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Landon Collins

BigBlueJ : 9/23/2017 9:42 am
One of the great attributes he displayed last year wa his ability to get us off the field on third down. Where is this kid?
This ought to be good,  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 9/23/2017 9:57 am : link
Let's pick on arguably our best overall player.....
Possibly the dumbest thread  
Tuckrule : 9/23/2017 10:07 am : link
I've ever seen on bbi and I been on this board since 2005.
Yeah Landon Collins is the problem  
Jay on the Island : 9/23/2017 10:24 am : link
FFS.
trade him  
gm7b5 : 9/23/2017 10:26 am : link
while he still has value?!? (:
RE: This ought to be good,  
BigBlueJ : 9/23/2017 11:02 am : link
In comment 13611425 Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) said:
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Let's pick on arguably our best overall player.....


I see a guy not stepping up.
I'm pretty sure Landon wasn't the only player  
jgambrosio : 9/23/2017 11:04 am : link
on the field for third down both this year and last year... it's 11 guys out there, and he's been doing just fine so far
You know  
blueblood'11 : 9/23/2017 11:12 am : link
He might on to something there. Then again he might be on something. Pass the hash pipe please I want to smoke some of it so I can hallucinate too.
Wow  
annexOPR : 9/23/2017 11:36 am : link
This all starts with the OL

You don't sustain drives, continue to go 3 and out or turn the ball over, eventually the defense is going to suffer

If this defense wasn't so good week 1 would've been a 30+ point blowout.

RE: RE: This ought to be good,  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/23/2017 11:36 am : link
In comment 13611466 BigBlueJ said:
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In comment 13611425 Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) said:


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Let's pick on arguably our best overall player.....



I see a guy not stepping up.

I see a guy who is probably not going to last much longer on this board.
Makes me embarrassed to share fandom  
UConn4523 : 9/23/2017 11:52 am : link
with some people. Top notch thread.
Top notch thread  
blueblood'11 : 9/23/2017 12:00 pm : link
How is Landon Collins the problem.
Do you think it might be because of this  
Kevin(formerly Tiki4Six) : 9/23/2017 12:35 pm : link
Offense ?? Spags cannot take any chances what so ever because there is no confidence that this offense will score any points. How about they try to play from ahead for once ?
Has LC made any big plays this season?  
trueblueinpw : 9/23/2017 1:05 pm : link
I don’t think OP is suggesting that LC is a problem or the reason for 0-2 start but Collins went into the season with a lot of great expectations.
I apologize Collins  
Rflairr : 9/23/2017 1:10 pm : link
Can’t do everyone’s job and his
I'm not an Xs and Os guy  
81_Great_Dane : 9/23/2017 3:11 pm : link
but I imagine -- and it's only my imagination at this point -- that if you're an opposing offense, one of the first things in your game plan is to contain Landon Collins and keep him from ruining your game.

But you have limited resources, and if you devote resources to neutralizing Collins, that should open opportunities for other guys.

Collins may not be personally responsible for the lack of 3-and-outs, but collectively, the D hasn't really lived up to its pre-season press clippings. They haven't given up a lot of points, but they haven't dominated, and they were supposed to be a dominant defense.
I think the OP might have worded it differently  
pivo : 9/23/2017 3:23 pm : link
But, having watched both games live and almost entirely in slo-mo via GamePass (yeah, lots of time on my hands...) it was something that stuck in my mind. Just didn't see LC as much at the point of attack.

Not that LC has regressed - not at all - but rather possibly NFL teams are learning to scheme around him.

Is this at all possible, or probable? The guy is so good it makes sense that opponents will target him for work-arounds. Anybody else get that same sense (that it was bound to happen, or that it is happening)?

I realize that the sample size is way too small at this point, so I'm content to wait & see...just not sure that the OP's eyes were deceiving him.

I'll pay closer attention against the Eagles & see if anything comes up scheme-wise.
He makes a great point  
superspynyg : 9/23/2017 3:24 pm : link
Afterv2 games Collins should have 6 ints and 3 td's.
LC's Twitter war with Ebron  
SHO'NUFF : 9/23/2017 3:34 pm : link
was mildly entertaining.
Why the hell does anyone  
Montreal Man : 9/23/2017 5:09 pm : link
dignify such a stupid thread with a response? Don't the rest of us have any pride? :)
Piling on  
Josh in MD : 9/23/2017 6:20 pm : link
One of the less lovely things about BBI is the gratuitous abuse that gets hurled at posters. Perhaps the OP should have been put his question in a more nuanced way. But for more than 20 people, one after another, to demean him should be a 15 yard penalty. The OP is not the reason the Giants are losing.
He might have said: "Last season it seemed that LC was flying all over the field make play after play and keying a defense that was very good. This season, he seems less in evidence. Is it just too small a sample size after only 2 games? Or is there something different about his play or the schemes?"
That would have been a perfectly reasonable question worthy of thoughtful responses not the pointless invective to which he was subjected.
Collins  
Craigg619 : 9/23/2017 7:45 pm : link
Collins has been all over the field. Come on man. The guy is a stud.
RE: Possibly the dumbest thread  
Jimmy Googs : 9/23/2017 8:04 pm : link
In comment 13611434 Tuckrule said:
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I've ever seen on bbi and I been on this board since 2005.


Yeah, bad thread but not even close to dumbest in past 12 mos...
RE: Piling on  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/23/2017 8:22 pm : link
In comment 13611820 Josh in MD said:
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One of the less lovely things about BBI is the gratuitous abuse that gets hurled at posters. Perhaps the OP should have been put his question in a more nuanced way. But for more than 20 people, one after another, to demean him should be a 15 yard penalty. The OP is not the reason the Giants are losing.
He might have said: "Last season it seemed that LC was flying all over the field make play after play and keying a defense that was very good. This season, he seems less in evidence. Is it just too small a sample size after only 2 games? Or is there something different about his play or the schemes?"
That would have been a perfectly reasonable question worthy of thoughtful responses not the pointless invective to which he was subjected.

That's a very fair and measured take. I'd invite you to look at the OP's follow-up post where he said "I see a guy not stepping up" as all the evidence you should need that he worded his original post exactly as he intended.
Gratuitous abuse?  
UConn4523 : 9/23/2017 9:06 pm : link
Good lord. It's a dumb thread, saying such isn't abuse. Grow thicker skin.
Fair point, Gator  
Josh in MD : 9/23/2017 10:11 pm : link
I confess I missed that follow-up. Still doesn't justify treating him with so many rebukes and such derisiveness.
One thing I will say about Collins  
RetroJint : 9/23/2017 10:53 pm : link
is that I don't like him playing back in a classic Cover 2 shell. Closer to the line . Closer to the action. He's a great player , one of the league's 10 best. But his play in deep coverage interests me the least. They'll need a big nickel tomorrow because Philadelphia uses a lot of tight formations with multiple TEs & a big wide receiver so I should get my wish .
RE: One thing I will say about Collins  
Gatorade Dunk : 9/23/2017 11:04 pm : link
In comment 13612021 RetroJint said:
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is that I don't like him playing back in a classic Cover 2 shell. Closer to the line . Closer to the action. He's a great player , one of the league's 10 best. But his play in deep coverage interests me the least. They'll need a big nickel tomorrow because Philadelphia uses a lot of tight formations with multiple TEs & a big wide receiver so I should get my wish .

From your lips to God's ears, Retro. We'll need him to neutralize Ertz if we're going to have any chance. Getting Keenan Robinson back should help in that regard as well.
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