We are winning this weekend!!!

In fact, I think there is a better chance we get shut out than we actually win. All the Eagles need might be 14 points.

Feels a lot like:
Eagles 23
Giants 3

for a few reasons.

1. I've been pretty negative and I don't like it, so I'm choosing to be optimistic even if it's me being blind. I don't care - I'm a fan and have a right to be hopeful for my team if I want to.

2. This team isn't as bad as everyone has made it out to be. Yes, the overall outcomes have been terrible, much worse than expected. The operative word is expected, because we all had much higher expectations because on paper this team should be better than 6.5 ppg avg.

3. Which then leads to thoughts on the regression to the mean. As bad as it's been, it is highly statistically unlikely that this performance will continue to be so bad.

4. Marginal improvements - the theme for this team this year has already shown performance improvements. Scoring is up 333% after just one game. Imagine how high it will go if we continue to improve every little thing by 1%?

I could go on, but that's enough for now. If this thread gets killed maybe I'll come back on and give you reasons 5-10 for optimism.

I have no faith in "Benjamin's" leadership therefore I cannot share your optimism

PRO-BOWLERS! For a bunch of no-names and criminals.

No Philly has a real D-Line -

This may be one of the worst most humiliating losses to the Eagles that the Giants ever suffer, and given the recent history, that's pretty bad.

This might be the sort of game that gets people fired from other organizations - Giants don't work that way, they wait until the season is over, but this may be the game that gets McAdoo fired.

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I see four things that give me hope:

1.) EE drops a TD, fixable.

2.) Marshall's big drop.

3.) EE's poor effort on the Eli interception.

4.) EE's dick grab and the kickoff OBs.

All of these things are easily rectified.

Eli was pretty damn close to a 300 yard 2 TD 0 pick day.

All despite the line play.

We will win, and it will be gloroius.

In comment 13610593 The_Boss said:

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In fact, I think there is a better chance we get shut out than we actually win. All the Eagles need might be 14 points. Feels a lot like: Eagles 23 Giants 3

The Eagles biggest cheerleader is all over these threads again. You've got to be happy as a pig in shit this week. When the Eagles look good, you're on every Eagles thread on the site. When they aren't playing well, you disappear. Very strange. Are you from the Philly area? Because you you just come across as a guy that gets fed Philly propaganda on a daily basis and buys into it hook, line and sinker.

And I'm not specifically talking about this thread. It's the thousands of Eagles pists over the past few seasons

the Giants will keep it close because it's the NFL and that's what happens when blowouts are expected.

In comment 13610611 BigBlueShock said:

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In comment 13610593 The_Boss said: Quote: In fact, I think there is a better chance we get shut out than we actually win. All the Eagles need might be 14 points. Feels a lot like: Eagles 23 Giants 3 The Eagles biggest cheerleader is all over these threads again. You've got to be happy as a pig in shit this week. When the Eagles look good, you're on every Eagles thread on the site. When they aren't playing well, you disappear. Very strange. Are you from the Philly area? Because you you just come across as a guy that gets fed Philly propaganda on a daily basis and buys into it hook, line and sinker. And I'm not specifically talking about this thread. It's the thousands of Eagles pists over the past few seasons

Did you miss the post yesterday where I essentially said the NYG likely have the matchup advantage on Philly everywhere except their OL vs the Philly DL? I'm thinking of course you did. If this OL wasn't literally the worst singular unit in the entire league, the NYG should win this game by 10 points.

In comment 13610618 The_Boss said:

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In comment 13610611 BigBlueShock said: Quote: In comment 13610593 The_Boss said: Quote: In fact, I think there is a better chance we get shut out than we actually win. All the Eagles need might be 14 points. Feels a lot like: Eagles 23 Giants 3 The Eagles biggest cheerleader is all over these threads again. You've got to be happy as a pig in shit this week. When the Eagles look good, you're on every Eagles thread on the site. When they aren't playing well, you disappear. Very strange. Are you from the Philly area? Because you you just come across as a guy that gets fed Philly propaganda on a daily basis and buys into it hook, line and sinker. And I'm not specifically talking about this thread. It's the thousands of Eagles pists over the past few seasons Did you miss the post yesterday where I essentially said the NYG likely have the matchup advantage on Philly everywhere except their OL vs the Philly DL? I'm thinking of course you did. If this OL wasn't literally the worst singular unit in the entire league, the NYG should win this game by 10 points.

Just like they should have vs Detroit.

And winning on turnovers..otherwise I fear seriously for Eli's health

Hates the Eagles, despises that organization and their scumbag fans. He just says it like it is: the Giants always have problems with them. And the idea that this O line will all of a sudden turn it on and play like All Pros is a dream. They suck and it will cost the Giants the season. The owner will talk tough but no one will be held accountable.

Nope not nearly poetic enough :)

Reality has won out over optimism....how I wish, with NYG fervor, that they could turn this thing around, but I just can't see it happening....Philly has owned us for three years, and there is NO team in the NFL that I DESPISE, LOATHE, DISLIKE more than the Eagles, however, I dont see us scoring more than 9. I would love nothing more than to be wrong......

I've been a diehard Giants fan for 40 years and there's never been a time I didn't watch my team and root for them, thick or thin. I'm hoping they'll win. I'm rooting for them to win. Hell, I believe they can win.

But, if they don't, at 0-3, this season has pretty much tanked. So yeah, go Giants.

simply because I won't be home to watch the game.

I do think they can rally and win a few games here and there...maybe even get to 500 at some point. But the shit is broken. We're already seeing some disturbing body language from the team in general.

If McAdoo insists on running things his way, we are doomed. His system if fubar. And he seems to be stubborn. That's a deadly combo and one this franchise is all too familiar with.

Next man to fall will be the QB. He will be the scapegoat and maybe Eli is part of the problem, who the hell knows anymore. Anyone who thinks they know everything wrong here is fooling themselves. I just know that running 11 personnel 95% of the time when it hasn't worked 95% of the time is the very definition of insanity--ironically McAdoo said this very thing.

I've never lost so much faith in such a short time with this franchise.

In comment 13610674 djm said:

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I do think they can rally and win a few games here and there...maybe even get to 500 at some point. But the shit is broken. We're already seeing some disturbing body language from the team in general. If McAdoo insists on running things his way, we are doomed. His system if fubar. And he seems to be stubborn. That's a deadly combo and one this franchise is all too familiar with. Next man to fall will be the QB. He will be the scapegoat and maybe Eli is part of the problem, who the hell knows anymore. Anyone who thinks they know everything wrong here is fooling themselves. I just know that running 11 personnel 95% of the time when it hasn't worked 95% of the time is the very definition of insanity--ironically McAdoo said this very thing. I've never lost so much faith in such a short time with this franchise.

For real.
The only thing I differ with in this post is if this does snowball to 2-5 or 1-6 at the bye, like I think it will, it will be best served to bottom out at 4-12 or worse. As much as I love Eli, if we are in a position to draft the "next guy" you pull the trigger.

but if the first offensive play is Perkins up the middle for no gain be prepared for a long afternoon.

the only way this team wins, is if it can play mistake free football.....that is a huge IF.

Dick

They will either step up or lie down. We shall see...

5. OBJ one week closer to full health vs. banged up and not very good Eagles secondary = opportunity in the passing game.

6. Given the Eagles DL vs our OL is a mismatch in our favor, so don't expect the Eagles to blitz much! No need for trickery or disguising their defenses when they think they can win straight up against us. Eli takes advantage when he knows who can win their matchups and the passing game gets right.

7. Want to bring up past season's records because somehow you think it matters? Check out our recent record against Philly in 1 PM games. Also, guess who won last year's first Philly game?

In comment 13610674 djm said:

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I do think they can rally and win a few games here and there...maybe even get to 500 at some point. But the shit is broken. We're already seeing some disturbing body language from the team in general. If McAdoo insists on running things his way, we are doomed. His system if fubar. And he seems to be stubborn. That's a deadly combo and one this franchise is all too familiar with. Next man to fall will be the QB. He will be the scapegoat and maybe Eli is part of the problem, who the hell knows anymore. Anyone who thinks they know everything wrong here is fooling themselves. I just know that running 11 personnel 95% of the time when it hasn't worked 95% of the time is the very definition of insanity--ironically McAdoo said this very thing. I've never lost so much faith in such a short time with this franchise.

Thank Jerry Reese for that.

8. Giants vs. the world mentality. If Coach McAdoo has any leadership ability at all he can use all the negative pub to drive this team to give their best effort. Will we quit? I don't think so. We have quality, high character guys on the roster, not a bunch of quitters.

9. Skip Bayless thinks the Giants will lose. You want to start agreeing with that guy? 'Nuff said.

10. BBI preseason picks. Who had the Eagles as clearly better than the Giants in the preseason? Were we all wrong then? If so, could the herd be wrong now? Absolutely! Statement game coming!!!!

I read an article on CBS SPorts website about how the Giants D would be trouble for Wentz and before they got into the actually reasoning, it seemed the writer stated way too often and in slightly different terms that this was a definite Giants los and and easy eagles victory. It had all this while showing a bunch of picks Wentz ALMOST through in the last two games.

I'm thinking the Eagles are going to be way too confident, the defense gets a few turn overs and the offense uses a workable scheme for them ie two tight ends, three tight ends (lol), screens, draws, the Statue of Liberty play or the annexation of puerto rico, WHATEVER, they need too. Hell the same offense some how scored 28 points against the Eagles last year...I'm grasp at straws but thats what fans do right?

Believe it and it will happen!

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but if the first offensive play is Perkins up the middle for no gain be prepared for a long afternoon.

You just KNOW that's what it's gonna be...I'd put money on it!

In comment 13610974 Model4001 said:

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In comment 13610716 Gman11 said: Quote: but if the first offensive play is Perkins up the middle for no gain be prepared for a long afternoon. You just KNOW that's what it's gonna be...I'd put money on it!

you can bet on that

I could see it with nothing other than a little luck. The Giants have had ridiculous penalties and turnovers at the most inopportune times over the last two weeks. We have started with some of the worst field position I have ever seen.

Get a few breaks and have a short field for once and some good things might happen.

we can. JPP says this is a team of pride and character. We do have tremendous talent. I heard a fool today say he would not play OBJ on his fantasy team. That is the last straw. As a Giant fan, this can not be tolerated. Even though I read many fair weather fans ceding this game to the Aigs, I refuse to join. If you are just a fair weather booster, go cheer for America's (so-called), team. Ugh. Go Flowers, we believe in you, go Perkins, you can do it, so glad to have you Marshall, no more gimp, OBJ, yards after catch, Shepard, Vereen, Engram, Elliott. Get rough guys, this is football.

I think we are winning this game this weekend or at least putting on a much stronger showing. Think Giants 35 and Eagles 27, with a pick 6 for the giants on defense and a turnaround game for the offense.

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In comment 13611116 oldog said:

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we can. JPP says this is a team of pride and character. We do have tremendous talent. I heard a fool today say he would not play OBJ on his fantasy team. That is the last straw. As a Giant fan, this can not be tolerated. Even though I read many fair weather fans ceding this game to the Aigs, I refuse to join. If you are just a fair weather booster, go cheer for America's (so-called), team. Ugh. Go Flowers, we believe in you, go Perkins, you can do it, so glad to have you Marshall, no more gimp, OBJ, yards after catch, Shepard, Vereen, Engram, Elliott. Get rough guys, this is football.

I like your style old dog - I'm with you and behind these players all the way. Kick some Eagle ass!

hate going to work the day after a Giants loss to the Eagles.

Twice since 2009, 2011 was a nice impressive win there, but 2013 Vick got hurt and we beat Matt Barkley on 5 josh brown field goals. The Giants always seem to struggle at the Linc especially the past 3 seasons,

We have no chance. This team wins maybe 5 games. Enjoy Eli and MacAdoo and Jerry. I think they all go after this year.

In comment 13610843 Dan in the Springs said:

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9. Skip Bayless thinks the Giants will lose. You want to start agreeing with that guy?

Most powerful reason so far.

In comment 13610607 I Love Clams Casino said:

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PRO-BOWLERS! For a bunch of no-names and criminals. No Philly has a real D-Line - This may be one of the worst most humiliating losses to the Eagles that the Giants ever suffer, and given the recent history, that's pretty bad. This might be the sort of game that gets people fired from other organizations - Giants don't work that way, they wait until the season is over, but this may be the game that gets McAdoo fired.

Actually, this will be the game that gets Reese fired. McAdoo may go, too, but I think it depends on what he does during the remainder of the season in the way of adjusting the offensive lineup and modifying offensive schemes. If he demonstrates a willingness to experiment with players and offensive tactics, and its somewhat effective, ownership may be unwilling to turn the whole organization upside down simply because the O-line is an abomination and the team's running backs are devoid of talent.

I have a hard time imagining the giants scoring more than 10 points in this game.

In comment 13610612 family progtitioner said:

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the Giants will keep it close because it's the NFL and that's what happens when blowouts are expected.

I'm in this camp. But we lose it at the end in heart breaking fashion which may be more upsetting then a blow out.

in there home opener . When they see us on the calendar
they have a pool for defensive and special teams TD's .
There offense really steppup replacing the skill positions
If by some minor miracle we go down there and beat them it's
a season saver . Nobody goes to the playoffs with an 0-3
start . Another embarrassing loss Coaches and front office
should be on the hot seat so much promise yet we knew damn well we were very flawed and we actually regressed .

the same way we have lost the first two weeks. Poor OL play, can't get the D off the Field on 3rd down, poor running game. Eagles 27, Gmen 13

7 sacks for the eagles

In comment 13611288 bradshaw44 said:

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In comment 13610612 family progtitioner said: Quote: the Giants will keep it close because it's the NFL and that's what happens when blowouts are expected. I'm in this camp. But we lose it at the end in heart breaking fashion which may be more upsetting then a blow out.

Glad I went fishing today and listened to my own prediction. JFC