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O-Line situation is not all that difficult...

ArcadeSlumlord : 9/19/2017 2:19 pm
Pugh-Jones-Richburg-Jerry-Wheeler

This is what you do right now in practice as you hit the phones for a trade.

Any objections? No? OK great.
Not sure about Jones over Fluker...  
That’s Gold, Jerry : 9/19/2017 2:20 pm : link
I like Jones, good Canadian boy, but he seems to get overmatched sometimes. Fluker would be better for the run game. And I would like to see Flowers at RT where a lot of folks think he might excel.
Is Pugh an upgrade over Flowers at LT?  
mikeinbloomfield : 9/19/2017 2:22 pm : link
How do you know? Let's say he's better, great! Now you've got Jerry (who should not be on the field) and Wheeler (undrafted FA) next to each other on the right. They'll be able to call a run to that side, what, twice a game?

What they need to do is change the variables.
Agree with mikeinbloomfield  
Bold Ruler : Mod : 9/19/2017 2:24 pm : link
Jerry and Wheeler right next to each other?
Fluker  
HoustonGiant : 9/19/2017 2:25 pm : link
> Jerry
If you pull Flowers from LT,  
Keith : 9/19/2017 2:26 pm : link
I think he's gotta get a crack at the guard spot. He's a large man who doesn't work well in space, I think he can be an upgrade to Jerry there.
Exactly  
MotownGIANTS : 9/19/2017 2:27 pm : link
box him in and let him use his strength ... Strength
Yes: Pugh is an upgrade over Flowers.  
ArcadeSlumlord : 9/19/2017 2:27 pm : link
I havent played ball in 10 years and I am an upgrade. Pugh has played the position before.

Fluker is injured and until that is settled I would consider him at RG over Jerry but Jones plays next to Pugh.

Jones has way better pass pro than both Jerry and Fluker.

BR: Cant think about Fluker until the medical clears. But I am in favor of benching (deep benching) John Jerry.
Wheeler is not ready for major game action  
81_Great_Dane : 9/19/2017 2:29 pm : link
let alone ready to start. He was pretty bad in preseason against backups -- and the intensity of preseason isn't close to regular season.

I know everyone wants Flowers run out of town on a rail but they are probably going to have to try him at another position before they bench him altogether. They could switch him with Pugh, which is probably the least-disruptive move they could make, or they could try him on the right side.

Pugh - Jones - Richburg - Flowers - Hart

Or, if they're reluctant to move Flowers to the right side:

Pugh - Flowers - Richburg - Jones - Hart

Either could be better than the current lineup. Pugh is probably their best tackle, as well as their best guard.

We really don't know how Flowers would perform at guard, or on the right side.
Flowers has to sit.  
ArcadeSlumlord : 9/19/2017 2:43 pm : link
And practice first at a guard position. Wheeler is capable at RT. As is Pugh at LT. We need to allow Eli to survey the field.

Sidebar: OBJ appeared to be slipping gears. Still obviously hampered by injury.
FOR CHRIST'S SAKE, PUGH IS AN NFL GUARD NOT A TACKLE  
NYGmen58 : 9/19/2017 2:46 pm : link
The only logical way to change the offensive line and expect positive results would be as follows:

Wheeler (LT) Pugh (LG) Richburg (C) Jerry (RG) Flowers (RT)

Flowers projected as an RT/RG in the NFL and that's where he belongs.

You can make the case for Fluker to replace Jerry at RG but I wouldn't do so yet.

In any case, kick Flowers over to the right side, and keep Brett Jones and Bobby Hart off the field at all costs (they are AWFUL).

Wheeler will struggle at LT but not as badly as Flowers and also possesses more upside.
How would any fan know?  
oldutican : 9/19/2017 2:46 pm : link
It kills me when folks make these suggestions at a position that is so hard to judge, especially with virtually no evidence any backup would actually be better.
Not that I disagree  
ryanmkeane : 9/19/2017 3:16 pm : link
but..why does everyone think Wheeler is ready to play RT? He was an undrafted free agent and looked OK in preseason...wouldn't he be playing for Hart last night if he was ready?
Jones was overwhelmed last night  
Slade : 9/19/2017 3:23 pm : link
as well..
Power Running  
Rjanyg : 9/19/2017 3:29 pm : link
FLuker and Flowers are better run blockers thank pass blockers but should be blocking in a power or iso style, not draw play out of shot gun. I think Flowers at RT and Fluker at RG would be a place to run behind. Pugh is probably better at LG than LT but the other option at LT is Wheeler and I don't know if he could be any worse than Flowers. So here are my 2 suggestions for revamping the O Line.

Pugh, Jones, Richburg, Fluker, Flowers

or

Wheeler, Pugh, Richburg, Fluker, Flowers

Jerry is a bench player. I do not want him on the field unless we have no other option.
Can we transplant....  
Mike From Brielle : 9/19/2017 3:31 pm : link
Jones head onto Flucker's body?
RE: FOR CHRIST'S SAKE, PUGH IS AN NFL GUARD NOT A TACKLE  
clatterbuck : 9/19/2017 3:33 pm : link
In comment 13607025 NYGmen58 said:
Quote:
The only logical way to change the offensive line and expect positive results would be as follows:

Wheeler (LT) Pugh (LG) Richburg (C) Jerry (RG) Flowers (RT)

Flowers projected as an RT/RG in the NFL and that's where he belongs.

Just mho but I think Wheeler would be a disaster at left tackle. He played right side all summer, he's not strong enough, he's an undrafted free agent, maybe with some promise down the line, but you want to throw him in against the Iggles front?

You can make the case for Fluker to replace Jerry at RG but I wouldn't do so yet.

In any case, kick Flowers over to the right side, and keep Brett Jones and Bobby Hart off the field at all costs (they are AWFUL).

Wheeler will struggle at LT but not as badly as Flowers and also possesses more upside.
Gasbags  
fansince71 : 9/19/2017 4:21 pm : link
How would any fan know?
oldutican : 2:46 pm : link : reply
It kills me when folks make these suggestions at a position that is so hard to judge, especially with virtually no evidence any backup would actually be better.

Beause they are LCD/ESPN fans, thats why.
Jones got  
oldog : 9/19/2017 4:55 pm : link
called on what the commentators called a miscall cheap penalty. What else do you offer in support of conclusion that he did not play well?
RE: FOR CHRIST'S SAKE, PUGH IS AN NFL GUARD NOT A TACKLE  
81_Great_Dane : 9/19/2017 6:15 pm : link
In comment 13607025 NYGmen58 said:
Quote:
.... Wheeler will struggle at LT but not as badly as Flowers and also possesses more upside.

Wheeler's a developmental project. He's not ready for significant game action. He struggled as badly or worse than Flowers in preseason, against inferior competition.

Be careful what you wish for, you might get it.
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