we need to self monitor and not loose our way here people. [/quote
turns out that grizz299 is a cowboys fan -- on several cowboys fan sites -- and he intentionally and consistently posts the names of our players inside out and backwards to annoy
Gamethreads aren't worth it any more.
!00% correct. It was a dupe of that idiot 32_Razor, this week it was the multiple posts using some childish name shit and last week it was over 12 posts about OBJ's hair.
I understand how hard it is to clean up the 15 other trolls who make a comment here or there but when you have such an obvious pattern week in and out that is a weak excuse
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There was one very obvious troll there - dead giveaway being the namecalling towards Eli and the lack of any other activity - I started a thread outside the game thread to point it out - that thread got deleted, that poster remained.
Gamethreads aren't worth it any more.
!00% correct. It was a dupe of that idiot 32_Razor, this week it was the multiple posts using some childish name shit and last week it was over 12 posts about OBJ's hair.
I understand how hard it is to clean up the 15 other trolls who make a comment here or there but when you have such an obvious pattern week in and out that is a weak excuse
And I called him out on a thread last weak and that also got deleted yet he stayed. So I have no idea who this dickhead has pics of but for two weeks in a row the same exact thing happening is no coincidence
Again - if that's the view you guys have taken of trolls, then you've already lost and it's not close.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree about this conclusion -- we've cleaned up a lot of trolls in the past six months -- but we try to implement a fair and balanced approach to this, and not leap to conclusions without some solid evidence
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Again - if that's the view you guys have taken of trolls, then you've already lost and it's not close.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree about this conclusion -- we've cleaned up a lot of trolls in the past six months -- but we try to implement a fair and balanced approach to this, and not leap to conclusions without some solid evidence
Which is exactly why I proposed adjusting the system/controls so that posters who have joined the day of the game (or say, within 48 hours) be put in read-only status. It would surely help a lot, and it shouldn't cause the mods to have to police quite as much. Unless there's not such a capability (which is why I also directed this to Gary), I can't imagine a reason not to put such a system in place. The alternative...users going elsewhere for banter with other fans...doesn't seem to me like what BBI needs.
What you could do is have the 30 day probation period AFTER they make their first post. And if there is no activity by them for 6 months they get auto deleted
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree about this conclusion -- we've cleaned up a lot of trolls in the past six months -- but we try to implement a fair and balanced approach to this, and not leap to conclusions without some solid evidence
Well, agree to disagree then. I can understand not wanting to ban borderline, but... it's basically the equivalent of electronic diarrhea being smeared on the game thread repeatedly.
mauiyankee : 9/18/2017 10:26 pm : link : reply
Ellie Mae is new to this game.
He'll figure out what all those electric signs mean.
said before
mauiyankee : 9/18/2017 10:50 pm : link : reply
say it again
If ellie mae's hips are not perpendicular to the line of scrimmage
he has little are strength
it floats.
The wobbler was his most accurate throws
mauiyankee : 9/18/2017 11:11 pm : link : reply
open hips
ain't got no zip
4th and 8
Throw for 6
I fought this battle years ago.
It's has all the drama of a political thread, but because it is during a game, the inmates get to run the asylum for a few hours.
It is a football site remember.
The tape is even erased after the crime so there is no evidence of the idiocy.
If you want to play in the asylum, do so.
If not, don't
It's really that simple.
BigBlueWhale posts HARD and demands to win.
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IMMINENT.
BigBlueWhale posts HARD and demands to win.
Don't be ridikulos.
Please stop calling people "dupes". If you have a serious concern about a poster, please message the mods. I have created a number of tools to ferret out bad actors. Nothing is perfect, but I think it all works pretty well.
Honestly, if you can't take people talking shit on the game thread, stay out of the game thread. Game threads on this site have always had some of that going on.
Personally - if the option is to let that guy slide while encouraging anyone who doesn't want to deal with it to just avoid the game thread altogether, it won't be too long before you've got nothing but that crap in the game thread.
Not a problem for me, Reddit's been doing a good job on game day as far as game threads are concerned.
Honestly, if you can't take people talking shit on the game thread, stay out of the game thread. Game threads on this site have always had some of that going on.
Hi Gary!
Maybe you guys should consider placing a moratorium on game threads, seeing as how all that vitriol seems to be spilling over into other threads.
Thanks!
I think a civil thread bringing to light the problem is more productive than folks jumping in and confronting bad actors and causing chaos as has been the case before.
Re: game threads, for a number of years I've understood it that you all prefer to keep the game conversation in that thread, so if it's where the team wants us, I vote it ok to after the fact point out the folks who seem to only be there to irritate. Dupe or just a garden variety asshole.
I personally really enjoy the threads and the contributions from folks following Twitter, listening to the radio broadcast etc. There are sound contributions from a number of folks.
I don't think anyone is asking you guys to monitor the thread, that sucks and isn't fair.
This person would have to be a pretty dedicated troll. Both posters have multiple IP addresses and there's no overlap.
Looking at the IP info, both of them post on BBI from an iPhone, but they use different cell phone providers.
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Unless of course 2 *huge* Trainspotting fans just happened to register for BBI during the same month.
This person would have to be a pretty dedicated troll. Both posters have multiple IP addresses and there's no overlap.
Looking at the IP info, both of them post on BBI from an iPhone, but they use different cell phone providers.
Dude....
Quick, what's CiP thinking right now?
This
Especially considering how shitty the 2nd one was
Avenge Berrylish!
She asked to banned. She knew and took a measured step that would result in banning. She even said it after she was banned that she knew what she posted would lead to it. I am as sick as many others over it - but it was her choice.
Constantly raising it as opposed to what other posters are allowed to get away with - is really an unfair assertion.
We will keep our eye on that -- thanks for pointing it out
also I agree with you about jcn -- his comments are taken seriously, investigated and he is respected. He has a point - and his comments are not lost on us.