He said that while they would never indicate their concern in regard to Eli publicly, behind the scenes they believe he is not helping them to overcome some of their deficiencies.
The new NFL demands athleticism from the QB position. Just about all offenses now ask him to move around the pocket, buy time, and pick up yards with his feet on occasion. Eli doesn't do these things well and never has. He does other things well, but those these.
He won't get any better at them either; not at 36. A front office that has historically preferred to jettison players a year too early rather than a year too late is surely aware of this.
I think this might be Eli's last season as a Giant. Whether Davis Webb is the answer remains to be seen.
So why would you force him into a system, 10 years into his career, that ask him to do those things, rather than design an offense to maximize the things he does well?
always try to divert the blame away from themselves. Reese didn't fix the crappy OL, but that's Eli's fault. Mac refuses to adapt his scheme and reshuffle his personnel to place the team in the best situation to win, but that's Eli's fault. Screw both of them. If this team continues down this path I hope both are shown the door after the season.
To me, McAdoo is a typical system guy and has been trying to change Eli from day one. The footwork (getting the snap with his right foot behind him instead of the left), the short to mid range stuff, expecting him to be mobile enough to handle "dirty pockets", etc.
It worked early on. Then Minnesota gave the entire NFL the framework on how to stop the Giants offense early last season. There have not been any significant (Or even small) adjustments to the scheme to fit the QB's skill set since and instead, he went ultra conservative last year and let the defense dictate wins. It worked and is the reason why not much changed for this season, but after watching the regression this season, it's pretty clear it isn't sustainable. We had a very easy schedule last year and OBJ made enough huge plays late in games to get us wins (Baltimore and Dallas as prime examples).
This offense simply isn't sustainable with Eli as the QB so either he adjusts like a real head coach should or throw the QB under the bus and force him out an dfind someone who fits the scheme better. I hope it isn't the latter but what Boomer is saying does sound reasonable.
is that if you have a system that requires an Aaron Rodgers running it to be successful, you don't have a great system.
My growing fear is that Mac is trying to subtly (and not so subtly) move away from eli to a type of QB like Rodgers, but guys like that don't grow on trees.
I feel the same way as well
We saw that during the draft when he lobbied hard to trade up for Mahones.
If Eli took Tom Brady momey the giants would be able to get a good tackle, i hope they ask him to take a pay cut. They cant cut him, but its a look we need the cash to keep you out of the hospital. He makes alot of money in endorsements too.
Release? I don't think so!
Trade? To unload his contract?
Do you really think Reese or McAdoo has any say in where and when Eli leaves? Those decisions are not left to employees.
He has a no-trade clause. The roster bonus on the 3rd day of the league year is a tool put in place to force the Giants to decide. If Eli's roster bonus is paid next year, then he will be the starting QB. You don't pay a player $16 MM to be a back-up.
is that if you have a system that requires an Aaron Rodgers running it to be successful, you don't have a great system.
My growing fear is that Mac is trying to subtly (and not so subtly) move away from eli to a type of QB like Rodgers, but guys like that don't grow on trees.
I feel the same way as well
I posted this exact thing on another thread. It is becoming quite obvious McAdoo wants Eli out and somebody more mobile in. Which is odd then that we drafted Webb as he is not exactly a mobile threat at QB.
QB mobility is key
George : 2:51 pm : link : reply
The new NFL demands athleticism from the QB position. Just about all offenses now ask him to move around the pocket, buy time, and pick up yards with his feet on occasion
The top QB's are mainly pocket passers with average mobility. And Eli can extend a play - he isn't great at avoiding pressure from two sides simultaneously, nor are many QB's. But if you look at Brees, Ryan, Rivers, Ben, Palmer, Brady, Cousins, Dalton, Flacco, Bradford and Luck, you are talking about guys who only run when absolutely necessary, and arfe about as adept as eli is in buying extra time.
Rodgers is the rare player who consistently buys time and then often makes the correct decision whether to run or not. Other players like Cam and Mariota often run far too soon.
Since we're asking questions...
LakeGeorgeGiant : 3:06 pm : link : reply
Do you think Mara would clean house and build around a 36 year old QB that is a throwback to another era of football?
But what's gone on on the offensive side of the ball over the last 4 years has been a strange ride.
First of all, if Mac wants a QB "like" Aaron Rodgers, good luck and he should get in line. Pretty sure there's only one of those in the world.
Eli is hearing footsteps? No shit! This line has been a rebuild since 2012 and I place alot of the blame on Coughlin for this as he stayed loyal to Diehl and Snee for too long.
Personnel: In the last 3 seasons, take a look at the personnel Eli's been handed outside of Odell Beckham. Zero running backs to speak of. Ruben Randle, a broken down Victor Cruz and a so far a seemingly disinterested Brandon Marshall. Hopefully Shepard continues to progress. Tight Ends have been even more laughable outside of Engram's potential.
Through all of this Eli had a Pro Bowl worthy 2015 season (not that long ago), and did pretty well to help guide an offense with he and one other difference maker just last season, and by the way, was the only offensive player to show up in GB in January which should come as a surprise to no one.
Eli is a pocket passer, the little mobility he once had is now zero mobility. He's older. This really isnt that shocking.
For some reason, Eli reached a statistical peak when TC's and Mac's offensive concepts were combined. McAdoo would be wise to revisit some of that tape and those concepts and find out what was working with Coughlin around just two years ago and what and why it's not working now. It seems Sullivan would be a good bridge to get there but this would mean Mac would have to swallow some of his pride which I doubt he would do.
trusts the OL the O is not going to perform ... plain and simple
as noted earlier the happy feet ... you could see ELI made a concerned effort to trust blindly which turned into holding the ball too long a few times ...
The good thing is his internal clock is now broken his OL and confidence in him is ... they need to fix it or the last leg of his career he is David Carr
I will say one thing - and I still hope they turn it around - BUT if this season were to go completely south and turn into another 2003 type situation, this upcoming QB draft class is the class to have this happen.
Not sure how much credibility to even give the comment to be honest.
It's pretty weird how fast some people are ready to compare the team to the Jets when there's something to complain about. As if there's no earned credibility here.
1) The Giants saw the Cowboys lose Romo last year and put in a Rookie Qb and have success. he has mobility and smarts and they were able to win with him at the helm. On top of it, he kept turnovers to a min, something Eli is not great at.
2) Eli was Coughlin's guy. More than Reese and obviously more than McAdoo!
3) I agree with the fact that McAdoo sees Rodgers play and designs an offense here where the same thing would be used but can't be because Eli cannot move around that way.
4) Other teams have had success with less than STELLAR lines. Plus, with the inability of Eli to move around it magnifies the absolute swing and miss the team had with Flowers.
I am not saying I agree with these statements (meaning I don't think it is right to use those as the team is structured one way -talent wise, but run another- scheme and play calling wise.
I was saying this yesterday and the day before, I truly believe McAdoo is not happy with having Eli and his current skill set as his QB. We shall see if this goes anywhere but I am 100% in the camp that says this is probably Eli's last year with the Giants. No Trade Clauses mean nothing if the player waves them. I would not be surprised to see Eli in Jacksonville to finish his career.
Could some of his characteristics be better? You bet! But he's always been not very mobile, occasionally had happy feet and not always been accurate. I can remember seasons earlier in his career where he sometimes couldn't hit the broadside of a barn.
And then there were the periods when he was GREAT!
Trying to pin the responsibility for poor drafting and personnel choices, and VERY questionable coaching on Eli is just scapegoating, and pure BULL SHIT!
Sounds like the opinions of people who can't acknowledge there own ineptitude. He's no different then he's always been.
is that if you have a system that requires an Aaron Rodgers running it to be successful, you don't have a great system.
My growing fear is that Mac is trying to subtly (and not so subtly) move away from eli to a type of QB like Rodgers, but guys like that don't grow on trees.
I feel the same way as well
I posted this exact thing on another thread. It is becoming quite obvious McAdoo wants Eli out and somebody more mobile in. Which is odd then that we drafted Webb as he is not exactly a mobile threat at QB.
Although Webb will never be mistaken for one of the more athletic QBs, he is somewhat elusive and able to scramble around a bit; certainly more than Eli. We saw a little of that in preseason, where he successfully extended a few plays by ducking and scrambling away from the pass rush.
is that if you have a system that requires an Aaron Rodgers running it to be successful, you don't have a great system.
My growing fear is that Mac is trying to subtly (and not so subtly) move away from eli to a type of QB like Rodgers, but guys like that don't grow on trees.
I feel the same way as well
I posted this exact thing on another thread. It is becoming quite obvious McAdoo wants Eli out and somebody more mobile in. Which is odd then that we drafted Webb as he is not exactly a mobile threat at QB.
Although Webb will never be mistaken for one of the more athletic QBs, he is somewhat elusive and able to scramble around a bit; certainly more than Eli. We saw a little of that in preseason, where he successfully extended a few plays by ducking and scrambling away from the pass rush.
Somewhat elusive but, he did it against the scrub of the scrubs.. He was not known or considered to be a "move" guy and with this line, you had better be able to move VERY well.
trusts the OL the O is not going to perform ... plain and simple
as noted earlier the happy feet ... you could see ELI made a concerned effort to trust blindly which turned into holding the ball too long a few times ...
The good thing is his internal clock is now broken his OL and confidence in him is ... they need to fix it or the last leg of his career he is David Carr
is that if you have a system that requires an Aaron Rodgers running it to be successful, you don't have a great system.
My growing fear is that Mac is trying to subtly (and not so subtly) move away from eli to a type of QB like Rodgers, but guys like that don't grow on trees.
I feel the same way as well
I posted this exact thing on another thread. It is becoming quite obvious McAdoo wants Eli out and somebody more mobile in. Which is odd then that we drafted Webb as he is not exactly a mobile threat at QB.
Although Webb will never be mistaken for one of the more athletic QBs, he is somewhat elusive and able to scramble around a bit; certainly more than Eli. We saw a little of that in preseason, where he successfully extended a few plays by ducking and scrambling away from the pass rush.
And, to my point though, if you are looking for a more mobile QB there were other options. Webb is developmental guy, so again if movement was needed now and wanted now we did nothing to acquire that. Kind of like drafting Clint Sintim and trying to make him a 4/3 backer with coverage responsibilities.. Umm, NO!
taking in consideration that the lack of development of Ol at college level, is more suited for qbs that are mobile and tangible of using feet to gain positive yards. pocket passers are become ancient in today's game and offensive schemes and are a liability ...unless you have basically a HOF offensive linemen at least 3/5ths. no escaping it.
Eli is not suited for nowadays game..esp here
I wonder if they're unhappy with how Eli is (or isn't)
calling out pass rush packages, and isn't aligning the OL properly. Other than that, I don't know how much of this mess they can pin on Eli. Not saying he's been flawless, far from it, but more often than not, he barely has time to drop back.
I also wonder if McAdoo and/or his minions are whispering to the press that Eli is the problem. McAdoo has called out Eli before, and may be looking for a convenient scapegoat.
give me a break..ol is prime example today as to why..granted the right position player has to be almost as close to sure to be and fit what you are trying to accomplish. fit into system..period
people just willfully ignoring that pocket passers are all over the NFL?
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pocket passers are become ancient in today's game and offensive schemes and are a liability ...unless you have basically a HOF offensive linemen at least 3/5ths. no escaping it.
What do you think Ryan and Brady are perfect examples of?
I say screw the Giants and ask for a trade to JAX.
If I'm Eli, I refuse a trade. He negotiated a contract with a no-trade clause. I play out the season and force the Giants to release him prior to the roster bonus coming due. This way, Eli can choose where he goes as a FA. If that so happens to be Jax, then so be it. But whatever team he signs with will negotiate based on current market value of QBs.
To me, McAdoo is a typical system guy and has been trying to change Eli from day one. The footwork (getting the snap with his right foot behind him instead of the left), the short to mid range stuff, expecting him to be mobile enough to handle "dirty pockets", etc.
It worked early on. Then Minnesota gave the entire NFL the framework on how to stop the Giants offense early last season. There have not been any significant (Or even small) adjustments to the scheme to fit the QB's skill set since and instead, he went ultra conservative last year and let the defense dictate wins. It worked and is the reason why not much changed for this season, but after watching the regression this season, it's pretty clear it isn't sustainable. We had a very easy schedule last year and OBJ made enough huge plays late in games to get us wins (Baltimore and Dallas as prime examples).
This offense simply isn't sustainable with Eli as the QB so either he adjusts like a real head coach should or throw the QB under the bus and force him out an dfind someone who fits the scheme better. I hope it isn't the latter but what Boomer is saying does sound reasonable.
you end up drafting Ereck Flowers with the 9th pick overall. It's insane.
Draft players. Fill immediate needs with free agents.
Although I think they really liked Flowers......I do remember a TN grabbing a lineman that we probably preferred (how is he doing anyway?)..........
Taylor Lewan? I think he is kicking ass for Tennessee
Lewan was a prior draft. Conklin was the guy we were rumored to want before Tenn. grabbing him. And he is doing awesome in conjunction with the rest of the Tenn. OL.
I say screw the Giants and ask for a trade to JAX.
If I'm Eli, I refuse a trade. He negotiated a contract with a no-trade clause. I play out the season and force the Giants to release him prior to the roster bonus coming due. This way, Eli can choose where he goes as a FA. If that so happens to be Jax, then so be it. But whatever team he signs with will negotiate based on current market value of QBs.
Good point. JAX would be a good landing spot though. Good young defense. Good running game. Solid OL. Coughlin connection. With Eli I think they'd be one receiver away from being a legit contender.
is that if you have a system that requires an Aaron Rodgers running it to be successful, you don't have a great system.
My growing fear is that Mac is trying to subtly (and not so subtly) move away from eli to a type of QB like Rodgers, but guys like that don't grow on trees.
Maybe that's why he wanted to trade up for Mahomes.
seems odd that he can't...
Nope
Never have ever bet against the Giants before, but watching Erick Flowers has possibly converted me...
He won't get any better at them either; not at 36. A front office that has historically preferred to jettison players a year too early rather than a year too late is surely aware of this.
I think this might be Eli's last season as a Giant. Whether Davis Webb is the answer remains to be seen.
So why would you force him into a system, 10 years into his career, that ask him to do those things, rather than design an offense to maximize the things he does well?
Because it's not what other teams are doing?
It worked early on. Then Minnesota gave the entire NFL the framework on how to stop the Giants offense early last season. There have not been any significant (Or even small) adjustments to the scheme to fit the QB's skill set since and instead, he went ultra conservative last year and let the defense dictate wins. It worked and is the reason why not much changed for this season, but after watching the regression this season, it's pretty clear it isn't sustainable. We had a very easy schedule last year and OBJ made enough huge plays late in games to get us wins (Baltimore and Dallas as prime examples).
This offense simply isn't sustainable with Eli as the QB so either he adjusts like a real head coach should or throw the QB under the bus and force him out an dfind someone who fits the scheme better. I hope it isn't the latter but what Boomer is saying does sound reasonable.
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is that if you have a system that requires an Aaron Rodgers running it to be successful, you don't have a great system.
My growing fear is that Mac is trying to subtly (and not so subtly) move away from eli to a type of QB like Rodgers, but guys like that don't grow on trees.
I feel the same way as well
Trade? To unload his contract?
Do you really think Reese or McAdoo has any say in where and when Eli leaves? Those decisions are not left to employees.
Trade? To unload his contract?
Do you really think Reese or McAdoo has any say in where and when Eli leaves? Those decisions are not left to employees.
He has a no-trade clause. The roster bonus on the 3rd day of the league year is a tool put in place to force the Giants to decide. If Eli's roster bonus is paid next year, then he will be the starting QB. You don't pay a player $16 MM to be a back-up.
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is that if you have a system that requires an Aaron Rodgers running it to be successful, you don't have a great system.
My growing fear is that Mac is trying to subtly (and not so subtly) move away from eli to a type of QB like Rodgers, but guys like that don't grow on trees.
I feel the same way as well
I posted this exact thing on another thread. It is becoming quite obvious McAdoo wants Eli out and somebody more mobile in. Which is odd then that we drafted Webb as he is not exactly a mobile threat at QB.
George : 2:51 pm : link : reply
The new NFL demands athleticism from the QB position. Just about all offenses now ask him to move around the pocket, buy time, and pick up yards with his feet on occasion
The top QB's are mainly pocket passers with average mobility. And Eli can extend a play - he isn't great at avoiding pressure from two sides simultaneously, nor are many QB's. But if you look at Brees, Ryan, Rivers, Ben, Palmer, Brady, Cousins, Dalton, Flacco, Bradford and Luck, you are talking about guys who only run when absolutely necessary, and arfe about as adept as eli is in buying extra time.
Rodgers is the rare player who consistently buys time and then often makes the correct decision whether to run or not. Other players like Cam and Mariota often run far too soon.
LakeGeorgeGiant : 3:06 pm : link : reply
Do you think Mara would clean house and build around a 36 year old QB that is a throwback to another era of football?
Pocket passers are the norm, not the exception.
First of all, if Mac wants a QB "like" Aaron Rodgers, good luck and he should get in line. Pretty sure there's only one of those in the world.
Eli is hearing footsteps? No shit! This line has been a rebuild since 2012 and I place alot of the blame on Coughlin for this as he stayed loyal to Diehl and Snee for too long.
Personnel: In the last 3 seasons, take a look at the personnel Eli's been handed outside of Odell Beckham. Zero running backs to speak of. Ruben Randle, a broken down Victor Cruz and a so far a seemingly disinterested Brandon Marshall. Hopefully Shepard continues to progress. Tight Ends have been even more laughable outside of Engram's potential.
Through all of this Eli had a Pro Bowl worthy 2015 season (not that long ago), and did pretty well to help guide an offense with he and one other difference maker just last season, and by the way, was the only offensive player to show up in GB in January which should come as a surprise to no one.
Eli is a pocket passer, the little mobility he once had is now zero mobility. He's older. This really isnt that shocking.
For some reason, Eli reached a statistical peak when TC's and Mac's offensive concepts were combined. McAdoo would be wise to revisit some of that tape and those concepts and find out what was working with Coughlin around just two years ago and what and why it's not working now. It seems Sullivan would be a good bridge to get there but this would mean Mac would have to swallow some of his pride which I doubt he would do.
as noted earlier the happy feet ... you could see ELI made a concerned effort to trust blindly which turned into holding the ball too long a few times ...
The good thing is his internal clock is now broken his OL and confidence in him is ... they need to fix it or the last leg of his career he is David Carr
Huge difference...
And this false narrative that a more mobile QB would succeed here is just pure poppycock...
After that, 4 more years of Benny Greaseball and Jerry Cockroach
Not sure how much credibility to even give the comment to be honest.
It's pretty weird how fast some people are ready to compare the team to the Jets when there's something to complain about. As if there's no earned credibility here.
1) The Giants saw the Cowboys lose Romo last year and put in a Rookie Qb and have success. he has mobility and smarts and they were able to win with him at the helm. On top of it, he kept turnovers to a min, something Eli is not great at.
2) Eli was Coughlin's guy. More than Reese and obviously more than McAdoo!
3) I agree with the fact that McAdoo sees Rodgers play and designs an offense here where the same thing would be used but can't be because Eli cannot move around that way.
4) Other teams have had success with less than STELLAR lines. Plus, with the inability of Eli to move around it magnifies the absolute swing and miss the team had with Flowers.
I am not saying I agree with these statements (meaning I don't think it is right to use those as the team is structured one way -talent wise, but run another- scheme and play calling wise.
I was saying this yesterday and the day before, I truly believe McAdoo is not happy with having Eli and his current skill set as his QB. We shall see if this goes anywhere but I am 100% in the camp that says this is probably Eli's last year with the Giants. No Trade Clauses mean nothing if the player waves them. I would not be surprised to see Eli in Jacksonville to finish his career.
No. No. No. No.
The draft is not about positions.
And then there were the periods when he was GREAT!
Trying to pin the responsibility for poor drafting and personnel choices, and VERY questionable coaching on Eli is just scapegoating, and pure BULL SHIT!
Sounds like the opinions of people who can't acknowledge there own ineptitude. He's no different then he's always been.
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is that if you have a system that requires an Aaron Rodgers running it to be successful, you don't have a great system.
My growing fear is that Mac is trying to subtly (and not so subtly) move away from eli to a type of QB like Rodgers, but guys like that don't grow on trees.
I feel the same way as well
I posted this exact thing on another thread. It is becoming quite obvious McAdoo wants Eli out and somebody more mobile in. Which is odd then that we drafted Webb as he is not exactly a mobile threat at QB.
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is that if you have a system that requires an Aaron Rodgers running it to be successful, you don't have a great system.
My growing fear is that Mac is trying to subtly (and not so subtly) move away from eli to a type of QB like Rodgers, but guys like that don't grow on trees.
I feel the same way as well
I posted this exact thing on another thread. It is becoming quite obvious McAdoo wants Eli out and somebody more mobile in. Which is odd then that we drafted Webb as he is not exactly a mobile threat at QB.
Although Webb will never be mistaken for one of the more athletic QBs, he is somewhat elusive and able to scramble around a bit; certainly more than Eli. We saw a little of that in preseason, where he successfully extended a few plays by ducking and scrambling away from the pass rush.
Somewhat elusive but, he did it against the scrub of the scrubs.. He was not known or considered to be a "move" guy and with this line, you had better be able to move VERY well.
as noted earlier the happy feet ... you could see ELI made a concerned effort to trust blindly which turned into holding the ball too long a few times ...
The good thing is his internal clock is now broken his OL and confidence in him is ... they need to fix it or the last leg of his career he is David Carr
meant *in them ... (OL)
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is that if you have a system that requires an Aaron Rodgers running it to be successful, you don't have a great system.
My growing fear is that Mac is trying to subtly (and not so subtly) move away from eli to a type of QB like Rodgers, but guys like that don't grow on trees.
I feel the same way as well
I posted this exact thing on another thread. It is becoming quite obvious McAdoo wants Eli out and somebody more mobile in. Which is odd then that we drafted Webb as he is not exactly a mobile threat at QB.
Although Webb will never be mistaken for one of the more athletic QBs, he is somewhat elusive and able to scramble around a bit; certainly more than Eli. We saw a little of that in preseason, where he successfully extended a few plays by ducking and scrambling away from the pass rush.
And, to my point though, if you are looking for a more mobile QB there were other options. Webb is developmental guy, so again if movement was needed now and wanted now we did nothing to acquire that. Kind of like drafting Clint Sintim and trying to make him a 4/3 backer with coverage responsibilities.. Umm, NO!
Eli is not suited for nowadays game..esp here
I also wonder if McAdoo and/or his minions are whispering to the press that Eli is the problem. McAdoo has called out Eli before, and may be looking for a convenient scapegoat.
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QB and OT
No. No. No. No.
The draft is not about positions.
give me a break..ol is prime example today as to why..granted the right position player has to be almost as close to sure to be and fit what you are trying to accomplish. fit into system..period
What do you think Ryan and Brady are perfect examples of?
If I'm Eli, I refuse a trade. He negotiated a contract with a no-trade clause. I play out the season and force the Giants to release him prior to the roster bonus coming due. This way, Eli can choose where he goes as a FA. If that so happens to be Jax, then so be it. But whatever team he signs with will negotiate based on current market value of QBs.
Draft players. Fill immediate needs with free agents.
Draft players. Fill immediate needs with free agents.
Haha (cries on the inside). This +1
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QB and OT
No. No. No. No.
The draft is not about positions.
Exactly, you don't reach based on position.
Draft players. Fill immediate needs with free agents.
Although I think they really liked Flowers......I do remember a TN grabbing a lineman that we probably preferred (how is he doing anyway?)..........
It worked early on. Then Minnesota gave the entire NFL the framework on how to stop the Giants offense early last season. There have not been any significant (Or even small) adjustments to the scheme to fit the QB's skill set since and instead, he went ultra conservative last year and let the defense dictate wins. It worked and is the reason why not much changed for this season, but after watching the regression this season, it's pretty clear it isn't sustainable. We had a very easy schedule last year and OBJ made enough huge plays late in games to get us wins (Baltimore and Dallas as prime examples).
This offense simply isn't sustainable with Eli as the QB so either he adjusts like a real head coach should or throw the QB under the bus and force him out an dfind someone who fits the scheme better. I hope it isn't the latter but what Boomer is saying does sound reasonable.
Great post!
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you end up drafting Ereck Flowers with the 9th pick overall. It's insane.
Draft players. Fill immediate needs with free agents.
Although I think they really liked Flowers......I do remember a TN grabbing a lineman that we probably preferred (how is he doing anyway?)..........
Taylor Lewan? I think he is kicking ass for Tennessee
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you end up drafting Ereck Flowers with the 9th pick overall. It's insane.
Draft players. Fill immediate needs with free agents.
Although I think they really liked Flowers......I do remember a TN grabbing a lineman that we probably preferred (how is he doing anyway?)..........
Taylor Lewan? I think he is kicking ass for Tennessee
Lewan was a prior draft. Conklin was the guy we were rumored to want before Tenn. grabbing him. And he is doing awesome in conjunction with the rest of the Tenn. OL.
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I say screw the Giants and ask for a trade to JAX.
If I'm Eli, I refuse a trade. He negotiated a contract with a no-trade clause. I play out the season and force the Giants to release him prior to the roster bonus coming due. This way, Eli can choose where he goes as a FA. If that so happens to be Jax, then so be it. But whatever team he signs with will negotiate based on current market value of QBs.
Good point. JAX would be a good landing spot though. Good young defense. Good running game. Solid OL. Coughlin connection. With Eli I think they'd be one receiver away from being a legit contender.
My growing fear is that Mac is trying to subtly (and not so subtly) move away from eli to a type of QB like Rodgers, but guys like that don't grow on trees.
Maybe that's why he wanted to trade up for Mahomes.
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Eli's internally unhappy about this garbage line protecting him.
There's maybe three lines in football that would give Eli what he needs. There are more than three QBs that could manage this team.
And those quarterbacks are...?