...shit being dished out on this site for the second year coach!?!
Whatever his "failings", they don't come close to the 4+ year fuck-up that has been brewing between our offensive line and Eli Manning.
THAT problem rests squarely on Jerry Reese. His ass should be on the line for a chronic problem he never fixed. He tried... he failed.
Badly.
Why not run the TWO TE sets that this team has the personnel to employ when the star WR is hurt and MArshall is ineffective and possibly still banged up himself?
No one can spin this failure to me. It's an awful oversight on McAdoo's part. He's a mess right now. A total mess.
Again, I do believe the H****ey comparisons are valid until seen otherwise.
Nope, let's run end around with Shepard.
By the way the biggest play this offense has made in two weeks was made by the #3 TE. He played ONE snap on monday. One.
It never happens. The coaching is abysmal.
One thing has changed. McAdoo is now the HC. It's his baby now.
This is one of those things that is so simple to see that even an ardent supporter and somewhat pollyanna fan like myself can't ignore the fact that McAdoo has been absolutely terrible here through the first 2 weeks of the season. And when you factor in last year's offensive output, the results are in. There is no mystery. The guy has lost this offense.
Maybe he turns it around. I won't close the book on him but McAdoo needs to take a long hard look at himself and open up that mind of his. He's blowing it.
Britt may have been right. I didn't want to admit it...and I was happy with the 11 wins last year...but this is alarming.
Don't Win Championship = Coach needs to be fired
Yeah you left out the little nugget that this offense is on a pace that would shatter futility records.
Please, trust me, nobody wants to be wrong on this more than me. It sickens me watching this offense, and especially wasting Eli's final (and what should be some of his prime) years.
2) I am starting to see a pattern where he does seem like he is throwing ELI under the bus. Not completely but subtly jabs here and there that seem like he has an issue with Eli. Go back to a year ago where he said Eli has to be able to throw from a dirty pocket (meaning guys around him, near his feet etc.) and not all pass plays can be blocked out perfectly. That to me says Eli isn't the kind of QB he likes in his system (he is no Aaron Rodgers, no Wilson, No Winston, Newton etc) as he has very limited mobility. I feel like the stubborn comments about the Oline not as bad as people say is more a comment about ELI not being able to help them by avoiding the rush and throwing on the run. It is almost like he is letting off frustration at being saddled with a QB who he doesn't see in his offense and especially long term.
I truly believe we are seeing the end of ELI in NY or the end of McAdoo as coach. I don't see both being here next year!
I agree. That is where the train seems to be heading.
You can't run block and pass block. That's game, set, match. You can't scheme for that and actually win games.
But isn't it his responsibility to tell the GM what he needs? If he told Reese he was ok with the cast of characters assembled isn't he equally complicit? I have no sympathy for either of them.
I think there's some overreaction - about Reese, McAdoo, and even Eli - based off of two games against two good teams.
That tells me that either McAdoo has fallen out of love with Ellison faster than shit through a goose, or has forgotten he has an embarrassment of riches at the TE position, or forgotten how bad this offense looks in 11 personnel, or never really wanted Ellison in the first place.
Any of the possible scenarios are scary to me.
Again, I do believe the H****ey comparisons are valid until seen otherwise.
I do not know about comparisons to past coaches. But,I see it the same as you. He took a team he did not build that was infused with great talent on the side of the ball he has almost nothing to do with. Last year there was success, but the offense was garbage. Now, the offense is league worst through two games. This in an NFL that favors offense.
The jury is still way out on McAdoo. If nothing changes this week and the Giants get obliterated I would say the jury is back, and with a bad verdict.
Our first Superbowl team was absolutely built on that philosophy.
The first thing Coughlin said in his introductory press conference was getting back to "Giants Football" and "controlling the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball".
Within his first year of being here we added Snee, O'hara, and McKenzie, and already had Diehl and Suebert, and then Jacobs and Bradshaw. We have a major power running game and inflicted our will on other teams from the LOS.
We had two RB's go for 1000 yards each in 2008.
And he's building the same thing in JAX right now.
He did it there the first time too.
2nd pick in the 1995 NFL Draft (first draft pick ever for the Jax franchise, Tom Coughlin the GM and Head Coach): Tony Bosselli.
You know, McAdoo has to be at least partially responsible for the personnel, both who we sign/draft and more importantly who makes the team and who plays. The OK was a disaster all summer, yet we start the same 5. We had some success in Week 1 with a TH or TE in the backfield and reverted back to 11 personnel most of the game on Monday. These are coaching decisions.
2) I am starting to see a pattern where he does seem like he is throwing ELI under the bus. Not completely but subtly jabs here and there that seem like he has an issue with Eli. Go back to a year ago where he said Eli has to be able to throw from a dirty pocket (meaning guys around him, near his feet etc.) and not all pass plays can be blocked out perfectly. That to me says Eli isn't the kind of QB he likes in his system (he is no Aaron Rodgers, no Wilson, No Winston, Newton etc) as he has very limited mobility. I feel like the stubborn comments about the Oline not as bad as people say is more a comment about ELI not being able to help them by avoiding the rush and throwing on the run. It is almost like he is letting off frustration at being saddled with a QB who he doesn't see in his offense and especially long term.
I truly believe we are seeing the end of ELI in NY or the end of McAdoo as coach. I don't see both being here next year!
His demeanor is annoying in pressers because he speaks a lot but says absolutely nothing except tired cliches and he comes off as completely obtuse.
We'd like to think that he does this because he doesn't want to give anything away but given that nothing has seemed to change over several weeks with the offense, it seems more likely that he IS completely obtuse.