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Section308 : 9/21/2017 9:30 pm
Besides OBJ and Collins where is this team better than what REESE inherited? Even though OBJ is a superstar the difference is not that significant with what we had with Plax. The first big move this clown introduced was to trade Tuck for Al Wilson, which luckily for the Giants was canned by their medical staff. Seems to be the guy intentionally sand bagged TC's last season with that pathetic defense he supplied him with. Now, him and the porn star are using Eli as a similar scapegoat.
LOL  
Rflairr : 9/21/2017 9:31 pm : link
Are you serious?
Wow!  
Bill in TN : 9/21/2017 9:32 pm : link
.
This is  
mattlawson : 9/21/2017 9:33 pm : link
Hawt take cuisine
Offense  
Section308 : 9/21/2017 9:45 pm : link
Eli = Eli
Tiki > Darkwa
Jacobs > Perkins
Finn > Smith
Shockey > all 4 current TEs
Diehl, Seubert, Mckenzie, Snee, O'Hara all better than any current ol
Toomer > Marshall or Shepherd
OBJ > Plax
Defense  
Section308 : 9/21/2017 9:54 pm : link
Strahan > JPP
OSI > Vernon
Robbins, Cofeild, Tuck > Snacks, Tomlinson, Bromley, Okwara
Pierce > Goodson
Short > Casilas
Kiwanuka = Kennard
Secondary this 2017 team wins,
Webster was better than Apple but worse than DRC and Jenkins
Madison was serviceable but can't compete with DRC and Jack rabbit
Collins > Wilson
Demps = Thompson (both stink)
I would take the current DT  
Chip : 9/21/2017 10:09 pm : link
Snacks is better. Tuck played a lot of DE.
I think you have give Reese a little credit  
Rjanyg : 9/21/2017 10:15 pm : link
He drafted Philllips, Manningham, The whole 2007 draft: Ross, Smith, Boss, Bradshaw. JPP.....some important players in the 2011 Super bowl.

The biggest issue is the transition from the 2011 O Line ( which was in its last legs ) to the one we currently have. Pugh and Richburg are set to be FA next year, Jerry sucks, Hart is below average and Flowers is....well...Flowers.

I think Wheeler could be a viable candidate to replace Flowers at some point. Maybe Flowers goes to RT. I would just like to see if Fluker at RG could improve the run games. Jones is a decent LG.
2007 Draft  
Section308 : 9/21/2017 10:24 pm : link
A lot of people like to give REESE credit for that draft, but they seem to forget that Accorsi stayed on until after that draft was complete. Really liked Bradshaw from that draft but the rest of the players in that draft Coughlin got the most out of them and they never ready amounted to much in the NFL not sure if any saw a second contract with the giants except Bradshaw
For one thing, Snacks  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 9/21/2017 10:28 pm : link
is leaps and bounds beyond any DT on that squad.

That said, the entire premise of your thread is ridiculous nonsense.
Why do many think  
Doomster : 9/21/2017 10:28 pm : link
that Wheeler is going to replace Flowers?

Guy wasn't drafted....played against only second and third stringers?

And all he has to do is work out more...

Seriously?
Snacks is great at stopping the run  
Section308 : 9/21/2017 10:36 pm : link
But to say he leaps above Tuck and cofield is ridicuous. Tuck was an absolute unstoppable force at DT once spags moved him there in 2007. He owned the 2007 post season against run and pass. Cofield was a beast as well for many years with both the Giants and Redskins. Robbins was better than bromley timlinson
RE: Why do many think  
Glover : 9/22/2017 8:16 am : link
In comment 13610265 Doomster said:
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that Wheeler is going to replace Flowers?

Guy wasn't drafted....played against only second and third stringers?

And all he has to do is work out more...

Seriously?


Because Flowers IS HORRIBLE!!!! He was drafted 9th overall and he is arguably the worst LT in the business. Wheeler has skills, was underrated because he hit a cop. Enough with the coaches/Reese know best defense. It's not working. I'm sure you get different results with a different coaching staff/GM.
2 losses..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 9/22/2017 8:18 am : link
really bring out the fucking stupid in a lot of people.

Beat with a goddamned stick or something!!
I dont see the wisdom  
Glover : 9/22/2017 8:21 am : link
in defending "Flowers and Hart are the starters because the coaches (and Reese) say so".
You can t balms Reese for this mess  
joeinpa : 9/22/2017 9:22 am : link
Without giving him credit for 07 and 11. That s the way it works
RE: Snacks is great at stopping the run  
Section331 : 9/22/2017 9:49 am : link
In comment 13610278 Section308 said:
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But to say he leaps above Tuck and cofield is ridicuous. Tuck was an absolute unstoppable force at DT once spags moved him there in 2007. He owned the 2007 post season against run and pass. Cofield was a beast as well for many years with both the Giants and Redskins. Robbins was better than bromley timlinson


Certainly not leaps better than Tuck, but JT played a lot of DE. Snacks is considerably better than Cofield, that isn't even close.
RE: 2007 Draft  
CBoss7 : 9/22/2017 9:59 am : link
In comment 13610260 Section308 said:
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A lot of people like to give REESE credit for that draft, but they seem to forget that Accorsi stayed on until after that draft was complete. Really liked Bradshaw from that draft but the rest of the players in that draft Coughlin got the most out of them and they never ready amounted to much in the NFL not sure if any saw a second contract with the giants except Bradshaw


Is there any evidence Acorsi was in charge of the 2007 draft?
This is such a bullshit take  
Giantology : 9/22/2017 10:39 am : link
And it completely ignores all of Reese's contributions to the roster prior to his becoming GM. Just as an example, Reese is the one who pleaded for the Giants to draft Osi Umenyiora. Accorsi may have been making final decisions, but it was Reese who was running the war room and talent evaluation in the first place.

To then come in and say that Accorsi was responsible for the 2007 draft is a load of shit, Accorsi retired as our GM in mid January 2007.
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