He is a flawed head coach at best, a woeful playcaller, and the offensive scheme he runs is a broken system that is set up for failure.
Lining up in shotgun most of the time with no deception to what they are doing. A straight dive for 1.5 yards and shallow crossing routes for a few more yards to set up "manageable 3rd downs" (which are seldom converted). Sure, Eli's completion percentage has improved under McAdoo (which seems to be the only thing McAdoo cares about or the broken system he runs is good for) but yards and scoring are at an all-time low.
Don't kid yourself that these are "new" problems either. McAdoo's offense has been a failure since he was hired as the team's offensive coordinator. Don't be fooled by aberrations from 2014 and 2015 (i.e. the thrashing of the lowly Rams, "shoot-out" in New Orleans) or the many games last year where the game was won/saved by an incredible individual effort by Beckham. The problems have been there since the moment McAdoo was brought on board.
A dink and dunk offense that takes no chances and is stubborn to a fault (i.e. running dive plays for no yardage in situations when you absolutely have to throw the ball simply because you want to "stay committed to the running game") cannot and will not have success in the National Football League. In the NFL today, you need to be able to score more than 20 points and it takes an act of God for the Giants offense under McAdoo to do so.
Now throw in the fact that the Giants have the worst offensive line in pro football, and it becomes a self-fulling prophecy.
What you see, unfortunately, is what you get.
I have no idea what changed when he became head coach, but the guy is straight out of the Col. Henry Blake cliché college.
I have no idea what changed when he became head coach, but the guy is straight out of the Col. Henry Blake cliché college.
1.) It didn't though. They scored points because their defense was awful and they were playing from behind much of the time
2.) They had a real head coach
Even currently in Green Bay, they are much better when they are running the ball effectively.
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was OC, the offense clicked just fine.
I have no idea what changed when he became head coach, but the guy is straight out of the Col. Henry Blake cliché college.
1.) It didn't though. They scored points because their defense was awful and they were playing from behind much of the time
2.) They had a real head coach
Been screaming for O-line help for nearly 5 years I would be pissed if I was Eli for wasting too many seasons in his prime . Hate the damn offense .
1.) It didn't though. They scored points because their defense was awful and they were playing from behind much of the time
we're playing from behind now
Get him a solid Oline, and if the offense doesn't work they can send him packing.
Right now they can't even function as an offense on basic running plays (see every carry Perkins had last night), protect their QB for more that 2.5 seconds, pick up any kind of twist or stunt, nor run effective screen passes.
So, exactly how can you judge the offensive play calling and gameplan otherwise?
I agree that Mac has to make some immediate lineup changes as the season is about to slip away and running the same Oline out there is the wrong message about earning playing time.....but if there is universal agreement that the talent on the team is just not there with the Oline, how can you make a good decision on the offensive scheme?
Just once I'd like to see them start a game in the 2 minute, hurry up offense and see if they can set the tone for the game. Seems like running up the gut for little or no gain on first down has been tried several times w/o success.
I have no idea what changed when he became head coach, but the guy is straight out of the Col. Henry Blake cliché college.
Throwing the ball to OBJ is not an offensive scheme. The offense took off in year one when Beckham hit he field. This guy is a sub standard X and O guy. Tom Caughkinnhas forgotten more about football than this idiot will
Ever know. He's a clown
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was OC, the offense clicked just fine.
I have no idea what changed when he became head coach, but the guy is straight out of the Col. Henry Blake cliché college.
Throwing the ball to OBJ is not an offensive scheme. The offense took off in year one when Beckham hit he field. This guy is a sub standard X and O guy. Tom Caughkinnhas forgotten more about football than this idiot will
Ever know. He's a clown
How do you know this LM? Who should he have designed passes to over the course of the past 4 years....Cruz?...Donnell? ....Tye?
You'll notice that there are very few ex-Giants' skill players currently playing for other NFL teams...because they weren't any good (Cruz, post-injury of course).
He's got a crucial few weeks to prove himself as a leader, but without a functional Oline there is no reasonable way to judge this offense.
I think a lesson that McAdoo has to learn is how to hire someone who he completely trusts to run his offense and turn it over to him. Does he want to be a HC or an OC? Right now, he's trying to do both and views his OC as a "3rd wheel" who is best cut out of the communication lines during the game. That's actually a quote of his explaining his play calling last week in case you missed it.
He can and will learn from this adversity. He already is starting to acknowledge as much. Look at his quote today when asked about the subject of improving the offense:
We've got to be patient with our young head coach. Them's the breaks. I think he's starting to learn a valuable lesson that might help him become a much better HC soon.
I think a lesson that McAdoo has to learn is how to hire someone who he completely trusts to run his offense and turn it over to him. Does he want to be a HC or an OC? Right now, he's trying to do both and views his OC as a "3rd wheel" who is best cut out of the communication lines during the game. That's actually a quote of his explaining his play calling last week in case you missed it.
He can and will learn from this adversity. He already is starting to acknowledge as much. Look at his quote today when asked about the subject of improving the offense:
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A: Yeah, we can’t keep doing the same thing over and over again. That’s insanity. It’s not working. So, we are going to look to make some changes this week, like we did last week. Maybe it will be a little more drastic this week to use your word. If that means me giving up play calling duties, that’s something we will look at, that we’ll talk about.
We've got to be patient with our young head coach. Them's the breaks. I think he's starting to learn a valuable lesson that might help him become a much better HC soon.
I like your optimism. I think it's a fair point of view that I'm partial too.
There are a lot of things that Mac has done that have improved the team already: clock/game management is already a lot better than it was under Coughlin, injuries are way down, and the conditioning staff and facilities have been modernized. It just sucks that the offense seems to have lost out due to his more broad responsibilities.
But, I agree, we have to give him more than two weeks before saying he can't adapt his offense. One thing you can't say is that Mac hasn't shown the ability to change.
Another fair point. Not to mention: Marshall was brought in on a two year deal with the expectation that it may take two years to reach a super bowl. Clearly, he's not integrated completely into the offense by week 2, so it stands to reason that it may just take some more time before we're firing on all cylinders.
Speaking of Gilbride, I remember him also dealing with a shit OL in his last few years and he was constantly trying to call/develop plays that would help the OL... or move the ball despite their issues
LOL Coughlin did not make that decision. Everyone knows Mara panicked and pushed out Gilbride (horrific mistake) and some of the members of his staff and forced Coughlin to appoint a new OC from a different school of thought. Mara was enamored with the West Coast offense and Coughlin reluctantly selected McAdoo.
Not hard to read between the lines on what happened there.