Many BBIers and football experts have suggested that since Flowers isn’t working out at LT, that a move to RT would make a lot sense. But does it really?
Back in the day most NFL teams put their best pass rusher at LDE, so opposing offenses could get by with playing a RT who was not quite as good at pass blocking. Now formidable pass rushers come from both the left and the right side, making it harder to hide your week pass-blocking link at RT.
If the Giants decided to move Flowers to RT, here are the pass rushers (both DE and 3-4 LBs) that Flowers would have to contend with this season:
Von Miller, Khalil Mack, Justin Houston, Joey Bosa, Ryan Kerrigan (twice) Brandon Graham (twice) Michael Bennett, Chandler Jones, Ethan Westbrooks, Tank Carradine and Tyrone Crawford.
This of course does not account for creative Defensive Coordinators flipping their DEs or LBs, so that their best pass rushers could have a shot at Flowers too.
A change of position for Flowers probably won’t happen this season anyway, but if and when it does, a switch to RT just doesn’t make any sense.
Unless the light bulb somehow turns on for Flowers, it would appear that his only suitable position in the NFL is guard…not tackle.
I still think it is bad that John Jerry is starting. He is not powerful enough to be a RG and can pick up a stunt to save his OR Eli's life.
Take Fluker out and put Hart in at RG. Fluker is slow with poor lateral movement. Hart is slow for a tackle, but would be quick for a guard. Fluker would be attacked by stunts where he would have to get outside, Hart being quicker has a better chance of picking up the stunt.
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agree. His only chance is at guard. I just think it's too late to do that this year, although LG might be possible. But absent that, he'd have to go to the bench.
Take Fluker out and put Hart in at RG. Fluker is slow with poor lateral movement. Hart is slow for a tackle, but would be quick for a guard. Fluker would be attacked by stunts where he would have to get outside, Hart being quicker has a better chance of picking up the stunt.
The thing to consider with a Fluker/Flowers right side, is that you can pound that side of the line with the run which will slow down the pass rush as it wears down the DTs and DEs
That's one of the few adjustments I think they could actually do in-season and have some success with.
Huh? TEs can only line up next to a RT? When did that become a rule?
His best position would be guard and I'm not so sure he's an NFL starter there either. Would need to see it.
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on his side to help out
Huh? TEs can only line up next to a RT? When did that become a rule?
Sarcasm....Pugh had help at RT in the Lions game.
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agree. His only chance is at guard. I just think it's too late to do that this year, although LG might be possible. But absent that, he'd have to go to the bench.
Take Fluker out and put Hart in at RG. Fluker is slow with poor lateral movement. Hart is slow for a tackle, but would be quick for a guard. Fluker would be attacked by stunts where he would have to get outside, Hart being quicker has a better chance of picking up the stunt.
The thing to consider with a Fluker/Flowers right side, is that you can pound that side of the line with the run which will slow down the pass rush as it wears down the DTs and DEs
What happens on passing downs (60% of the game)?
I think he might be best suited for the Jets
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agree. His only chance is at guard. I just think it's too late to do that this year, although LG might be possible. But absent that, he'd have to go to the bench.
Take Fluker out and put Hart in at RG. Fluker is slow with poor lateral movement. Hart is slow for a tackle, but would be quick for a guard. Fluker would be attacked by stunts where he would have to get outside, Hart being quicker has a better chance of picking up the stunt.
The thing to consider with a Fluker/Flowers right side, is that you can pound that side of the line with the run which will slow down the pass rush as it wears down the DTs and DEs
What happens on passing downs (60% of the game)?
If you can show commitment to the run game, possibly even produce a run game, then play action passing is the type of pass play that will open up. If you do that 50% of your pass plays then only straight drop or shotgun without a fake then you are minimizing the number of times a DL can pin their ears back and kill your QB.
A FLuker/Flowers right side would be a good thing. Add Ellison to the right side and pull Jones on the power off tackle play with a FB lead and maybe we could actually run the ball with success.
It might light a fire under his ass....
sorry, couldn't think of any...
This year he looks like doesn't even belong in the league..
Sad
This. They better put him inside this year because otherwise they can't justify giving him a new contract in the off season.Either he becomes a good OG or he becomes one of the worst #1 picks in NYG history!
This guy, with his stop the feet and drop his head technique, is a dream for any DL. It's career day for them when you line up vs Flowers. He's a team killer at this point.
It is basically a mismatch at the snap of the ball.
He would be better off just moving towards the Def End at the snap of the ball and playing more of a run-oriented blocking style. At least it would give Eli one more second than what he is achieving now.
Just a disaster and a strategic error to allow it to continue this year for certain...