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kash94 : 9/19/2017 1:31 pm
Sad day, but maybe some friendly FF discussion could help?

How'd everyone do this week? Got destroyed by Kareem Hunt and lost last week by 1.2 points so 0-2 now on the year.

I do have a high waiver ranking though so thoughts on who I should pick up? A few options below:

1- For defense, would you start Miami vs NYJ, New England vs Houston, or one of Indy and Cleveland vs one another? Thinking Miami but wanted to get other thoughts.

2- Cam is obviously off to a slow start but plays some easy teams + you'd figure he'll get better as the season goes along and he gets some rust off. Would you consider though dropping him for Wentz? Hate to say it but he looks good and Eagles are passing it a ton so far.

I won one and lost one  
superspynyg : 9/19/2017 1:38 pm : link
I am 2-0 in one league and 0-2 in the other. The 0-2 team is terrible. Wilson has been garbage (big points for qbs) OBJ waist for 2 weeks (ppr), Snead suspended for another week, Olson done for 6-8 weeks and DJax did not play week 1.

The 2-0 I have 3 good rbs which has helped me (standard league) in Hunt, Ajayi and Hyde, but my wrs Green and Baldwin are in bad offenses. My qb Mariotta is also terrible. Martavius Bryant may be on the up going forward.
I am 2-0  
VenteSette : 9/19/2017 1:44 pm : link
but I have been riding Kareem Hunt. Based on what I talked about here last week I swapped Hunter Henry for Fleener, but that only picked me up 1 point. Somebody here suggested that I use CJ Anderson as my flex. I had been planning to go with Terrelle Pryor because I thought he had a better chance at a big day. With Booker out I went with Anderson and picked up 24 points. :)
Pretty terrible week for me  
allstarjim : 9/19/2017 1:53 pm : link
I'm invested in some problematic players right now. Stefon Diggs with Keenum at QB is not great. I benched him where I could once the news came out that Bradford wouldn't play, but for teams that I was already an Allen Robinson owner, depth is an issue.

In one PPR league my receivers to start the season were T.Y. Hilton, Allen Robinson, Terrelle Pryor, Donte Moncrief, Sterling Shepard, and Corey Coleman. Unbelievably, and by sheer luck this week, I am 2-0 in that league. Hilton I can't trust until Luck comes back, and that may not be until week 6 or 7. Pryor so far has yet to get it going, I cut bait on Moncrief already, Corey Coleman is about to join Allen Robinson on IR, and Sterling Shepard now plays in perhaps the worst offense in the NFL.

How I'm 2-0 is a mystery.

In my keeper league I started with OBJ, Allen Robinson, Donte Moncrief, Kevin White, Devante Parker, and Stefon Diggs.

I need OBJ healthy, I'm high on Parker, but Kevin White and Allen Robinson are already done for the year, and Moncrief is off my team, and Diggs needs Bradford back.

It's been terrible luck for me at the WR position. And oh yeah, in that league my number 1 RB is Jordan Howard, my starting QB is Russell Wilson. I'm 1-1 in that league.

Things are not looking up.
whoops  
allstarjim : 9/19/2017 1:55 pm : link
actually I'm 0-2 in the keeper league. I need things to start to break right for me. A lot of talent on my team, just need the stars to shine.
Trade  
TyreeHelmet : 9/19/2017 1:57 pm : link
Would you trade Odell for Gronk and TY Hilton?
RE: Trade  
allstarjim : 9/19/2017 2:00 pm : link
In comment 13606916 TyreeHelmet said:
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Would you trade Odell for Gronk and TY Hilton?


Seriously? No. NO. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. If you considered this for one second, I hope you aren't playing fantasy football for money.
Don't need to be harsh  
allstarjim : 9/19/2017 2:02 pm : link
But that's as bad a trade offer as it gets. Odell just had his first game, he's getting healthier.

T.Y. has very little value until Luck comes back, and that may be another month. Gronk is dinged, not a huge deal they say but even if it isn't, given the last several years it is only a matter of time until the big guy breaks down again.
Anyone selling low  
pjcas18 : 9/19/2017 2:06 pm : link
on Jordan Howard?

I had someone offer me Doug Baldwin and Derek Carr for Howard and Luck.

Howard is an 8th round keeper for me, so next year would be a 4th round keeper so he is attractive to some (if he can regain his rookie form).

My other RB's are:
Freeman, Cohen, Duke Johsnon, and Joe Mixon, not great, but good enough in PPR.

I could also flip Carr, Ben is my QB.

RE: Anyone selling low  
YAJ2112 : 9/19/2017 2:25 pm : link
In comment 13606944 pjcas18 said:
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on Jordan Howard?

I had someone offer me Doug Baldwin and Derek Carr for Howard and Luck.

Howard is an 8th round keeper for me, so next year would be a 4th round keeper so he is attractive to some (if he can regain his rookie form).

My other RB's are:
Freeman, Cohen, Duke Johsnon, and Joe Mixon, not great, but good enough in PPR.

I could also flip Carr, Ben is my QB.


I would run/not walk to the accept button. Carr+Baldwin > Howard/Luck
I don't have a problem with that trade  
allstarjim : 9/19/2017 2:26 pm : link
You're still pretty good at RB. I think Howard turns it around but I think even better money that Baldwin picks it up and performs at a high level.
Would you trade Mixon and Moncrief  
beatrixkiddo : 9/19/2017 2:35 pm : link
for Buck Allen and Doug Martin PPR?
RE: Would you trade Mixon and Moncrief  
allstarjim : 9/19/2017 2:43 pm : link
In comment 13607006 beatrixkiddo said:
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for Buck Allen and Doug Martin PPR?


Standard scoring definitely not. PPR probably not. If you can afford to be patient on Mixon I feel like he will pay big dividends. With Cincinatti firing their Offensive Coordinator, those dividends could be right around the corner.

I do not trust Doug Martin as a fantasy asset. He will lay an egg on you in a heartbeat.
demarco murray in all 3 of my leagues hurting me  
nygiants16 : 9/19/2017 2:43 pm : link
1-1 in 2 of my leagues, 0-2 in the other, the league i am 0-2 in, ppr i have evans, thomas and evans, with cj anderson and murray, hopefully can turn it around
So I ended up ditching QB until very late because I was picking back  
Heisenberg : 9/19/2017 2:48 pm : link
to back and I missed all the QB tiers in runs between my picks. Left my draft feeling ok with Tyrod and Luck. But now Luck doesn't seem any closer to playing and Tyrod has Denver this week.

Trevor Semian on the waiver wire it is!
RE: So I ended up ditching QB until very late because I was picking back  
Sly Guy : 9/19/2017 2:50 pm : link
In comment 13607034 Heisenberg said:
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to back and I missed all the QB tiers in runs between my picks. Left my draft feeling ok with Tyrod and Luck. But now Luck doesn't seem any closer to playing and Tyrod has Denver this week.

Trevor Semian on the waiver wire it is!


Trevor Semian will be a Godsend to many people. I plan on picking him up even though I have Tom Brady on my team!
RE: RE: Would you trade Mixon and Moncrief  
Sly Guy : 9/19/2017 2:51 pm : link
In comment 13607018 allstarjim said:
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In comment 13607006 beatrixkiddo said:


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for Buck Allen and Doug Martin PPR?



Standard scoring definitely not. PPR probably not. If you can afford to be patient on Mixon I feel like he will pay big dividends. With Cincinatti firing their Offensive Coordinator, those dividends could be right around the corner.

I do not trust Doug Martin as a fantasy asset. He will lay an egg on you in a heartbeat.


Yeah, but he's getting Buck Allen back. That's the real prize in my opinion. The fact that he's getting Doug Martin back is just icing on top imo.
I'm 2-0 and just defeated the Hunt and Bell owner. AMA  
Sly Guy : 9/19/2017 3:01 pm : link
Okay, putting aside the cockiness, I do have a trade question to ask.

I picked up Jason Witten last week and he's looking to be a steal. I'm thinking of shoring up the rest of my lineup given we start 2 flex positions:

QB: Brady
RB: Shady, CJ Anderson, Rawls, Jazquizz Rodgers, Connor
WR: Brandon Cooks, Keenan Allen, Garcon, Corey Coleman (IRed)
TE: Ertz, Witten
Def: Pittsburgh, Eagles

Trying to make a trade with the Hunt owner:

QB: Cousins, Palmer
RB: Bell, Hunt, Derrick Henry, James White, Thompson
WR: Adams, Tate, Diggs, Pryor, Snead
TE: Charles Clay

He looks like the best trading partner. What would you guys think is the best return for me given how I have absolutely no WR depth whatsoever?
RE: I'm 2-0 and just defeated the Hunt and Bell owner. AMA  
YAJ2112 : 9/19/2017 3:05 pm : link
In comment 13607070 Sly Guy said:
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Okay, putting aside the cockiness, I do have a trade question to ask.

I picked up Jason Witten last week and he's looking to be a steal. I'm thinking of shoring up the rest of my lineup given we start 2 flex positions:

QB: Brady
RB: Shady, CJ Anderson, Rawls, Jazquizz Rodgers, Connor
WR: Brandon Cooks, Keenan Allen, Garcon, Corey Coleman (IRed)
TE: Ertz, Witten
Def: Pittsburgh, Eagles

Trying to make a trade with the Hunt owner:

QB: Cousins, Palmer
RB: Bell, Hunt, Derrick Henry, James White, Thompson
WR: Adams, Tate, Diggs, Pryor, Snead
TE: Charles Clay

He looks like the best trading partner. What would you guys think is the best return for me given how I have absolutely no WR depth whatsoever?


What are you looking to trade and what are you wanting back?
RE: I'm 2-0 and just defeated the Hunt and Bell owner. AMA  
allstarjim : 9/19/2017 3:07 pm : link
In comment 13607070 Sly Guy said:
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Okay, putting aside the cockiness, I do have a trade question to ask.

I picked up Jason Witten last week and he's looking to be a steal. I'm thinking of shoring up the rest of my lineup given we start 2 flex positions:

QB: Brady
RB: Shady, CJ Anderson, Rawls, Jazquizz Rodgers, Connor
WR: Brandon Cooks, Keenan Allen, Garcon, Corey Coleman (IRed)
TE: Ertz, Witten
Def: Pittsburgh, Eagles

Trying to make a trade with the Hunt owner:

QB: Cousins, Palmer
RB: Bell, Hunt, Derrick Henry, James White, Thompson
WR: Adams, Tate, Diggs, Pryor, Snead
TE: Charles Clay

He looks like the best trading partner. What would you guys think is the best return for me given how I have absolutely no WR depth whatsoever?


Where's the trade? Are you asking us to build the trade for you? Personally, I don't see one there. The Hunt owner would have to want to do a trade just to do it. If I were him I wouldn't see you as a natural trading partner.
RE: RE: I'm 2-0 and just defeated the Hunt and Bell owner. AMA  
Sly Guy : 9/19/2017 3:08 pm : link
In comment 13607078 YAJ2112 said:
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In comment 13607070 Sly Guy said:


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Okay, putting aside the cockiness, I do have a trade question to ask.

I picked up Jason Witten last week and he's looking to be a steal. I'm thinking of shoring up the rest of my lineup given we start 2 flex positions:

QB: Brady
RB: Shady, CJ Anderson, Rawls, Jazquizz Rodgers, Connor
WR: Brandon Cooks, Keenan Allen, Garcon, Corey Coleman (IRed)
TE: Ertz, Witten
Def: Pittsburgh, Eagles

Trying to make a trade with the Hunt owner:

QB: Cousins, Palmer
RB: Bell, Hunt, Derrick Henry, James White, Thompson
WR: Adams, Tate, Diggs, Pryor, Snead
TE: Charles Clay

He looks like the best trading partner. What would you guys think is the best return for me given how I have absolutely no WR depth whatsoever?



What are you looking to trade and what are you wanting back?


I was thinking about trading Witten/Ertz and Kamara (forgot to include) for his Henry and Diggs/Pryor. He probably wouldn't do it but I like to think it's a decent starting proposal.
RE: RE: RE: Would you trade Mixon and Moncrief  
allstarjim : 9/19/2017 3:08 pm : link
In comment 13607046 Sly Guy said:
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In comment 13607018 allstarjim said:


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In comment 13607006 beatrixkiddo said:


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for Buck Allen and Doug Martin PPR?



Standard scoring definitely not. PPR probably not. If you can afford to be patient on Mixon I feel like he will pay big dividends. With Cincinatti firing their Offensive Coordinator, those dividends could be right around the corner.

I do not trust Doug Martin as a fantasy asset. He will lay an egg on you in a heartbeat.



Yeah, but he's getting Buck Allen back. That's the real prize in my opinion. The fact that he's getting Doug Martin back is just icing on top imo.


Mixon's talent far exceeds Buck Allen. Allen is just getting the usage for right now. But once Mixon starts to get the snaps, which I think is coming this year, he'll be an anchor of a team.
RE: RE: RE: I'm 2-0 and just defeated the Hunt and Bell owner. AMA  
allstarjim : 9/19/2017 3:10 pm : link
In comment 13607088 Sly Guy said:
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In comment 13607078 YAJ2112 said:


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In comment 13607070 Sly Guy said:


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Okay, putting aside the cockiness, I do have a trade question to ask.

I picked up Jason Witten last week and he's looking to be a steal. I'm thinking of shoring up the rest of my lineup given we start 2 flex positions:

QB: Brady
RB: Shady, CJ Anderson, Rawls, Jazquizz Rodgers, Connor
WR: Brandon Cooks, Keenan Allen, Garcon, Corey Coleman (IRed)
TE: Ertz, Witten
Def: Pittsburgh, Eagles

Trying to make a trade with the Hunt owner:

QB: Cousins, Palmer
RB: Bell, Hunt, Derrick Henry, James White, Thompson
WR: Adams, Tate, Diggs, Pryor, Snead
TE: Charles Clay

He looks like the best trading partner. What would you guys think is the best return for me given how I have absolutely no WR depth whatsoever?



What are you looking to trade and what are you wanting back?



I was thinking about trading Witten/Ertz and Kamara (forgot to include) for his Henry and Diggs/Pryor. He probably wouldn't do it but I like to think it's a decent starting proposal.


I wouldn't give you Derrick Henry by himself for all of those guys. If he lacks patience with Diggs you might be able to send him Ertz for Diggs straight up. Not really seeing a huge boost to your team by doing that, though.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I'm 2-0 and just defeated the Hunt and Bell owner. AMA  
Sly Guy : 9/19/2017 3:13 pm : link
In comment 13607093 allstarjim said:
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I wouldn't give you Derrick Henry by himself for all of those guys. If he lacks patience with Diggs you might be able to send him Ertz for Diggs straight up. Not really seeing a huge boost to your team by doing that, though.


You're probably right. Sometimes I have a nervous tick when it comes to trading. Probably better just to sit back and let my team play out.
I'm 5-1 all told...  
Milton : 9/19/2017 3:17 pm : link
2-0 in two leagues and 1-1 in a third league. I'd be 6-0 if the guy I faced off against in week 1 didn't have Kareem Hunt starting for him that day.
kash94  
Milton : 9/19/2017 3:22 pm : link
I would pick up Wentz, but why do you need to drop Newton? Isn't there someone else on your roster more expendable?
What's your guys opinions on Crowell and Abdullah?  
jgambrosio : 9/19/2017 9:57 pm : link
I have them both on my bench and not sure if I should cut bait. I'm 2-0 right now with the following lineup, and very little depth:

QB - Jameis
RB - McCoy
RB - Fournette
WR - K. Allen
WR - M Bryant
TE - Kelce
Flex - Hogan
DEF - Jax
K- Rosas (dropping)

BEN - Crowell
BEN - Abdullah
BEN - Marshall (dropping)
BEN - Clay
BEN - D. Johnson (IR)
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