This has been a trend since the end of the 2013 season.
-After 2013, Mara says the offense is broken and Gilbride is forced out and McAdoo hired. Beckham is drafted.
-After 2014/15, the defense is now broken. Spags is hired after 2014 & $200M spent on the defense.
-Now the offense is broken again.
I loved the 11-5 record last year, but I hate they way they're built. $200M in FA to cover up crappy drafting is not the answer. 2005-2011, this team was balanced better on both sides of the ball, perhaps less focused on either side and more focused on the team.
They are both free agents and we have to re-up OBJ.
Oh yeah, we need a RG and a OT. Maybe a stud RB too.
Lots of work to do with the offense.
They've invested a lot of resources on the offense too, especially this offseason. It hasn't worked out as well.
The biggest problem is this franchise no longer seems to know how to put an OL together. But they've spent resources to do so. Ineffectively.
There are a lot of things to complain about, but adding Harrison, Jenkins, and Vernon are not at the top of my list.
They've invested a lot of resources on the offense too, especially this offseason. It hasn't worked out as well.
The biggest problem is this franchise no longer seems to know how to put an OL together. But they've spent resources to do so. Ineffectively.
There are a lot of things to complain about, but adding Harrison, Jenkins, and Vernon are not at the top of my list.
I have also said it many times the last two weeks, but I believe simply laying this on the OL is a copout. McAdoo was brought in to combat a bad OL and for two years his offense did just that. The OL was just as bad and they had less talent all around on offense. Yet, they had two prolific offensive seasons. After his elevation to HC his offense drastically changed and he is the person most responsible for that. He decided not to carry a FB last year and not to utilize a FB or 2 TE sets most of the time this year. He is the one that has run the ball on consecutive downs twice. He is the one who refused to bench shitty OL. He is the one who is constantly calling calling 2 year passes. And on and on. Last year, it appears more and more that 11-5 was the result of a great overhaul of the defensive personnel and not his talent as a HC. He appears more and more in over his head as a HC calling the plays.
She likes to focus on the D, too, huh?
They've invested a lot of resources on the offense too, especially this offseason. It hasn't worked out as well.
The biggest problem is this franchise no longer seems to know how to put an OL together. But they've spent resources to do so. Ineffectively.
There are a lot of things to complain about, but adding Harrison, Jenkins, and Vernon are not at the top of my list.
Eric, I see your point and agree,,,alomost completely. One problem I see is a sort of confirmation bias by the Giants and by many fans. The Offense scored lots of points and moved the ball so everything on offense is fine. The defense played so much better and was really good against the Cowboys and a few others that it is borderline great...
The biggest misnomer I see is where people say the Giants offense was so much better with McAdoo when he was the OC. I don't agree with that. First off the biggest problem we have (Oline) and the second biggest (running game) has been issue for a while. Even in 2015, where the offensive numbers were better we still had issues. In fact, I remember clearly stating as such and having many people knock that thought citing stats of yards, TDs without context. The Giants were behind a lot! The Giants had long stretches in many games where the offense completely bogged down. The Giants could not run to help save a very bad and thin defense. We couldn't convert 3rd downs and when needed we could not muster the drives to win games. The defense was blamed and rightfully so but the offense didn't help much when needed. (BTW- this is the same argument we are seeing now about this years defense..)
The Giants organization decided to load up on defense. Then this off season we loaded up on TE, FB and a bigger WR to supposedly help with the offense that was too 1 player focused. Again, they ignored the Oline, basically ignored the running game in terms of finding a back who was significantly different than what we have now and they ignored the advancing age of Eli and the need to tweak the offense to fit what he is best at.
Football teams are built differently than any other sport. Our defense has to be built to do its job but also to be a help to our offense and our offense has to be built to do its job and help our defense. Our defense would be much better if were on the field less. If we had teams pinned back in their own territory more. BUT, our offense can't run, so we are stuck throwing and we can't pass block. This leads to 3 and outs, fast changes of offense and defense, losing the field position battle, making our defense have to be less aggressive for fear of quick strike scores... Right now we are a flawed team in design, a helter skelter team in direction and scheme and a very one dimensional team or one sided team on the field (defense only!).
Even assuming somehow we hit on all the signings like we improbably did on D, and the OL was solid, we'd still be shitty on D.
The issue we are facing isn't one of not attempting to fix things or not spending on the OL - it is that we've missed on draft picks and signings. Whiffed.
Why posters keep trying to tie it to the D is strange at best and is really shitty logic.
Even assuming somehow we hit on all the signings like we improbably did on D, and the OL was solid, we'd still be shitty on D.
The issue we are facing isn't one of not attempting to fix things or not spending on the OL - it is that we've missed on draft picks and signings. Whiffed.
Why posters keep trying to tie it to the D is strange at best and is really shitty logic.
The only direct tie-in to the D is the constant revolving door of DTs after their first contracts that necessitated draft picks.
It's the complete whiffing on the mid to late rounds that has brought us to this point.
Pugh is a good player, but he's a role player on a good line. If he's the best, your line isn't good enough.
There is a massive investment in the offense, we just seem to be really bad at assessing and developing OL talent.
Even assuming somehow we hit on all the signings like we improbably did on D, and the OL was solid, we'd still be shitty on D.
The issue we are facing isn't one of not attempting to fix things or not spending on the OL - it is that we've missed on draft picks and signings. Whiffed.
Why posters keep trying to tie it to the D is strange at best and is really shitty logic.
Bingo
Even assuming somehow we hit on all the signings like we improbably did on D, and the OL was solid, we'd still be shitty on D.
The issue we are facing isn't one of not attempting to fix things or not spending on the OL - it is that we've missed on draft picks and signings. Whiffed.
Why posters keep trying to tie it to the D is strange at best and is really shitty logic.
Not sure if you are tying your comment to my post but if so you are not reading my post correctly. I have no issue with money spent on the defensive players we got. I do have an issue that we looked at it as the main issue with the team and ignored that our biggest problem period was no running game and a poor Oline. How do you think dallas manages to do well with much LESS talent on their defense. They eat the clock, they hold the ball, they protect their defense.
We upgrade the defense and then turn around and go we can fix the offense by signing a TE, drafting a TE (after drafting one the year before too) and adding a FB. None of those matter if they can't block their own assignments because the Oline let guys through too soon or are so poor we now have to assign one of them to help the T..
I am 100% for the guys we signed on defense but we have done nothing on the other side to really help them become more successful. In fact, we have done such a poor job we actually seem to have made our defense be a bit more cautious to avoid giving up quick points.
Even assuming somehow we hit on all the signings like we improbably did on D, and the OL was solid, we'd still be shitty on D.
The issue we are facing isn't one of not attempting to fix things or not spending on the OL - it is that we've missed on draft picks and signings. Whiffed.
Why posters keep trying to tie it to the D is strange at best and is really shitty logic.