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fansince71 : 9/22/2017 12:50 pm
There is a lot of flatulence and LCD/ESPN type of talk on this board lately.

What team has done better lately?

The Eagles - they havnt won nuttin...

The Falcons, the Lions, the Cardinals?

Bills, Jets,

Certainly not the Cowboys, they have not done anything since the mid 90's...

The Redskins?

Phillip Rivers?

Dolphins? No SB's since days of Csonka

Given the history of the Vikes they have not won anything...

and on and on...

Even the Packers only won one and thats with all of the media kissing Aarons tuchas. Giants beat them when they were 15-1.

Only Pats and maybe Pitts...Although Ben R. would not have survived here in NY give all his women troubles.

Seattle on boarder but threw away a SB victory.

Colts were always way overrated.

49ers? They are the ones that wasted all of those extra draft picks a few years ago.

Your thoughts please.

I think the point  
crackerjack465 : 9/22/2017 12:56 pm : link
is that the Giants have had a great, long history. They are one of the best franchises in the NFL and Eli has had a great career.

But on paper, this is one of the most talented teams we've ever had and one significant weakness that has been glaring since 2010 still hasn't been resolved and it's severely limiting what could've been a very special season.
Forget about 40 years of history! Look at the past 5 years.  
Ivan15 : 9/22/2017 1:03 pm : link
Playoffs? Winning records? Total wins? Has the Giants been in the top 10 in any category?

The Giants ran off one HC because he could not sustain success. I am trying to give McAdoo a chance but the inability (by him and the FO) to make in-season adjustments is frustrating.

TC was stubborn in a lot of ways, but this guy is just maddening.
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arcarsenal : 9/22/2017 1:05 pm : link
This isn't any better than the fans that complain about every single thing every year.

When the team looks this bad, they deserve to get criticized.

I don't think winning a couple of Super Bowls suddenly means that nothing that happens years later should ever matter.

You can appreciate the franchise and be grateful for those years and still be unhappy with the way the team is playing 5 years later.
I might add to what arc said  
gidiefor : Mod : 9/22/2017 1:34 pm : link
if you are happy with the way the Giants played the last two games -- you may be on some serious meds
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Beezer : 9/22/2017 1:43 pm : link
In comment 13610874 arcarsenal said:
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This isn't any better than the fans that complain about every single thing every year.

When the team looks this bad, they deserve to get criticized.

I don't think winning a couple of Super Bowls suddenly means that nothing that happens years later should ever matter.

You can appreciate the franchise and be grateful for those years and still be unhappy with the way the team is playing 5 years later.


It's tough. But the point MAY be, at LEAST we have recent success, relatively, to ease our pain.

Which is different than many of the scenarios mentioned.
But....  
fansince71 : 9/22/2017 1:47 pm : link
Many think its a birthright to be winners each year. They will fix the line. Many have become obsessed with Flowers. Man, just relax. You are going to give yourself a stroke.

Do many of you have OBJ in your fantasy league? Is that the issue?
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arcarsenal : 9/22/2017 1:49 pm : link
I don't really understand what you're proposing... what's the official grace period here until we're allowed to voice frustrations again?

What we've seen through 2 games this year has been fucking EMBARRASSING.

It's one thing to be rebuilding and deal with those bumps and bruises - but this was billed as a team that was supposed to contend. They won 11 games last year and were supposed to build off it.

They look terrible. But we can't say anything about it since they won the Super Bowl 5 years ago?

Alright.
Besides  
fansince71 : 9/22/2017 1:49 pm : link
All you ESPN/LCD fans, you have nothing to worry about. Suzy Kolber can always move in with Joe Namath.
Winners?  
gidiefor : Mod : 9/22/2017 1:50 pm : link
I just want to enjoy the game dude -- did you find either of the last two games enjoyable to watch?
Your threads are awful.  
Brown Recluse : 9/22/2017 1:52 pm : link
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RE: Winners?  
Motley Two : 9/22/2017 1:54 pm : link
In comment 13610920 gidiefor said:
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I just want to enjoy the game dude -- did you find either of the last two games enjoyable to watch?



Agree. This is my biggest problem and having to stay up for night games didn't help either.
Plus you want a team to be better than the previous  
superspynyg : 9/22/2017 1:59 pm : link
Season not worse. This team is terrible and all the coaching staff can do is use Eli as a scape goat instead of trying t fix the problem.
RE: I think the point  
NYBEN1963 : 9/22/2017 2:39 pm : link
In comment 13610860 crackerjack465 said:
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is that the Giants have had a great, long history. They are one of the best franchises in the NFL and Eli has had a great career.

But on paper, this is one of the most talented teams we've ever had and one significant weakness that has been glaring since 2010 still hasn't been resolved and it's severely limiting what could've been a very special season.


The season still can be special..the only thing this team is guaranteed not to do is go 15-1.Other than that they can go 0-16 or they could go 14-2,as you said there is a lot of talent on this team and sooner or later it is going to rise up let's hope it starts this weekend.
Having been weaned as a fan in the wilderness years,  
81_Great_Dane : 9/22/2017 5:50 pm : link
more or less 1970 onward, I have a different gauge than a lot of younger fans.

Remember, they didn't make the playoffs for 16 years, 1964-1980. My first decade as a fan, the team was a joke. They almost never had a winning record or even a 500 record. They'd occasionally seem to turn up a player (John Hicks!) and then he'd implode. Even when they started to turn the corner under Perkins, things were uneven. Parcells nearly got himself fired. Fortunately Howard Schnellenberger wasn't available.

But then I got to see them in five Super Bowls and win four, including one of the great upsets in NFL history. I gotta tellya, having been through the bad made me appreciate the good.

So the three crummy seasons that ended TC's run, bad as they were, seem pretty endurable to me. The Giants weren't 2-14. I've seen 2 and 3-win seasons, and this ain't that. The crummy loss in Green Bay last year? At least it was a playoff loss. It's not that this crummy football is okay, it's that I've seen worse. A LOT worse.

I've been a fan since 68  
gmen4ever : 9/22/2017 7:46 pm : link
Yet this coach, OL and our refusal to fix the glaring holes we have including poor play calling, is really pissing me off.
I want to see the Giants make the playoffs. Fan since 1956.  
joe48 : 9/22/2017 11:18 pm : link
We have only been to the playoffs once since 2011. I blame Mara more than anyone because he refuses to make changes in the organization. 'Some are long overdue. He must be too busy counting his money. He has become a lousy owner who accepts mediocrity.
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