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More likely trade scenario than OL?

SLIM_ : 9/20/2017 6:58 am
Not ready to throw the season away yet but I think if we get to 2-4 with the schedule we have, we may have to consider this ... trade DRC for a draft pick. I think there is logic to it.

- He's an aging veteran with a high contract but really not that high for a high performing starting corner.
- He could be the piece that puts a contending team over the top.
- With our holes on the OL, I'm not sure he is a luxury that we can afford.
- We have a starting nickel caliber cornerback in Cockrell. Whether Apple steps up and lives up to his draft slotting remains to be seen.

Again, I hope this season doesn't come down to this but say we can get a #3 for him. We go into the draft with a fairly high slot for our picks and we have an extra #3 and #4 hopefully for Hankins.

We go OL with 1 of the top 2 picks bring in a free agent or 2 and then we can still load up with another 2 more during rounds 3 and 4 without dedicating our whole draft to OL. I envision at most 2 starters coming back. Really hope Wheeler or Bisnowaty can challenge for a spot but I have my doubts that Jones is an NFL player and Fluker if he can't start this year also needs to go.
Too early to think about this  
joeinpa : 9/20/2017 7:01 am : link
This team needs to fix the offense now, this week.
DRC isn't fetching a 3rd  
Diver_Down : 9/20/2017 7:06 am : link
and his contract is a bargain. He makes $7 MM this year and $6.5 MM next year. Please list all the starting CBs of his caliber that can be signed for that money.
Coaching staff and teammates  
Sy'56 : 9/20/2017 7:39 am : link
LOVE him. Not happening, no shot.
Here's a little game we have to play when we suggest trades  
jcn56 : 9/20/2017 7:47 am : link
Whether it's the Giants or someone else. It's called 'Yeah, but what do I get?'

Round 1 - we trade away a defensive player who's integral to the defense, on the field most downs, isn't paid very much, and is liked in the locker room.

Random team - 'we'd like you to trade us DRC'

'Yeah, but what do I get?'

'I'll give you a 3rd round pick'

If I take that trade, I've taken a guy off the team who's on the field most defensive downs, who is still playing at a high level, who is reasonably paid - in exchange for cap space in the $6-7M range that I don't need right now, and the rights to draft a player after the season, who would be a rookie next season, coming from a round that has what, a 25-30% success rate? And it leaves me with a hole that I can't really address with existing personnel, since we're lucky to be 4 CBs deep and we certainly don't have a 5th.

Why would *ANYONE* do this?

Why would someone do this and hand you Staley or Thomas? Neither of those teams has a budding young OLT being shielded by the existence of the older veteran. Even if they're not competing, they don't want their QBs dead, not to mention at least have to feign putting out a competitive product since they need to sell tickets.

This is the NFL - there's a handful of player trades on a yearly basis, and they're usually not very good. Stop dreaming, the solution isn't coming via that route.
I don't see the Giants making any trades  
Matt in SGS : 9/20/2017 7:55 am : link
they are going to hold on to their draft picks. They need to evaluate what is going to go on with this season first. Why trade for Joe Staley and give up a first or 2nd round pick if the wheels are going to come off and this team goes 6-10. This draft upcoming is compared to the 1983 QB crop. As I've said on other posts, the Giants should be evaluating the hell out of Webb in the classroom and in practice and into the offseason program. If they decide he's not the guy, or they think they have a better prospect available in the draft, you will want that first round pick to get a QB.

So trading draft picks, unless the Giants front office and coaches really believe they are that one player away to turn this around this year, is out.

Trading a DRC or other assets, I don't see it either because the Giants won't look to tank this season. The back half of their schedule is heavy with home games, and all against the NFC East. They will be in position to make up ground even with this slow start. And this is a team that celebrates championships with a 10-6 and 9-7 record. I don't see anyone in this division winning more than 10 games this year. There won't be a Dallas run away again. So Giants just need to be in striking distance of 9 or 10 wins and they could still win this division.

My bet is the Giants leave this alone and let the season play out and go after a QB in the first round next year, and focus the remainder of the draft and free agency on OL.
What could we get for Beckham?  
Giant John : 9/20/2017 8:16 am : link
Just asking...
Matt  
JonC : 9/20/2017 8:32 am : link
on target.
The next qb to go down this week  
NikkiMac : 9/20/2017 8:33 am : link
Then I would look to trade Geno Smith and elevate Webb that’s what I would do .........Why keep Geno?
a draft pick for Geno  
JonC : 9/20/2017 8:46 am : link
winds up being a late throwaway pick, or more likely no market for him. Another dream.
It  
AcidTest : 9/20/2017 9:04 am : link
will be almost impossible to determine after this year whether Webb will succeed Eli. Absent catastrophic injuries at the position, he won't even get on the field. And even if he did and performed poorly, that would be excused by the circumstances requiring him to play, as well as the fact that he is a rookie coming from a spread offense.

Everyone also knows he works hard in the classroom, so his work ethic is not questioned. He also has no character issues.

Webb is an unknown. That won't change by the end of the year in all likelihood.
Did you see DRC  
Doomster : 9/20/2017 9:41 am : link
grab his knee and limp?

Don't be surprised if he doesn't play this week, or misses some time the rest of the season.....

I don't think you would get much for him, but then you have to replace him......Did you see Cockrell on that run play? If he is out there, I would be throwing in his direction....

Should not have to throw away whole  
32_Razor : 9/20/2017 12:28 pm : link
Season because we have no left tackle
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