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Francessa just said Giants should trade for joe staley

32_Razor : 9/19/2017 3:36 pm
He said 49ers would be excellent team to trade with as they are rebuilding and Giants could offer a high draft pick to get staley because they also have a good backup,
Wrong  
Sy'56 : 9/19/2017 3:39 pm : link
Put Pugh at LT.
That's the whisper...  
Slade : 9/19/2017 3:45 pm : link
And if it happens, Mike will tell you that he made it happen... Classic Pope!
RE: Wrong  
ZGiants98 : 9/19/2017 3:46 pm : link
In comment 13607209 Sy'56 said:
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Put Pugh at LT.


I know you like Pugh at LT and Hart at RG. Help me fill out the rest. Do you have Flowers at RT, Jones at LG, Richburgh at C?
Putting aside the $11m or so that he'd be due  
jcn56 : 9/19/2017 3:47 pm : link
or the fact that he almost missed this week due to tendinitis in his knee - does it matter that the 49ers aren't interested in trading him? Or that the prior FO staff that was wanted a first round pick?

Plus - if we're able to just trade whatever we want for whomever we want regardless of the other team's demands, can we get Khalil Mack instead?
Pugh  
Fish : 9/19/2017 3:47 pm : link
sucks. They all do.
Z Giants...I have the same question ...who fills out the rest  
Blue21 : 9/19/2017 3:49 pm : link
of the Line. Pugh at LT is probably a good idea... but who plays the rest of the positions? I'm not being sarcastic just curious.
How old  
EJJ : 9/19/2017 3:50 pm : link
Is Staly?
Sy  
Andy in Boston : 9/19/2017 3:51 pm : link
do you think Flowers could be a good NFL guard?
Would probably surprise most here  
Beezer : 9/19/2017 3:51 pm : link
to see what adding just ONE Pro Bowler (Staley's a 5x Pro Bowler) to the line might do.
I have a sinking feeling that  
phil in arizona : 9/19/2017 3:52 pm : link
Eli is going to end up in Jacksonville sooner or later.
Staley is 33.  
Beezer : 9/19/2017 3:52 pm : link
Birthday was in August.
RE: Would probably surprise most here  
ZGiants98 : 9/19/2017 3:52 pm : link
In comment 13607261 Beezer said:
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to see what adding just ONE Pro Bowler (Staley's a 5x Pro Bowler) to the line might do.


Yeah. The trickle down effect is likely huge.
Eli's not going anywhere.  
Beezer : 9/19/2017 3:52 pm : link
Stop it.
RE: Putting aside the $11m or so that he'd be due  
TyreeHelmet : 9/19/2017 3:52 pm : link
In comment 13607241 jcn56 said:
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or the fact that he almost missed this week due to tendinitis in his knee - does it matter that the 49ers aren't interested in trading him? Or that the prior FO staff that was wanted a first round pick?

Plus - if we're able to just trade whatever we want for whomever we want regardless of the other team's demands, can we get Khalil Mack instead?


But wouldn't this be a good move for the Niners? Makes a lot of sense for them.
I have the same question about Flowers.  
ZGiants98 : 9/19/2017 3:53 pm : link
If he sucks at tackle, I doubt he'll be any better on the right side. Can he be a mauling type guard?
I'm not saying it will or would happen.  
Beezer : 9/19/2017 3:54 pm : link
Not even certain it's the right thing. I'd probably like it for the right deal.

But putting Staley in there, giving you immediate stability ... might be a big deal.
Season is likely toast  
The_Boss : 9/19/2017 3:55 pm : link
Keep all assets. Hope we totally bomb and finish with 4 or less wins, which is not out of the realm of possibility. Hopefully the idiot GM is finally canned and we move forward. Remember, this is the 6th youngest roster in football and it is hardly devoid of talent. Get into position to get the next franchise QB and move on.
I like....  
ZGiants98 : 9/19/2017 4:00 pm : link
Staley-Flowers-Richburgh-Hart-Pugh

Looks beefy as hell.
RE: Wrong  
Emil : 9/19/2017 4:02 pm : link
In comment 13607209 Sy'56 said:
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Put Pugh at LT.


Thank you Sy! Now I know I am not crazy.

The answer is staring them in the face.
Why not instead go after the pretty good backup?  
montanagiant : 9/19/2017 4:05 pm : link
Cheaper, younger, and no tendinitis
Too late  
jeff57 : 9/19/2017 4:07 pm : link
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Without Staley, the Niners won't be able to field a QB  
jeff57 : 9/19/2017 4:09 pm : link
They'll all be on IR.
RE: I have a sinking feeling that  
Tom from LI : 9/19/2017 4:09 pm : link
In comment 13607265 phil in arizona said:
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Eli is going to end up in Jacksonville sooner or later.


I thought that this morning. They have the cap space.
RE: I have a sinking feeling that  
jeff57 : 9/19/2017 4:10 pm : link
In comment 13607265 phil in arizona said:
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Eli is going to end up in Jacksonville sooner or later.


Could be.
RE: Sy  
gidiefor : Mod : 9/19/2017 4:17 pm : link
In comment 13607260 Andy in Boston said:
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do you think Flowers could be a good NFL guard?


Andy - Sy doesn't think Flowers has the "want to" to play well in the NFL
If you can trade for even a halfway competent tackle...  
ny_thick_n_thin : 9/19/2017 4:18 pm : link
it would make a huge difference
Flowers is not a LT  
DennyInDenville : 9/19/2017 4:26 pm : link
Time to put anybody else there ..

Discard Flowers or relegate him to the bench or the right side ..

He's sad out there. Just sad.

Yes give me Joe Staley please. But I'm not trading a 1 or a 2 after this bad start.. no way.
RE: I like....  
nyjuggernaut2 : 9/19/2017 4:48 pm : link
In comment 13607293 ZGiants98 said:
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Staley-Flowers-Richburgh-Hart-Pugh

Looks beefy as hell.


I'd prefer Staley-Jones-Richburg-Flowers-Pugh
Didn't Connor barwin  
jamesmichaelworm : 9/19/2017 4:52 pm : link
Kill Pugh at tackle?
RE: I have a sinking feeling that  
jvm52106 : 9/19/2017 4:54 pm : link
In comment 13607265 phil in arizona said:
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Eli is going to end up in Jacksonville sooner or later.


I was wondering the same thing. I am not saying this year but clearly Mac does not like Eli for this offense. You can see the divide.
RE: Didn't Connor barwin  
jvm52106 : 9/19/2017 4:56 pm : link
In comment 13607427 jamesmichaelworm said:
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Kill Pugh at tackle?


Diehl was scorched once too. He was moved to RT, Guard and ended up playing LT at pretty good level. Pugh is a solid player, not great. We need solid. We can't have a mountain of man with a .10 head and no fundamentals to fall back on.
at 0-2....  
BillKo : 9/19/2017 5:00 pm : link
no way I give up a premium pick for an aging tackle.

Also, I agree with Pugh to LT but a thread above this one already said Flowers is staying put.

With a potential 5 win season, it's time to take a deep breath and re-evaluate what direction we need to go in.

They better do somethkng  
blueblood'11 : 9/19/2017 6:54 pm : link
And fast. If anyone thinks Eli took a beating last night wait till the revved up Eagles take them on next week. If the Giants win this game I will truly be shocked.
RE: I have a sinking feeling that  
EricJ : 9/19/2017 7:34 pm : link
In comment 13607265 phil in arizona said:
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Eli is going to end up in Jacksonville sooner or later.


Why is it a "sinking feeling"? You are afraid our offense would go from worst in the league to worst in the league without him? You need to look at this players without an emotional attachment... like a piece of real estate.

At least we would have $20 million to spend on the offensive line.
Try to grade/rate each player on our OL....  
EricJ : 9/19/2017 7:41 pm : link
Pugh and Richburg may grade out somewhere around 17-20th in the league at their respective positions. The other three would challenge for worst in the league (31-32).

If you assigned a number value to each of them based upon their ranking, we would most likely have the highest number value, thus worst ranked OL in the league.

Pro Football Focus ranked our OL #28 back in June and in their explanation they pointed to the left side of the line as the problem. I guess they were watching the film with a patch over their right eye.
unfortunately it is too late for all of this.  
mdc1 : 9/19/2017 8:56 pm : link
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